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Screaming In Digital 165 (Queensryche Fanzine)
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Screaming in Digital - Editor's Note
I'm very sorry this issue is nearly a day late. Despite a welcome
decrease in bandwidth, I still have a hard time getting it done due to
changing jobs - and thus schedules - in the last three days. I should
be on a more consistent schedule from here on, though.
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Contents - Contributors
Sister Mary - James
Sister Mary - Brendan
Queensryche on Rockline - Michael
Media Coverage - Eddie
Media Coverage - Jason
CD-ROM Availability? - Anthony
License Plates - Rayni
Z-Rock Ryche-umentary - Tim
Local Interest? - Andy
Song Comparisons - James
Alesis ADAT use? - Bob
Touring Partners - Jim
Someone Else? Question - Scott
Unplugged Sessions - Mike
Australian Release - Darren
Prophecy - Todd
Views on Promised Land - Paul
Promised Land Reaction - Bob
Bridge - Paul
Bridge - Jesselyn
Bridge - Shane
Lady Jane - Bob
How Mary Died - Paul
Meaning of Songs - Dan
Japanese Promised Land - Marietta
Livecrime Video for Sale - Shane
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Neue Regel - News & Reviews
Sister Mary - James (ford@hermes1.sps.mot.com)
"Sister Mary" is the name of the new band featuring Pamela Moore, who
played Sister Mary on Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime album.
Sister Mary - Brendan (bw004d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu)
I just read on the net that a new band has formed, with the lead
singer to be the voice of Sister Mary. The band is to be named "Sister
Mary" I don't have much other info, but that should be an interesting
endeavor.
Queensryche on Rockline - Michael (mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu)
The latest news from the radio concert digest is that Queensryche will
be on Rockline on Nov 28.
Media Coverage - Eddie (edju@chaph.usc.edu)
The December issue of Guitar World had a not-too-flattering review of
Promised Land. It got only 2 1/2 stars, while The Black Crowes' new
album and Eric Clapton's new album each got 3 1/2. Basically, the
reviewer compared Promised Land to Empire, and found it inferior in
almost every aspect. The only positive thing said about Promised Land
was that the last 3 cuts "represent some of the finest material of the
band's career."
I believe there are a significant percentage of Queensryche fans out
there who are not too thrilled with the new CD. I really hope they
didn't peak with Mindcrime - that'd be a real pity.
Media Coverage - Jason (jobroin@madge.mhs.compuserve.com)
The December '94 edition of Guitar for the Practicing Musician has a
large article/interview with Queensryche. The article includes an
interview with Michael Wilton, one with Chris DeGarmo, a column with
Geoff Tate, and a transcription of I Am I. It all looks like rather
interesting stuff.
From my quick scan, it seems the reason the album took so long to make
is that they all took a couple of years sabbatical from the band and
music industry in order to "get a life." Perhaps they should buy
themselves a Governorship?
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Speak - Comments & Questions
CD-ROM Availability? - Anthony (alchemy@xmission.com)
When will the CD-ROM be available? I haven't seen it for sale yet.
February 1995. -sh
License Plates - Rayni (rmcclellan@yorkcol.edu)
My friend Mike has a license plate that spells TRIRYCH. Is there
anyone else out there who has seen any other plates? It's nice to see
them and to see the different ideas people come up with for them.
Z-Rock Ryche-umentary - Tim (stc1976@siena.bitnet)
Did anyone else catch Z-Rock's 2 hour Ryche-umentary that was aired
the Friday and Saturday before the release of Promised Land? It was a
great trip down memory lane with Chris and Geoff, and offered insight
from the guys themselves on many of their songs and albums, and why
they sounded the way they did, or what they were about.
The interview was mixed in with the Best tracks off each album, and
concluded with a 5-song preview of Promised Land which included I Am
I, Damaged, Out of Mind, Disconnected and Lady Jane. Chris and Geoff
offered up brief explanations of the stories behind the songs. Geoff
also gave his interpretation of the symbolism of the cover art on
Promised Land.
