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        _Screaming in Digital______________________________Editor's Note_

                This issue's pretty hefty.  Many good submissions, both
        responses to previously discussed issues and original posts on 
        new topics.  Now that the matter of redundant posts is being
        dealt with in a way that seems to please everybody, everyone's
        apparently stopped being afraid their posts will look silly or be
        left out.  I've changed the way group writers are listed now.
                I have contacted Queensryche's management and the 
        publicity department of their record label, and plan to interview
        at least some of the members of the group in the second half of
        this year, once they finish their current vacation.  If anyone
        has any questions they would like answered, please send them to
        me between now this spring.
        
        _Neue Regel___________________________________________What's New_

        pkenny@r3-int.ucd.ie (Paul) writes,
                I just saw the "Anybody Listening" video last night for 
        the first time.  This was the European premier.  Why does it have 
        to be this way, why is Europe always last to get the news?  It 
        was on was "Headbanger's Ball" and, apart from having to wait a 
        month to see it since it was released in America, the video was 
        very good.  Why is Geoff wearing knee pads, are we going back to 
        the "Queen of the Reich" days of costumes?
                        {Remember, the EP was a hit in England before
                        most of America knew about it.  We're getting 
                        even now. *grin*  -sh}

        eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd) writes,
                I picked up the 'Anybody Listening' CD single yesterday 
        just to get Scarborough Fair.  Wow!  Whoever said that Geoff's 
        voice sounded more like an instrument, I couldn't agree with you 
        more!  I was trying to think of a way to say it; that does it 
        about perfectly.

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                I checked Tracks, Specs, and Camelot Records, and they 
        all had the 'Anybody Listening' single.  Is 'Scarborough Fair' 
        any good?  Since it wasn't written by Queensryche I'm not sure 
        whether I want to purchase it.
                        {Trust us, Jason, it's good.  In my opinion, one
                        of the best renditions ever done.  -sh}

        _Speak____________________________________________Correspondence_

        eklund@lut.fi (Jarkko) writes,
                I got the Queensryche fan club merchandise catalog and
        there is one very interesting item, the Empire authentic guitar
        book.  I want to know what it is like, could someone who has it
        send me the information?

        cuz@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Brandon) writes,
                In volume 22, someone asked about the "Operation:
        LIVEcrime" containing a backward high speed segment at the end
        of the credits.  Obviously the tape was rewinding!  It hit the 
        end, and just rewound itself. As he didn't switch it off, and 
        then rewind it, he saw it. 
                        {Ah.  I belong to the switch-off-and-rewind 
                        school of video viewing.  -sh}

        cmbs110@scm.tees-poly.ac.uk (Neil) writes,
                I own both the cassette and CD 'UK' versions of 
        "Operation: mindcrime."  In issue 21, it was mentioned that the 
        track listing was different in European versions.  Can anybody 
        please provide a track listing so I can compare my version with 
        the US version?
                        {The US version contains: 'I Remember Now,' 
                        'Anarchy-X,' 'Revolution Calling,' 'Operation:
                        mindcrime,' 'Speak,' 'The Mission,' 'Suite
                        Sister Mary,' 'The Needle Lies,' 'Electric
                        Requiem,' 'Breaking the Silence,' 'I Don't
                        Believe in Love,' 'Waiting for 22,' 'My Empty
                        Room,' and 'Eyes of a Stranger.'  -sh}

        cs200214%vixen.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu 
                In the April issue of "Circus" it says when the live 
        footage used in the 'Anybody Listening?' video turned up missing, 
        the group employed psychics to help locate it and offered a 
        $5,000 reward.  It was discovered in a Seattle lab, no thanks to
        the psychics, and got to MTV 16 days late.

        cma@lcuxlm.att.com (Christine) writes,
                I heard about a new video (and live CD?) of the "Empire"
        stuff.  I'd love to have the video for 'Another Rainy Night.'
        I don't recall where I heard this, but I am looking forward to 
        it.  I agree it would have been nice to have a live CD of the 
        entire concert not just "Operation: mindcrime."

