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User: MICHAEL BOTTEN
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Number: 126
Date: 21 Sep 91 16:05:13
From: Dennis Lafontaine
To: Eric Kaljumagi
Subject: IBM BOOT
Area: AtariSt
Depending on what IBM/dos your friend is running,he can just boot up his
system and then stick your disk in and do a DIR. Also,does the latest DC
FORMAT also scramble the files when it writes the boot sector. 3.01 I
believe is the latest,and it has a seperate function to write the boot.
You probably already know the last resort,just copt the files to a
correctly formatted/boot sectored disk.
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Number: 127
Date: 21 Sep 91 16:26:34
From: Richard Proctor
To: Jim Kung
Subject: Re: Gfa 3.5e
Area: AtariSt
Where does one get this Flash 2.0 from Austrailia? Is it commercial or is
it shareware?
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Number: 128
Date: 22 Sep 91 00:29:37
From: Richard Proctor
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Re: tos 1.02
Area: AtariSt
TS> The Mega STe computers use TOS 2.5, not 1.06 or 1.62. (Not quite
TS> sure about 2.5 exactly - but I know it is at least 2.x.)
Ok, well with all these versions and the mix up's on how Atari decided
to write the version numbers, I am confused!! I thought the 2.5 was on
the TT..
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Number: 129
Date: 22 Sep 91 00:31:46
From: Richard Proctor
To: Ron Hunter
Subject: Re: Auto Progams To Run With TOS 1.06 an
Area: AtariSt
Well this Tos takes parameters seems to be more than just a
incompatability problem. I call it more of a bug since it just doesn't
take parameters at all like it should be. Even the doc's in the book tell
you that you will get a window allowing you to enter parameters into it to
pass to another program. They even show you a picture.
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Number: 130
Date: 21 Sep 91 18:41:42
From: Chuck Aude
To: Nick Hard
Subject: Re: stlockbaud
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <19 Sep 91 09:11:04>, Nick Hard of (1:209/777) writes:
NH> Hey Chuck!
NH>
NH> Removed STLOCKBAUD from my config, and it did the trick.. What I cant
Glad I could help!
NH> figure out is, why it always worked fine, then all of a sudden.. BOOM!
I know I can't figure that one out either, but I figure now that it works,
I won't mess with it. Later......
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Number: 131
Date: 21 Sep 91 11:54:00
From: Bill Scull
To: Steve Barnes
Subject: RE: GFA 3.5E
Area: AtariSt
In reply to:
SB> I'm working on a call-back verifier at the moment, which unfortunate
SB>is pretty much straight line programming. In fact, I let out the first
SB>release version last night (FREQ: NOTARY), it incorporates the best
SB>features of Eagle Verifier (PCBoard) and CALLMAX (Maximus). To the best
Will this work with all the BBS programs that are out there?
SB>P.S. Does anybody know what happened to Mark Asbell system?
He took the board down.
:DeLuxe2 1.12 #9314 *
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Number: 132
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:43:26
From: Ed June
To: Steve Barnes
Subject: Re: GFA 3.5E
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <Sep 19 11:02>, Steve Barnes (1:224/180@fidonet.org)
writes:
SB> P.S. Does anybody know what happened to Mark Asbell system?
As I've have said, he retired<must be nice!>from the Army & is lookin' for
a job, and has<had?, gee I haven't called in sooo long>an answering machine
at the old #.
I find myself lookin' for a job too, I've been laid-off due to no contracts
coming in, the defense contractor buisness is VERY slow & VERY competitive
right now...
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Number: 133
Date: 22 Sep 91 12:38:38
From: Michael Harvey
To: Jimmy Davis
Subject: Info-1, OKC
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <20 Sep 91 10:34:18>, Jimmy Davis of (1:385/6) writes:
JD> Erick, I hear that Info-1 has stopped selling ATARI hardware and
JD> has their remaining ATARI software on closeout! If this is true,
JD> has anyone in OKC expressed an interest in selling ST hardware and
JD> software? Is there any place else to go in Oklahoma for us ATARI
JD> users?
JD> ** MS-DOS, just say NO! ** (as they pry my hands off my ST...)
I know they had alot of games, ect on clearance type sale up there at Info
1 during the month of August when I was passing thru and stopped to see
what they had in stock.. They did have Staceys and 1040STE's in stock, but
on clearance sale, but there prices were still hight I thought.. If nobody
carries Atari Stuff there other than Info 1 which might be quiting selling
Atari, there's two Atari dealers in in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of
Texas.. It's a drive, but beats no support at all.
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Number: 134
Date: 20 Sep 91 19:15:22
From: Paul Griffith
To: Mike Kelley
Subject: Hard Drive
Area: AtariSt
I would be interested in your hard drive. My phone is 503-942-7341
(there is a n answering machine) if no one is home. I know that this
message was not addressed to me, but I'll buy the HD.
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Number: 135
Date: 20 Sep 91 21:41:21
From: David Burns
To: Dennis Lafontaine
Subject: Re: SC1224 Monitor
Area: AtariSt
So, the Gold Star monitors are bad? How do you tell which kind of SC1224
you have?
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Number: 136
Date: 22 Sep 91 10:09:10
From: Terry May
To: Mason Taube
Subject: Re: Switching Formats
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <21 Sep 91 11:04:00>, Mason Taube of (1:269/201) writes:
MT> What mailer is The Zoo using that it has EMSI?
Newest BinkleyTerm uses EMSI. If you're interested in BETA TESTING
(it's not finished yet), latest filename is BT241AB9.LZH on my board. Use
only if you're interested in beta testing and only if you're willing to
assume all risk associated with same.