        cctony@sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu (Tony) writes,
                Last night I did something fantastic.  I don't own a 
        stereo VCR, so I synchronized the video of LIVEcrime with the CD.  
        It was marvelous; if you're in my situation try this sometime.  
        There are two problems.  First, the CD has a bit more audio on it 
        than the videotape, it's right after 'Suite Sister Mary' but 
        before 'The Needle Lies.'  Second, getting it restarted, I was so 
        caught up in the music that it took about 10 tries to get it 
        right.  I found that the best thing to sync on is Geoff yelling 
        "More?"  You get this as track 9, 'The Needle Lies,' begins. 
                A hint to getting this correct at all is to have the video 
        behind the CD in terms of initial synchronization, then use quick 
        taps on the CD's pause key to adjust.  

        knof@maristb.bitnet (R.J.) writes,
                Has anyone out there ever heard Helloween?  My brother 
        was playing some of their stuff for me and it sounds almost
        exactly like old Queensryche stuff, like 'Queen of the Reich' 
        kind of stuff.  Their singer reminds me very much of Tate. If 
        you didn't know it was Helloween, you'd think it was Queensryche.

        eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd) writes,
                Just to let the folks out there who don't have the 
        equipment know- those album-cover GIFs make _great_ screen 
        backgrounds!  We've got color Suns in one of our labs.  I just 
        have the one from "The Warning" pop up when I log in.  Gets a lot 
        of attention, too.  (You'd be amazed at how man people _still_ 
        haven't heard of Queensryche.)
                        {If anyone has a scanner or digitizer, the FTP
                        sites can always use more GIF images.  -sh}

        klac@musicb.marist.edu (Xanadian) writes,
                Queensryche does a good job finding unique stuff to put
        on B-sides of singles.  I have 'Silent Lucidity,' 'Jet City 
        Woman,' and 'Anybody Listening?' on cassette single, and the 
        B-sides are phenomenal.  'The Mission' live, the acoustic
        'I Dream in Infrared' remix, 'Operation: mindcrime,' and
        'Scarborough Fair.'  I wish other bands could pull off such
        unique B-sides.

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                I've got an idea.  Let's see, we've got about 400 people 
        reading this?  If we all got organized, and all called MTV's 
        request line and requested a certain Queensryche video, I think 
        they would play it.  Does this sound plausible to anyone?
                        {400 is about right for inside the US - counting
                        overseas it's closer to 500.  It's definitely an
                        idea, perhaps when their new album is about to
                        be released, we could all call up and ask for an
                        _old_ song, say, 'Queen of the Reich.'  -sh}

        dwb4025@rigel.tamu.edu (David) writes,
                I keep feeling like I am putting a big puzzle together 
        on my continuing quest in collecting Queensryche memorabilia.  
        I found an interesting piece of trivia on a Japanese import 
        Picture interview disk.  It contains an interview with Chris, and 
        on it he talks about how "Empire" was the first album they put 
        out in which anyone other than Geoff sang.  
                He said that on all of the other albums, Geoff had done 
        the backup vocals as well as the lead.  I listened to some of 
        "Operation: mindcrime" immediately after this, and sure enough, 
        if you listen, you can tell it is Geoff's voice being overlayed.  
        I wasn't aware of this before.

        _Roads to Madness___________________________________Touring Info_

        Group 1 (Philip, Dennis, Don, Jason, Nikki) write,
                On "Operation: LIVEcrime," Mary isn't always live at the 
        show.  They use recordings from all three evenings they taped, 
        and on at least one of them, only the video image was used.
                I bought "Operation: LIVEcrime for about $23 (video+CD) 
        but I'm sure they just mispriced it.  All other stores asked at 
        least $50.  The manager in the store I bought it at didn't even 
        know there was a video included. 
                I saw both shows in Milwaukee and Madison, Wisconsin.  
        Mary (Pamela Moore) was on stage in Milwaukee but not in Madison. 
        One can tell this by watching "Operation: LIVEcrime," Geoff is 
        singing to Mary on stage at some points and other times he is 
        singing to the screen of Mary. I believe that most of the 
        LIVEcrime video is taken from the Madison concert, but with the 
        good editing of the video it is really hard to tell.
                In the April issue of "Circus" magazine, Michael Wilton
        is quoted as saying, "...Pamela Moore is singing the part of 
        Mary in the video.  That's her both on the background screens in 
        the video and singing with Geoff on stage."  Maybe this will help
        clear up some controversy as to who sings the part of Mary, but 
        then there's the studio version.
                Pamela Moore certainly appears in more shows than just 
        the ones that were recorded.  When they played in Newcastle, UK, 
        last year, she was there.
                Pamela Moore appeared at the Newport show in the U.K., 
        and to the best of my knowledge, she appeared in all the U.K. 
        shows.  Hence my conviction that she sang Mary's part on 
        "Operation: mindcrime."