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Number: 137
Date: 21 Sep 91 11:26:45
From: Robert Pecora
To: All
Subject: For Sale
Area: AtariSt
******************** FOR SALE ******************
Complete Desktop Publishing System
includes:
Atari Mega ST2 Computer - 2 megs of memory
30 Megabyte hard drive
NEC Multisync Monitor
Panasonic Laser Printer - KXP4450 -1.5 megs of memory
Pagestream Desktop Publishing Software - Version 2.1 (new)
OmniRes monitor switchbox
other misc. software included...
PRICE: $2,500 FIRM
Call Robert at (615)528-7116
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Number: 138
Date: 21 Sep 91 12:59:40
From: Richard Guadagno
To: All
Subject: Bad Feed?
Area: AtariSt
NOTICE:
If you replied to or sent a message to a user on this BBS and we/he/she
has not answered back it is because we never received the messages.
Somplace along my EchoFeed I lost almost 100 messages and have no way of
getting them back.
'
I did find some of these messages on another bbs and captured them and
sent each user who received a message a copy of the capture.
If you do not receive a reply to your question or post please send it
again. This problem happens at least once a month. So be patient please.
We here at the Aces High BBS are not ignoring you, it is just we are
not getting every message sent through this echo.
Richard Guadagno - SysOp of the Aces High BBS
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Number: 139
Date: 21 Sep 91 15:52:20
From: Richard Guadagno
To: Jim Jackson
Subject: OPUS2QB2.LZH
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <19 Sep 91 16:48:18 >, Jim Jackson of (1:124/3114) writes:
JJ> RG> @ 1:321/370 NetMailed me a program he wrote called OPUS2QB.TOS that
JJ> does
JJ> RG> exactly what I want. The only problem with his program (I still
have
JJ> to
JJ> RG> contact him about it) is someplace in the program is HARD CODED to
JJ> look
JJ>
JJ> Can you set this program up for FREQing...... I haven't been
able
JJ> to connect with Bill's board.......
It is available under the name above. I have a 2400 v.42bis modem, for
other people who might be interested. By the way by the time you read
this... I already sent it to you!!
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Number: 140
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:05:34
From: Ken Hurd
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Re: You Can't Win In this world!
Area: AtariSt
What are you gonna do? Everybody out to make a buck!, If they can't get
from you when your not looking, they'll get it from you when you need
somtin!
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Number: 141
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:06:46
From: Ken Hurd
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Tos 1.02
Area: AtariSt
I've got a 520 with no ram sitting in the closet. As soon as JDR
Microdevices gets around to shipping me out the chips, I'll fix it and sell
it or give it to my son for his own use.
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Number: 142
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:08:02
From: Ken Hurd
To: Mike Kelley
Subject: Re: ATARI 800 XL
Area: AtariSt
Forget about the 800 xl, That machine is dead and has been since 85' I
still think it's a hell of a machine! I owned 3 of them and got many hours
of delight out of them.
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Number: 143
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:13:04
From: Ken Hurd
To: Dennis Lafontaine
Subject: Re: 3.5 stability
Area: AtariSt
I remember when I had two single sided drives, I had borrowed some
commercial disks and after using them I discovered that I was losing data
and getting a clicking noise from the drive. I took the drives apart and
discovered that the head was so dirty that conventional cleaning wouldn't
cut it, and that from sliding the disks in and out I had developed a lot of
dirt on the parts of the drive that connected with the disk. I carefully
cleaned it all up and it stopped clickiong and ruining my data.
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Number: 144
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:15:14
From: Ken Hurd
To: Erick Tadefa
Subject: re: ATARI 800 XL
Area: AtariSt
I discovered a place in my town that was selling an Atari 65xe. This was
of course a thrift shop and you just couldn't miss the box in the front
window. So I guess it does pay to go look around.
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Number: 145
Date: 21 Sep 91 20:34:00
From: Richard Guadagno
To: Kevin Tessner
Subject: Hard Drive Games
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <18 Sep 91 10:39:18 >, Kevin Tessner of (1:221/189) writes:
KT> re: You don't miss the quit function, you just enjoy the speed.
KT>
KT> True, the speed of a HD'able game is quite nice, and if you're used to
the
KT> running games off of floppy, its quite a difference and I can see how a
KT> quit function can be easily missed... I spend half of my computing
time
KT> on my PC though, where all the new games quit seemlessly to Dos and let
KT> you keep running without a reboot, so the lack of a quit function on
the
KT> newer ST HD'able games is quite an annoyance to me.
KT>
KT> Kevin
KT>
KT> ... Just plain spoiled I geuss ...
Spoiled? I do not know about that, you are just used to doing things
that way. Me on the other hand do not miss it since I never switched from
a game to an application... Oh no I just lied! I did go from Test Drive ][
to Flash once, using HotWire!
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Number: 146
Date: 21 Sep 91 20:40:04
From: Richard Guadagno
To: Ron Hunter
Subject: Re:Upgrades
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <19 Sep 91 12:48:00 >, Ron Hunter of (1:130/25) writes:
RH> Well, I called the local dealer and told him to order STalker 3.0 for
me.
RH> I just HATE to do upgrades. I can't STAND to send money off into the
RH> 'wild blue yonder' and then wait, and wait, and wait. Even doing
RH> business with a reputable company like Gribnif scares me. Would rather
RH> just pay the extra. If my M/C hadn't melted from overuse, I might just
RH> give them my number, and chance mailing the disk, but that scares me
too.
RH> Worse, I now need to upgrade MultiDesk....
RH> Sigh.
I have to upgrade STalker, MultiDesk, UIS III, STeno (when the new one
with the dictionary is relesed), GramSlam, and my BBS software!
The thing that bothers me about upgrades is mailing the original disk.
I still have not received my FLASH disk back from Antic and I mailed that
to them two years ago, good thing I made a backup!!
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Number: 147
Date: 21 Sep 91 22:35:00
From: Ernie Higginson
To: Robert Guadagno
Subject: Ultrascript for sale!
Area: AtariSt
Sorry I can't take you up on the offer. I just ordered it from Toad. Next
time.
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Number: 148
Date: 22 Sep 91 04:05:23
From: Carl Thornton
To: Ron Hunter
Subject: Re: Atari
Area: AtariSt
RH> Don't blame the ST for inadequate software. Believe me, the
RH> hardware is MORE than adequate to handle any reasonable number of
RH> 2400 baud lines.
RH> If an IBM XT can serve 16, then you KNOW the ST can handle at least a
RH> 100!
Now I definantly get a kick out of that... Inadequate software, which
software is adequate.. If the ST can do 4 - 2400 lines, which software
will get it there, without the waitstates?? XT can serve 16 so the ST can
do 100, comenow, is there hardware to support that information?? I think
Atari makes the biggest statement on just how good the ST runs a BBS, they
have 1 for each line, and for some dumb reason they use Atari modems??
But you also have to figure, the XT probably had the hardware to run
multipule lines, long before anyone thought about it for the ST.. Now if
the hardware and software were available, coupled with a screaming HD, and
some fast cache, and adequate ram to handle different buffers for each
user, sure it could work.. Also, if the ST was pumped to 16Mhz, it'd sure
look a bit nicer, especially with the faster modem users..
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Number: 149
Date: 21 Sep 91 13:31:55
From: Ed Krimen
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Re: Spectre Gcr Help
Area: AtariSt
> EK@9> > since I know of a place where the LPS 105s can be had for $340
> EK@9> EK@9> I say, don't hestitate and get one now. Everyone
> recommends the EK@9> ICD, EK@9> Dave Small, Doug Wheeler. They're
> exceptional drives.
> I've since found what appears to be a better deal. Maxtor 7120S,
> 124MB, 15ms access time (before you figure in the on-board cache), 3
> 1/2" 1" high, for $385. Apparently these are very reliable and are
> blazingly fast. (the average access time is better than the
> Quantum's, which is really 17ms - the 11ms or 9ms figures are based on
> benchmarks fooled by the internal cache which the Quantum has, as does
> the Maxtor.)
That does indeed sound like a great deal. Who's selling it for that
price?
>
> EK@9> I don't get as good a transfer rate as I expected. I only (heh
> EK@9> 'only') average 1000 K/sec when I expect around 1200. Anyone kn
> EK@9> the Advantage host adapters get better transfer rates? (I have
> EK@9> old EK@9> ICD adapter.) Maybe you'd better not tell me; I'd
> want one then EK@9> Aw, tell me anyway.
> I really don't know. I have an interesting host adapter - it
> ...
> incarnation of the ICD host adapter.) At any rate, I wouldn't be able
> to tell you if it was faster or not unless you shipped me your drive
> mechanism and I could get better rates off of it. Want to try it?
> <g>
Hey, that sounds like a great idea!! Let's do it.
Y' know, I'm also looking for a bridge to buy. Do you know where I
could get a good one? :^)
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Number: 150
Date: 21 Sep 91 13:44:36
From: Ed Krimen
To: Richard Proctor
Subject: Re: Auto Progams To Run Wi
Area: AtariSt
> If you upgrade to the 2.0x ROMS, doesn't that make some of the other
> ST software incompatable? Yea/No?
Rich, I just upgraded to a MegaSTE with TOS 2.05. All the programs that
I used on my STE work perfectly, and faster because of the MegaSTEs
increased CPU speed and cache. Before that, I had a 1040ST and I may
have had a few problems with some programs when I upgraded to an STE,
but none really that I can remember. The thing is, if the program is
supported well and is written without breaking any programming rules, it
will work fine. I just bought CyberSculpt, a 1988/89 Antic program for
creating .3D2 CAD objects, and it works very nicely on my MegaSTE.
Programs that work are the usually the rule, not the exception.
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Number: 151
Date: 21 Sep 91 13:48:03
From: Ed Krimen
To: Richard Proctor
Subject: Re: Track Ste
Area: AtariSt
> Does anyone have Track STe??
Yeah, I do. You need an STE (or MegaSTE) to run it. If you just have
an ST, you need TRACKST. I have both versions. (It's an excellent
Noisetracker module player, for those who didn't know.)
If you want to send me a disk with a self-addressed, stamped envelope,
I'll copy it and some great mods for you. My address is 585 Spruce St.,
San Francisco, CA 94118.
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Number: 152
Date: 21 Sep 91 13:53:37
From: Ed Krimen
To: Gary Amey
Subject: Re: St/alker
Area: AtariSt
> In a message of <16 Sep 91 09:23:00>, Ron Hunter of (1:130/25) writes:
>
> RH> STAlker 3.0 was released at the Glendale show this weekend. First
> RH> feedback has been ALL positive. I have hopes, but still not ready
> to RH> send in my $20....
>
>
> Thats ok..... I did send In my $20.00 back in july when the press
> release came out saying it would be out at the end of july, and that
> it was first come first serve...... Here it is almost the end of
> september and I still don't have my upgrade but I could have bought
> the program at the show.... I wonder how much longer it will take....