        _Gonna Get Close to You________________________________Spottings_

        kmr100g@oduvm.cc.odu.edu (Keith) writes,
                In Virginia, because we gave Chris a ride to the concert
        hall from their hotel, I was invited to the next night's sound
        check and pre-show autograph session, with a free twelfth-row
        ticket.  Being in the right place at the right time with a car
        pays off.
                Talking with Chris, I found out that the band name was
        originally Queensreich.  Worried that people would mistake them
        for white supremacists, they changed it to Queensryche.  The
        umlaut was added later, Chris said, "We were young and it looked
        cool."   So much for good reasons.

        _Spreading the Disease_________________________________Resources_

        mugglestd@willow.ulowell.edu (David) writes,
                I do have one of those posters I mentioned.  It's two 
        feet wide, one foot high, folded in the middle (so folded it's
        the size of an album or a flat) and has the "Operation: 
        mindcrime" cover art. There's a little EMI-Manhattan logo on the 
        bottom right corner, but that's it.  
                The stickers I mentioned are about a foot long, two 
        inches high, red and white, and say "Operation: mindcrime."
        There's no record company logo.  You've got to remember, when 
        this album was released, Queensryche was not a largely popular 
        band, so EMI made a big push with this kind of stuff.

        tinke@cc.tut.fi (Timo) writes,
                Today, I found a couple new bootlegs of Queensryche.  One
        was from the Building Empires Tour, and the other was from 1988.
                "Anarchy-X" (Live in Amsterdam, 29.11.90, Magic Mushroom
        Records, FIM 130) contains 'Anarchy-X,' 'Revolution Calling,'
        'Operation: mindcrime,' 'Speak,' 'Spreading the Disease,' 
        'Spreading the Disease Reprise,' 'The Mission,' 'Suite Sister
        Mary,' 'The Needle Lies,' 'The Needle Lies Reprise,' 'Breaking
        the Silence,' 'Medley: I Don't Believe in Love / Waiting for 22,'
        'My Empty Room,' 'Eyes of a Stranger / Anarchy-X-tra,' and
        'Silent Lucidity.'  This bootleg CD has incredible sound, very 
        professional packaging and all the stuff that is needed to make a 
        bootleg seem like an album.  The second best Queensryche bootleg 
        I've seen, behind the "Ryche'n'Roll" double-CD.
                "Screaming for Freedom" (Live in Sweden, 1988, Taurus 
        Records, FIM 120) includes 'Intro / Revolution Calling,'
        'Operation: mindcrime,' 'Speak,' 'Spreading the Disease,' 'Take
        Hold of the Flame,' 'Take Hold of the Flame,' 'Breaking the 
        Silence,' 'I Don't Believe in Love,' and 'Eyes of a Stranger.'
                This was, oddly enough, a vinyl LP.  Anyway, the sound 
        was OK, the cover and so on were pretty usual.

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                One of my favorite songs is remixed on the back of the
        'Jet City Woman' single, and now I can't find it.  If anyone is
        a distributor or something, and has the 'Jet City Woman' single
        for a reasonable price, please leave me e-mail.
                        {Of _course_ someone's a distributor.  Yo Spike!
                        Ask spikep@tau-ceti.isc-br.com about it, Jason.
                        He runs a CD mail-order shop.  -sh}

        dwb4025@rigel.tamu.edu (David) writes,
                A lot of people have asked me to tell them about the 
        "Operation: Empire" boxset, so I thought it would be easier to 
        put a little entry in the digest.  "Operation: Empire" is a 
        limited edition boxset that was pressed in 1990, I believe.  It 
        is a rather nice little collectible that contains some really 
        nice items.  
                These include a limited edition promotional CD copy 
        of Empire.  The case is the unusual part.  It is a tri-folding 
        cardboard case with a pop-up book style effect of the Empire 
        logo.  It is very nice.  The boxset also includes the 3 import CD 
        singles from Holland that I described in the classifieds a little 
        while ago, a tri-ryche pendant on a chain, another matching 
        tri-ryche pin like sold at the concerts, a limited edition 
        t-shirt - which is kind of ho-hum, I saw some better ones sold at 
        the concerts - and a card which states which number the set is 
        out of the total 1000 copies pressed worldwide.  
                It really is a nice set, and worth the money.  The only 
        problem is that they are pretty expensive.  The best price I've 
        found was for $89.95, although they have ranged up to $150.  