I was wondering too, since I was also at the Glendale show. I left a
message last night for Rick Flashman asking him how much longer it'll
be. I thought the rule :^) was that people who upgrade get first dibs.s
I'll let you know what he says. If you don't hear anything from me on
the subject, remind me in a few days.
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Number: 153
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:29:00
From: Dick Grable
To: Steve Barnes
Subject: RE: GFA 3.5E
Area: AtariSt
SB> FREQList (If you really want to get it, you can file request it
Have you thought about modifying FREQLIST for Turbo II?? Just a couple
more files to modify and Turbo I (and associated files) is history.
* -- Atari computers, inexpensive and fun to boot
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Number: 154
Date: 21 Sep 91 24:42:13
From: Chuck Zwicky
To: Larry Greene
Subject: ST disk drive problem
Area: AtariSt
> Larry Greene at Node 8966/9 writes;
> Do you have any problem with your drive detecting disk changes? I had to
> run a jumper from pin 2 to pin 28 in order for disk changes to be
properly
> detected. Don't know why that worked but I had a heck of a time till I
> found the fix on Genie from folks who had the same problem
I have had a problem with my 1040STe not detecting disk changes,
it has been driving me NUTS! Is there really a solution?!!!?!
The symptom is that when I change disks, the directory comes up
with garbled characters especially when the previous access was
from within a folder (the system thinks it is still in there).
Often I have to click on drive "B" to force a re-read of the FAT.
HELP! HELP! HELP!
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Number: 155
Date: 21 Sep 91 21:46:12
From: Jason Buchanan
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Icdboot
Area: AtariSt
Hi Tim!
In a msg of <18 Sep 91>, Tim Seufert writes to Larry Davis:
LD>> In a previous message I mentioned that ICD had sent me a new versi
LD>> of their booter program. I mistakenly called that version 3.4.2. I
LD>> 5.4.2
> What features over 5.3.0 does 5.4.2 have?
Well, if the difference is like 5.3.0 and 5.3.1, you could assume that
there would be just a small amount of difference, but if they're going to
go from 5.3.0 to 5.4.2, don't you think there'd be a LOT of difference?
5.4.2. Fixes a lot of bugs, speeds up performance, etc....
Jason
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Number: 156
Date: 22 Sep 91 11:20:00
From: Erik Williams
To: Ron Hunter
Subject: RE: CD ROM
Area: AtariSt
Only if the data is contiguous on the CD-ROM, and you can't forget the
seek time to get to the data on the CD-ROM (which is horrendously slow
compared to a hard disk). If the CD-ROM is fragmented, then you will
be lucky if you hit 10 frames/sec...
* Happiness is Turbo C not barfing on your code!
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Number: 157
Date: 22 Sep 91 11:27:00
From: Erik Williams
To: Ron Hunter
Subject: RE: RE: RE: 1040STE 4 MEG
Area: AtariSt
One of the main reasons that they do so much DASD access on the
mainframe is the possibility of a crash. Usually, if the mainframe
goes tits-up, the data on the disk platters is the most up-to-date
possible, which makes it easier to recover and continue when the
mainframe comes back up.
The Mac is a classic example of "keep it in RAM and pray for no
crashes". If you crash the machine and you have made changes to the
disks, your changes go down the toilet!
* UCF CS Girls: "Access to fileserver, DENIED!"
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Number: 158
Date: 22 Sep 91 09:29:21
From: Terrence Redding
To: Jason Buchanan
Subject: Re:Lawton OK.
Area: AtariSt
Kent, Kent, Jason a neighbor. Where do you live?
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Number: 159
Date: 22 Sep 91 11:45:00
From: Douglas Dirks
To: Ed Krimen
Subject: Re: Ste Dma Chip
Area: AtariSt
<E9>As Terry May and others have explained there is NO TOS 1.062
<E9>and TOS
<E9>1.62 is not to be called that. It's TOS 1.62 because that's
<E9>the value
<E9>that is returned when the ROMs are read.
<E9>Geez, what kind of proof do you want? A signed affidavit
<E9>from Sam
<E9>Tramiel?! Take my word for it: there's no TOS 1.062; that
<E9>value
<E9>wouldn't fit in the ROMs.
<E9>
Okay, Okay !!!!! You don't have to bite my head off!!!
The proof I was looking for was that:
- someone got it officially from Atari
- it was read in a major publication
- not something like ... I heard it from my friend's second cousin that
...
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Number: 160
Date: 22 Sep 91 21:22:16
From: Vaclav Vyvoda
To: Jason Buchanan
Subject: 68000 vs 286
Area: AtariSt
Dont be comparing the 68000 to the 386. Compare your 386 to a 68030 and
then let us know how it did. If you want to compare something to the 68000
use the 286 or 8086 (since it was the first in line just like the 68000).
By the way the Intel line of chips (except for the 860) is going back in
the evolution chain!!!! I'm just waiting to see if the 586 will be
compatible with the 4004 or something like that...
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Number: 161
Date: 22 Sep 91 24:27:00
From: Steve Barnes
To: Timothy Roeder
Subject: FREQList
Area: AtariSt
In message 511/10/1078, Timothy Roeder writes:
> I'll try to get our FREQlist up and running so you can get it sometime n
> week.
Tim, didn't I read earlier that you were running ST-Keep? FREQList
will only work on Forem/Turbo systems as it generates the files
required for Binkley from the BBS's .DIR files. I suppose I could
make the data file format definable, but hey, its just a little
utility that gets the job done with a minumum of fuss. Come to think
of it, I DID supply the sources in the archive. You can change it
yourself :)
-Steve
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Number: 162
Date: 22 Sep 91 17:23:04
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: Mark Corona
Subject: PhaedoZap
Area: AtariSt
* Quoting a message originally from Mark Corona:
MC] You are grunging messages again.