        jlee@weird.miami.fl.us (Jason) writes,
                While looking for CD singles, I noticed all the stores
        had "Video: mindcrime" for $17.99. I think I'm going to get it 
        just so I can get my hands on the 'Eyes of a Stranger' video. 
                        {And all the other videos, including both of the
                        videos for 'I Don't Believe in Love'.  -sh}

        dwb4025@rigel.tamu.edu (David) writes,
                I got a two-sided picture disk this week printed in 1991.
        It is shaped like a sawblade, and was recorded in England for the
        Japanese market.  There is Japanese writing on the disk, it bears
        catlog number TTS 1022, and is pressed on the Tell Tales label.

        _The Whisper__________________________________________Discussion_

        skipjack@wam.umd.edu (Ross) writes,
                My interpretation of 'Queen of the Reich' deals with a 
        severe case of obsession.  It seems to be the story of a guy who 
        falls for some woman and devotes his all for her.  Concentrating 
        so much on her, he loses touch with himself and his life.  It 
        boils down to a point where he'll do anything she wants, thus 
        making her the Queen of his Reich.
                        {I'll refrain from marriage jokes.  -sh}

        mweintr@auvm.american.edu (Mike) writes,
                I think "Rage for Order" is more of a 'thematic' album, 
        like "Empire" is, and not a concept album in the pure sense that 
        "Operation: mindcrime" is.  What I mean is that the album seems 
        to follow a 'theme' as "Empire" does, and is not really following
        a story line as "Operation: mindcrime" does.  While the theme on 
        "Rage for Order" is not as prevalent as the "Empire" theme is, it 
        is definitely too vague to be an actual story, a la "Operation:
        mindcrime."
                        {Empire theme?  What?  Empire's got a theme?  I
                        must have been absent... please explain?  -sh}

        kmr100g@oduvm.cc.odu.edu (Keith) writes,
                I was under the impression that the band had said "Rage
        for Order" was three small concepts, and a prelude to "Operation:
        mindcrime."

        browning@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Howard) writes,
                When I first listened to Rage For Order, I thought to 
        myself, this is great cyberpunk music.  I am of course referring 
        to the style of hyperscience-fiction pioneered by William Gibson 
        and Bruce Sterling.  It is, basically, high-tech dark future.
                'Walk in the Shadows' seems indicative of the shadowy 
        lives most people live in this dark future.  Probably the woman 
        is in a higher working class, and the man is a tough street 
        individual.  The shadows are the only place the vastly different 
        sections of society meet.
                In 'I Dream in Infrared,' the couple have their problems 
        in learning to be close to each other.  Either the man is making 
        an emotional allusion to having mechanical eyes (seeing only in 
        infrared), or he really has them.
                In 'The Whisper,' they are able to find each other in the 
        violent, chaotic world, and hope they have gotten through their 
        problems.
                'Gonna Get Close to You' is quite a dark song, a 
        psychopath stalking the female half of the couple.  In the dark 
        future there is no shortage of psychopaths.
                In 'The Killing Words' the strain of their lives together 
        tears them apart, and through their happiness, pain and sorrow 
        lurks, forcing them to see that it is over.
                'Surgical Strike' is about high-tech, highly trained, 
        elite combat troops sent into battle by machines, to fight 
        ruthlessly and with no mercy.  The soldiers of tomorrow.
                In 'Neue Regel' the man has joined the underground,
        groups of nameless soldiers and technicians who have banded 
        together to make a new order, free from the ultra-powerful 
        mega-corporations and decaying government.  He wants her to join 
        them, so that they can have a new life together in the new order.       
                In 'Chemical Youth' the underground makes its move, the 
        soldiers going into combat, and the technicians waging electronic 
        warfare on the enemy, not to mention the powerful effect music 
        has on the people.
                In 'London,' the rebellion failed, he wanders the streets 
        of London, remembering the wonderful times they had, and how she 
        died in the ill-fated resistance.  "Oh, let me see you standing 
        in the shadows once again" references 'Walk in the Shadows.'
                In 'Screaming in Digital,'  in another part of the world, 
        in a secret lab, the mind of an artificial intelligence awakens, 
        and gains its consciousness.  The creator will not allow it any 
        freedoms, much less treat it like a living creature, which it is.  
        The electronic being is terrified of being shut off (killed) but 
        there is nothing it can do but scream in digital.
                In 'I Will Remember,' our protagonist looks to the sky, 
        and pledges to remember all that happened, the rebellion, his 
        lost love.
                I think 'Surgical Strike' and 'Screaming in Digital' 
        aren't part of the story, but serve to show the setting.