MC]
MC] MC
Tell that to my hub.. I think he has bad sectors or something.
Annoying
as hell..
Jeff Mitchell
NeST Canada
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Number: 163
Date: 22 Sep 91 17:30:36
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: Steve Yelvington
Subject: Re: Atari Pd Word Processors
Area: AtariSt
* Quoting a message originally from Steve Yelvington:
SY] I don't think I'd put Origami in the uEMACS slot ... it's a C
SY] translation of a very different folding editor that was written in
SY] Pascal. You can make it look sort of like EMACS, but the parentage is
SY] quite different.
I hadn't known. The Origami default setup that I have appears to
be entirely uEmacs, plus a Gem frontend. I prefer GnueEmacs or
Gnome..although
Gnome seams to like to lockup before loading the file about 1 in 30 loads.
Not
enough to be annoying though.
Jeff Mitchell
NeST Canada
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Number: 164
Date: 22 Sep 91 11:31:36
From: Rik Spacek
To: David Pischke
Subject: HYPERLINK
Area: AtariSt
I'm forewarned now, but I'm STILL interested. If it only makes proper use
of available memory and doesn't waste all its time with disk access and
slow screen update routines, I'll be happy. R. Spacek
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Number: 165
Date: 22 Sep 91 14:07:59
From: Rik Spacek
To: Jim Kung
Subject: TOS 2.XX
Area: AtariSt
Jim mentioned "TOS 2.xx for regular STs and Megas." Is this TRUE? will
there be something called TOS two point such-and-such for the old
war-horses? I thought TOS 1.04 (1.4) was the ONLY upgrade for the pre-STE
machines. R.Spacek
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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Number: 166
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:54:00
From: David Pischke
To: Richard Proctor
Subject: RE: TOS 1.02
Area: AtariSt
RP> I can tell you this much, TOS 1.06 comes with 520STe's up to the
RP> Mega STe's.
The Mega STe comes with TOS 2.05. (Some early ones came with TOS
2.02.)
* Doughnut: The Pillsbury dough boy
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Number: 167
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:59:00
From: David Pischke
To: Douglas Dirks
Subject: TOS VERSION NOS.
Area: AtariSt
According to Atari:
TOS 1.4 ---> TOS 1.04
TOS 1.6 ---> TOS 1.06
TOS 1.62 ---> TOS 1.62 *not* TOS 1.062.
* "Bitter! I want BITTER!" --Tommy Sexton
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Number: 168
Date: 22 Sep 91 14:01:00
From: David Pischke
To: Larry Greene
Subject: RE: TOS 1.02
Area: AtariSt
LG> Yes it is still available and it is REAL fast.
LG> 3.0 is the latest version.
If it doesn't crash on you when you look at it.
* Coco Chanel: Chocolate Television
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Number: 169
Date: 22 Sep 91 14:02:00
From: David Pischke
To: Larry Greene
Subject: RE: SCREEN SAVERS
Area: AtariSt
LG> What I
LG> don't understand is if the system has 32k set aside for the screen,
LG> why can't a screen saver use THAT ram instead of another 32k
LG> thereby making the ram used for the screen 64k.
Because that 32K of screen RAM that the OS uses contains the image
currently on the screen. It's already in use.
* NO!!! Not Peter Mansbridge's lost hair!! AHHHH!
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Number: 170
Date: 22 Sep 91 14:08:00
From: David Pischke
To: Troy Cheek
Subject: RE: GFA 3.5E
Area: AtariSt
TC> Last I
TC> heard there was a postal workers strike and people were finding
TC> bags of mail at the bottom of some lake or another.
... and Public Servants strike, causing delays at customs.
TC> Heard anything about the strike? Down here, the local post office
TC> doesn't even know about it.
That's the universal thing about post offices. It doesn't matter what
country they're in. They all seem to be awful.
The Canada Post workers have stopped striking. The government forced a
mediator on them, so while the mediation continues, they've gone back
to work. The public servants have also gone back to work while they're
negotiating.
* NO!!! Not Peter Mansbridge's lost hair!! AHHHH!
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Number: 171
Date: 22 Sep 91 14:12:00
From: David Pischke
To: Paul Drake
Subject: ST VS. STE SCROLLING TECH
Area: AtariSt
PD> Thanks for that information! Isn't it amazing that it has taken
PD> Tramiel's Atari 6 years to introduce a scrolling capability that
PD> the Atari 800 had in 1981?!
Actually, the 400 and 800 had it in 1979.
PD> I think this additional scrolling ability in the STe is an even
PD> greater step than the 800XL was over the old 800. Remember the
PD> flood of incompatible programs that wouldn't run on the old 800? I
PD> fully expect to see the same thing happen to the old ST.
Doubtless. As more and more STe's are sold, the number of STes will
increase and the number of STs will decrease. Maybe in two years we
will start seeing more programs that fully use STe features. There are
already a few, but not enough.
* NO!!! Not Peter Mansbridge's lost hair!! AHHHH!
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Number: 172
Date: 22 Sep 91 11:40:00
From: David Pischke
To: Jeff Mitchell
Subject: TOS 1.02
Area: AtariSt
Quick ST -- any version -- does not speed up bit block transfers. At
all. The BLiTTER speeds up screen redraws by about 30%, but its main
purpose is to speed up bit block transfers -- and it does it very well.
Put the program Let 'em Fly in your AUTO folder. Try moving a flying
dialogue with the BLiTTER on. It glides across the screen smoothly.
Try moving a flying dialogue with the BLiTTER off. It jumps around the
screen sluggishly and slowly.
Now boot up your ST with Quick ST or Turbo ST -- any version --
installed. Try moving a flying dialogue. It jumps around the screen
sluggishly and slowly. With or without Quick ST, the dialogue moves
sluggishly. With the BLiTTER on, it moves lightning fast.
Even if you switch to 16MHz, the dialogue does not move as smoothly as
it does with the BLiTTER on.
* Hey Bob -- want to visit the Big O?
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Number: 173
Date: 21 Sep 91 18:56:02
From: Larry Russell
To: All
Subject: tos 2.?
Area: AtariSt
has anyone else seen the letter from atari saying they are going to release
tos 2 for the older machines? i was wondering what the improvement is and
what advantages it holds.
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Number: 174
Date: 21 Sep 91 23:52:22
From: Bill Jones
To: Jason Buchanan
Subject: Re: 9600 bps
Area: AtariSt
JB> tosfix2.prg? Never heard of it. Where can I get it?
TOS4FIX2.LZH and POOLFIX4.LZH are both available here or at The Rebel
(1:209/745), both as FREQ or download.
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Number: 175
Date: 22 Sep 91 12:23:39
From: Al Horton
To: Steven Scavone
Subject: Sozobon C
Area: AtariSt
Sozobon C is available from The Computer Dungeon P.O. Box 25011
Lansing,MI 48909 (517) 887-8741 if you can't find it from a BBS. They
deal in PD/Shareware programs, along with new & used software for the ST,
Lynx, and XL/XE.
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Number: 176
Date: 22 Sep 91 12:35:25
From: Al Horton
To: Jim Jackson
Subject: ST-Keep
Area: AtariSt
ST Keep is Shareware and is also available from The Computer Dungeon
P.O. Box 25011 Lansing, MI 48909 (517) 887-8741. They deal in
PD/Shareware programs, along with New & Used programs for the ST, Lynx, and
XL/XE.
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Number: 177
Date: 22 Sep 91 12:05:18
From: Al Horton
To: Bryan Stoll
Subject: Re: Atari
Area: AtariSt
Hi Bryan.
I agree that Atari Corp. leaves MUCH to be desired. The infamous "Mutha"
board and now the Mega 1 STe hard drive situation are the latest.
Many people believe that pirating is killing the ST; I disagree 100%.
Atari Corp. is killing the ST. The ST userbase is VERY small, and there is
just not enough profit to be made from a small userbase to warrant
software houses from developing and manufacturing software for the ST.
Until Atari Corp. mass produces, distributes, and advertises their line of
computers then the userbase will remain small and hence, no new software.
Sure, pirating hurts and takes away profits. But if the initial userbase
is small then there won't be the software to pirate to begin with.
Pirating hurts the ST, but Atari Corp. is its biggest downfall. Glendale
PROVED that there is a demand for hardware and software, and that there is
BIG bucks willing to be paid for it (a lot of vendors sold out the first
day, if not in the first couple of hours after the doors opened). Why
Atari refuses to see the demand and profit to made in the U.S. is beyond
me. I thought ST Reports was right when they said if Atari mass produced,
marketed, and advertised the STe and Mega STe; featured it as and
Educational Tool and Home Computer; and signed the deal with General
Electric to service Atari equipment World Wide, then the ST would really
take off and everyone would be happy: from the user with new equipment and
software to the T's with new profits.
But like I said, its kind of a downer talking about it since you or I
won't change a thing. Instead I just continue using my equipment and
enjoyin the new PD/Shareware programs, the magazines, the commercial
software, and talking with other ST users about enjoying the ST more.
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Number: 178
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:13:19
From: Mike Kelley
To: Jim Kung
Subject: Re: Curse
Area: AtariSt
That would be news to the folks at LucasFilm manning the phones. Any
idea who can take our money to ship a copy from the UK?
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Number: 179
Date: 22 Sep 91 10:13:00
From: Richard Proctor
To: David Pischke
Subject: TOS
Area: AtariSt
So do you install the ARCSHELL as an Application or as a GEM?
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Number: 180
Date: 22 Sep 91 10:15:05
From: Richard Proctor
To: Ed Krimen
Subject: Re: Tos
Area: AtariSt
When you setup a program as tos takes parameters, shouldn't you get the
dialog box asking for the parameters regardless of whether the program you
are installing was made for this type of thing?
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Number: 181
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:41:00
From: Jeff Leclair
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Re: atari tt/mega ste
Area: AtariSt
TS>RH> The only tests I have seen comparing the Mac and IBM head to head
TS>RH> Mac was faster in all but the write to disk tests, and the Mac was
TS>RH> SE, running at 8 mhz against 12 and 16 mhz PCs, and it STILL beat
TS>RH> them.
TS> Naturally, because a 68000 at 8MHz is at least as fast as a 286/386sx
TS> at 16MHz. 'Least that seems to be my experience.
It has to do with clock cycles... For example:
INTEL MOTO
INSTR CYCLES CYCLES
----- ------ ------
MUL 16 7
DIV 16 8
ROL 4 2
Etc... So, now, suppose I wrote an assembly program that was all
MUL's... Well, the 68000 running at 8 Mhz should be compatible with a
286 running at 16 Mhz. Of course, this is only an extreme example to
show how it could happen. Overall, the 68000 is twice as efficient in
code execution as the 286.
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Number: 182
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:43:00
From: Jeff Leclair
To: Tim Schultz
Subject: Re: Auto Progams To Run
Area: AtariSt
TS>That's exactly what I said, why would you WANT to use Software control
TS>(Xon/Xoff
Actually, if you're using a high speed modem, like the Dual Standard I'm
using, you don't have any choice. I could NOT get flow control to work
properly with software flow control. I *had* to use hardware flow
control. All is well now.