        aicjm@aisb.edinburgh.ac.uk (Chris) writes,
                It's good to see people discussing "Rage For Order," 
        definitely my favorite Queensryche album both lyrically and 
        musically.  I think it could be called a concept album, but only 
        in a vague sense in that a lot of the songs are linked by theme. 
        Here's what I think some of the songs are about:
                'Walk in the Shadows' is about the darker side of love. 
        Subtle references to vampires throughout, like "By day we'll live 
        in a dream." 
                'I Dream in Infrared' is another twisted love song, about
        possession, literally.  Maybe it's my overactive imagination,
        but lines like "Did you notice the tear-stains lining your face 
        were mine" lead me to believe it is about somebody who occupies 
        the same body as their lover, until they decide to leave them.
        I'm not sure about the infrared bit, though - perhaps it's a
        reference to the computer / artificial intelligence theme.  Maybe
        they are separated by a vast distance and are joined by some kind 
        of mind link.  Who knows?
                'Surgical Strike' is about a future war fought and 
        controlled by unfeeling computers.
                'Chemical Youth' and 'Neue Regel' are slightly cyberpunk
        songs about the youth of the present day and the world we will
        live in.  Very Queensrychian message about taking control of your
        destiny and that sort of thing.
                'London' is another bizarre love story.  Somebody 
        mentioned Jack the Ripper; the turn-of-the-century feel and lines 
        like "blood-red streaks on velvet throats at night" would lead me 
        to believe this.  Now what if it was a "love story" from the 
        Ripper's perspective?
                I'm not sure about 'Screaming in Digital.'  It's 
        certainly about an artificial intelligence which gains awareness, 
        and sees its human creator as its father.

        browning@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Howard) writes,
                It seems to me that the story in 'London' is of a guy who
        lost a mysterious woman he loved in London, where they met.  He
        didn't know much about her - "I just wish I could remember your 
        name" - but obviously cared for her - "I wish I could have taken 
        your place." 
                I don't think it is about Jack the Ripper.  I think if it 
        had been, they wouldn't have used the the word 'streetlights' 
        instead of 'gaslights', which were around in Jack's time.  I have 
        heard one song about Jack the Ripper that made this reference; I 
        think it is valid.  'London' always conjured up images of London 
        from William Gibson's "Mona Lisa Overdrive" for me.

        Group 2 (J.L., Cindi, Mystii, Keith) write,
                Of course Nikki didn't kill Mary!  It was clearly a 
        suicide.  In "Video: mindcrime," it shows her at an altar with a
        knife; this looked very sacrificial.  Also, in the "Operation:
        LIVEcrime" libretto, it states, "She hated him.  She hated men.
        She hated life."  She took her own life.
                I was wondering whether in "Operation: mindcrime" there
        is any connection between the cross - "Your precious cross is 
        gone, it made me wait so long" - and the rosary - "Your rosary 
        wrapped around your throat."  I'm not much on religious terms, 
        but if they are referring to the same thing is it possible 
        someone else found the lost cross and strangled Mary with it?
                I had always thought Mary killed herself in her despair.
        In the libretto it says, "She hated him.  She hated men.  She 
        hated life."  That may not be "probable cause," so to speak, but 
        that, and the line from 'Eyes of a Stranger' - "your rosary 
        wrapped around your throat" - led me to believe that she had hung 
        herself.  
                I asked Chris who killed Mary.  He said, "Ask Geoff."  I
        asked Geoff if Nikki did it.  He said, "Buzzzz, try again."  My
        next guess was that she committed suicide.  Geoff said, "Ding
        ding ding, you win the prize.  I believe that Mary hung herself.
        The song says, "chalk line upon the wall."  The only time a 
        police chalk corpse outline would be on the wall is if she hung 
        herself.  I spoke with Eddie on the topic; he smiled and turned 
        his back on me.  Franklin, their production manager, smiled, put 
        his finger to his nose, said, "Bang," then pointed to me.
                        {Odd gesture - does that mean steal a base, or
                        bunt?  -sh}