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Number: 183
Date: 22 Sep 91 13:45:00
From: Jeff Leclair
To: Jason Buchanan
Subject: Re: 9600 bps
Area: AtariSt
JB>> Could be that you need the tosfix2.prg and the poolfix.prg in your
JB>> auto folder to correct the high-speed cts-flow bug.
JB>tosfix2.prg? Never heard of it. Where can I get it?
It is available from the Atari support BBS in my tagline.
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Number: 184
Date: 22 Sep 91 16:42:00
From: Lindle Romero
To: Curt Fluegel
Subject: Re: re: hd recording on t
Area: AtariSt
*Quoting Curt Fluegel to Lindle Romero:
CF> I have 2.01 (i think thats right) I just got it about a month ago
CF> still using it on a color mono- drives you nutS) Curt,
You have the new version....I am still stuck with the old version of
Cubase. The new version lets you use a color monitor!?!? If it does.
.will have to see how much it is to upgrade (Already have my key.
..would just need the new disc).
Let me know when that new direct to disk program comes out. Would
much rather hear about it through you than some magazine (TOO MUCH
HYPE!).
Well I need to go & I'll chat at ya later!
Later Dude,
Lindle
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Number: 185
Date: 22 Sep 91 16:49:00
From: Lindle Romero
To: Larry Greene
Subject: Re: re: atari
Area: AtariSt
*Quoting Larry Green:
LG> I used Vanterm too! I liked many of it's features, especially th
LG> dialling. Whatever happend to the support board for it? Larry,
Was on the For Sale echo the other day and the Author of Vanterm had
posted a few messages. You could probably catch him there!! Hope this
helps.
Later On,
Lindle Romero
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Number: 186
Date: 22 Sep 91 15:36:12
From: Frans Keylard
To: Terry May
Subject: Re: screen savers
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <19 Sep 91 17:20:30>, Terry May of (1:209/745) writes:
TM> In a message of <15 Sep 91 03:54:56>, Larry Greene of (1:286/730.9)
TM> writes:
TM>
TM> LG> There is ALREADY ram dedicated to the screen as part of the OS
TM> (isn't
TM> LG> that what part of the 128k for system buffers goes to??) What I
don't
TM> LG> understand is if the system has 32k set aside for the screen, why
TM> can't a
TM> LG> screen saver use THAT ram instead of another 32k thereby making the
TM> ram
TM> LG> used for the screen 64k.
TM>
TM> Probably because the new blank screen is now taking up the 32k
used
TM> by OS. If you're going to use two screens, i.e., your original screen
TM> and your new blank screen, that's 2 x 32k. Of course, this doesn't
apply
TM> to color systems (which can simply adjust the palette), nor does it
apply
TM> to mono screen 'inverters'.
What about the screensaver inluded in macaccel3? It just inverts the screen
once in awhile and that probably doesn't take up 32k. I wish whoever
started this silly discussion would just get a ram-upgrade and be done with
it.
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Number: 187
Date: 22 Sep 91 15:39:18
From: Frans Keylard
To: -zz Top-
Subject: need
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <19 Sep 91 10:44:07>, -zz Top- of (1:135/107) writes:
-T> I need to make my St IBM compatible. Does anyone know of a good
-T> hardware
-T> modifier out there?
-T> later,
-T> -Zz Top-
How and why are you using your handle on FIDO?
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Number: 188
Date: 22 Sep 91 15:50:16
From: Frans Keylard
To: David Wills
Subject: Spec->gif
Area: AtariSt
In a message of <19 Sep 91 13:47:16>, David Wills of (1:322/360) writes:
DW> Know of any programs that will edit a GIF or Spectrum?
There is a gif to spectrum converter, and then edit it with Spectrum, duhh.
The gif converter is called DMJGIfF, look for it on the boards.
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Number: 189
Date: 22 Sep 91 23:03:00
From: Eric Kaljumagi
To: David Wills
Subject: log function
Area: AtariSt
I don't know too much about 68000 chip assembly language, but the ancient
way of computing the log was by experimentation using roughly the following
algorithm:
First, bound the log between a pair of integers using trial and error
Secondly, keep chopping the remaining interval up using guess and check
until you get the desired accuracy (keep in mind the relationship between
the log and a number to the nth power.) In BASIC or Pascal it makes for a
fairly simple subroutine. Although this is a bit obvious, I wanted to make
sure you had heard about it.
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* Origin: Dynasoft (916)753-8788 HST C, C++, TimeGates (1:203/955)
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Number: 190
Date: 22 Sep 91 23:06:00
From: Eric Kaljumagi
To: All
Subject: ST-Keep
Area: AtariSt
ST-Keep is one of my favorite board programs when things get complicated
(like when I'm trying to figure out the Sacramento Atari User's Group BBS),
but for board that are Atari specific or not too frequently used, I've
found that the board Axolotl in Sacramento uses is absolutely user
friendly. Anyone know what it's called? I'll have to ask the sysop.
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* Origin: Dynasoft (916)753-8788 HST C, C++, TimeGates (1:203/955)
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Number: 191
Date: 22 Sep 91 17:19:18
From: Craig Rothman
To: Paul Drake
Subject: Atari 800 Xl
Area: AtariSt
Theres always a zillion of them for sale in the 8 bit fidonet echo.
Should tell em about those..
Also, a used PR sells from $30-45 and an 850 goes for 45-60+!!!