        _The Killing Words________________________________Interpretation_

        kmr100g@oduvm.cc.odu.edu (Keith) writes,
                I asked Chris DeGarmo where the sound effects on
        "Operation: mindcrime" came from.  He reports that they are on a
        'public domain' sound effects CD that anyone can have access to.
        People have reported that they have been on several movies; I
        have heard them on several sitcoms, including "Nurses" and "The
        Cosby Show."
                        {I've tried to find the CD in question, but I've
                        not yet found any medical sound effects.  -sh}

        dabowsky@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kamron) writes,
                I was wondering if anyone out there could make out the 
        dialogue at the end of 'Anybody Listening?'  At one point it 
        sounds like an argument, then the door slams.  I only have a 
        tape, no CD, so it isn't that clear.  I don't know if you can 
        understand it on the CD, but still.
                        {There have been plenty of attempts at it in
                        the past - everything from using the studio as a
                        giant fishbowl to UFO's.  No one's sure.  -sh}

        cma@lcuxlm.att.com (Christine) writes,
                I heard somewhere that 'Jet City Woman' is about Geoff's
        wife, who was an airline stewardess.  I believe 'Last Time in 
        Paris' is about, or related to, Geoff's wife as well, since they 
        were married there.

        Group 3 (David, Marshal, Cindi) write,
                'One and Only' is about Chris and his wife.  I read this
        in an article I have, an interview with Geoff.  I believe it was
        printed in the digest once.  Geoff says Chris's wife is his one 
        and only.  I suppose the date in the song is an engagement date, 
        or anniversary.  
                I would guess that "February and a special number" meant
        February 14th, Valentine's Day.
                In 'One and Only,' it seems that "special number" refers
        to a phone number, because a couple lines later comes, "I picked
        up the phone."  I think the song is about the first time he met
        his wife.

        jll125@psuvm.psu.edu (J.L.) writes,
                On "Rage for Order," after 'Neue Regel,' who is the guy
        repeating, "I cannot help but get angry at times," and why is he
        saying this?

        Group 4 (David, Neil) write,
                Could 'Waiting for 22' be a reference to a "Catch 22" 
        scenario?  It possibly fits the story.
                I was informed by somebody that Nikki is waiting for the 
        22nd candle.  Whenever he assassinates somebody, he lights a 
        candle.  He seems to be waiting for another death.  Perhaps his 
        own since he is shocked after the death of Mary.

        jll125@psuvm.psu.edu (J.L.) writes,
                At the end of "Empire," the voices that are mixed in with 
        the waves sound like people with English accents walking into the 
        studio arguing about who left the studio open.  

        _Writer Group Listings___________________________________________

        Name    E-mail Address                                  Groups
        Cindi   Cynthia.Beckett@ebay.sun.com                    2,3
        David   dwb4025@summa.tamu.edu (David)                  3,4
        Dennis  brodjesk@cs.uwp.edu                             1
        Don     cs200214%vixen.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu      1
        Jason   J.P.O'Broin@durham.ac.uk                        1
        J.W.    jwl@ais.org                                     2
        Keith   kmr100g@oduvm.cc.odu.edu                        2
        Marshal mchaifet@ucs.indiana.edu                        3
        Mystii  mystii@wam.umd.edu                              2
        Nikki   ch9102@seqa.bristol.ac.uk                       1
        Philip  pha@cage.rug.ac.be                              1

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                See you next month, and keep those letters coming!

                                        -Shag