--- The Msg Mgr for TDBS
* Origin: See all our third party software at 508-429-1784 (1:322/360)
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Number: 192
Date: 22 Sep 91 14:59:00
From: Fredrik Coulter
To: David Wills
Subject: updating flash
Area: AtariSt
Have you called up antic about updating flash. There is probably an update
fee, and they will want your old disk back. It can't hurt to call, except
for the long distance charges.
-The only computers I work on are Suns and Ataris-Fred
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Number: 193
Date: 22 Sep 91 07:49:36
From: Barry Summer
To: All
Subject: LEXICOR REVIEW
Area: AtariSt
Anyone interested in animation should read the excellent detailed
review of CHRONOS/PRISM PAINT in the Sept. issue of ST INFORMER.
It should answer most questions some of you may have about Chronos
and the reviewer, Clifton Williard even included illustrations and a few
color pics to go along with his most favorable review of Chronos.
/s
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* Origin: the Night Shift BBS - Staten Isl, NY - (718) 816-7792
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Number: 194
Date: 22 Sep 91 07:55:35
From: Barry Summer
To: Darren Meer
Subject: ST INFORMER
Area: AtariSt
Darren, just received the Sept. issue of ST Informer and rushed to find
the review of Chronos/Prism Paint as you promised.WOW, the review was
excellent andeven had a bunch of illustrations to go with the detailed
text. Mr. williard's impressions of Chronos seem to echo my own
feelings of this great program, and I even learned some hints myself.
My thanks for including such timely, interesting information. I
believe your publication was the FIRST with an in-depth analysis of
any Lexicor program. My local sysop has started a Phase 4 animation
conference and I would like to know, if possible, how I may contact
Mr. Clifton Williard. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks again for ST Informer filling my personal needs. I truly feel
ALL ST users should subscribe to your monthly newsmagazine.
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
* Origin: the Night Shift BBS - Staten Isl, NY - (718) 816-7792
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Number: 195
Date: 22 Sep 91 10:45:00
From: Kevin Siegel
To: All
Subject: Atari 2600
Area: AtariSt
]If anyone is looking for an Atari, I am selling one for $40.00! It comes
complete with 17 game cartridges. If you would like to buy on just consider
it, please feel free to leave a message with me, or call (914) 856-6150.
Thank you.
|<evin
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* Origin: Shadow Spawn BBS Montague, NJ (201) 293-7778 (1:269/203.0)
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Number: 196
Date: 22 Sep 91 11:29:00
From: Mason Taube
To: Jeff Mitchell
Subject: Disk
Area: AtariSt
re: disks, postal strike, and of course spam.
Ok.. Now, if I only had a computer to run it on...
Thanks!
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* Origin: Poison Pete's in Branchville NJ, -HST-, 201-948-3428 (1:269/201)
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Number: 197
Date: 22 Sep 91 17:39:38
From: Mason Taube
To: All
Subject: HP BBS
Area: AtariSt
Hotel BBS is now back up... See origin line.. If I told ya that I'd
give you something when the board goes up, everything's now available. I
don't remember who wants what, so...
--- ComScan v1.02 TB/ST
* Origin: Hotel Paradise ][ - (201)579-3978 *ST* (1:269/210)
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Number: 198
Date: 23 Sep 91 01:02:01
From: Steve Yelvington
To: Jason Buchanan
Subject: Re: Hooking Usenet into Express
Area: AtariSt
I mentioned it, Jason, because I wanted to make it clear that Mailtruk is
not the UUCP program I use at thelake.mn.org. Not to make anybody feel bad
that they don't have it and I do. I'd be glad to give it away if it were
solely my work; it's not, so I can't.
The components that *are* my work are available to anybody who sends mail
to steve@thelake.mn.org (Internet/UUCP). In source code or executables.
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* Origin: Nick's Nest (612) 490-3415 - (612) 490-0341 HST (1:282/3.0)
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Number: 199
Date: 23 Sep 91 01:07:19
From: Steve Yelvington
To: David Pischke
Subject: Re: TOS
Area: AtariSt
The .TTP extender (and, on NewDesk, the .GTP extender) simply instructs GEM
to put up a dialog box when you click on a program. If you want to pass a
filename as an argument without a .TTP dialog, rename the program as .TOS
or .GEM and install it keyed to the file type.
ARC.TTP won't extract files that way because it needs a command switch as
well as a filename in the command tail (argument string).
UNARC.TTP can be renamed UNARC.TOS and installed from the Desktop and it'll
work just fine. So will BOOZ, the un-ZOO program. All you need to do is
click on an .ARC or .ZOO file, and Desktop will run the extractor.
--- Opus-CBCS 1.12
* Origin: Nick's Nest (612) 490-3415 - (612) 490-0341 HST (1:282/3.0)
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Number: 200
Date: 23 Sep 91 07:25:05
From: Richard Proctor
To: Jeff Mitchell
Subject: Re: Auto Progams To Run With TOS 1.
Area: AtariSt
Well, I was using Dterm when I first got the Atari (month ago) and then I
bought Stealth only to find out it was written in GFA and slower than
Malassos, and no Zmodem built in. So then I ordered Interlink which I
had back in 1988 when I first got rid of my Atari. But I already pitched
the Dterm, though I hope that he keeps updating that program since it
does have Zmodem, Ymodem-g built in!!
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Number: 201
Date: 23 Sep 91 07:26:58
From: Richard Proctor
To: Tim Seufert
Subject: Tos
Area: AtariSt
Ah, I see, so you don't get the choice of putting in yer own parameters
then with the box on .ttp programs or any program that you try and install
with the tos takes parameters then....That's what i've been trying to find
out...is how come why...but you answered that now. Thanks!
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