They also talked a little about the upcoming CD-ROM which will
document the making of Promised Land, with actual candid footage of
the band writing, recording, and demoing songs for the new album. This
makes me want to go out and upgrade my PC just so I can see
Queensryche in action. The CD-ROM will also include a bio of the band,
along with plenty of other neat things, I'm sure. The guys wouldn't
say too much more about the CD-ROM other than it would be out around
February. As usual they like to be secretive about upcoming projects.
The most exciting thing that I heard in the interview was during their
chat about Mindcrime. The interviewer asked Geoff whatever happened to
Nikki, and Geoff's response was, "He's trying to make a comeback." I
hope the sequel - if it comes - is as good as, or better than the
first, which is no short order.
If anyone wants a copy of this interview, I have my own on 1 1/2
90-minute audio cassettes, and would gladly make a copy for any
'Rychers out there, for the cost of the tapes and S&H, or if you have
an interesting Queensryche artifact I would be willing to make a
trade. If you would like a copy, e-mail me - it is a nice little
chronology of Queensryche history.
Local Interest? - Andy (andrius@umich.edu)
I am a new member of the Queensryche fan club and would like to know
if there are any fans in my area. I am a student at the University of
Michigan in Ann Arbor, and for whatever reason, there are no active
fans in my neighborhood. Please e-mail me if you are in Ann Arbor, or
know someone who is.
Song Comparisons - James (qralston+@pitt.edu)
Chris pointed out that some of the songs on Promised Land sound like
other group's songs. Another example of this is Disconnected - it
sounds a lot like Gary Numan's Mean Streets, or maybe it's Mean
Streak.
Alesis ADAT use? - Bob (crispen@eight-ball.hv.boeing.com)
Alesis made a big deal about Queensryche doing Promised Land on their
ADATs. Yet I don't see Alesis mentioned in the liner notes. Did the
band end up ticked off at Alesis or the ADAT?
Touring Partners - Jim (jrobinson@zodiac.rutgers.edu)
I just finished reading the latest digest, and I think Dream Theater
would be a horrible opening act. I tried and tried to like Dream
Theater, but finally gave up and sold off my discs. Some may think
this odd, but a perfect match for me would be Fates Warning, and then
King's X.
Someone Else? Question - Scott (ryche@ods.sol.net)
Has anyone else noticed a crackling sound during the last half of
Someone Else? I know it's not a dirty or scratched CD or anything,
so I'm really puzzled as to what it is. Did I just get a bad copy of
the CD or what? The crackling gets to be really annoying after a
while, and really ruins a great song. I'd really appreciate any
feedback from anyone else who's noticed this.
Unplugged Sessions - Mike (thorpjm@mail.auburn.edu)
I recently watched Building Empires again, and was wondering what
other songs the boys performed on their Unplugged segment on MTV? I
heard their segment was 45 minutes long. I think the Unplugged videos
are the highlight of Building Empires. Since there is a lot of
acoustic stuff on Promised Land, is there any chance the guys will do
another segment? I wouldn't bet against it.
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Spreading the Disease - Info & Resources
Australian Release - Darren (sutton@eodsa.mrl.dsto.gov.au)
Just for the record, the Australian release date was Octover 28th. As
readers of Screaming in Digital already know, there was a staggered
release, Europe first, then America and Australia even later. Mark
probably bought an import copy, as I'm sure he'll discover if he
checks the disc and sees where it was pressed.
Prophecy - Todd (seelytj@sacadem@sunyerie.edu)
Prophecy was recorded during Rage for Order sessions. It's right on
the CD inlay card of Queensryche's EP.
I'd like to know why they waited to the Rage sessions to record
Prophecy, which they'd been playing for a year or so at that
point, and Scarborough Fair, which Geoff had been singing even
before Queensryche formed. -sh
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The Whisper - Discussion
Views on Promised Land - Paul (gallegos@arizona.edu) Personally, I
found that there were several songs that stuck in my head after the
first playing of the CD:
I Am I (go figure). Definitely a popular song within the Tucson rock
community.
Bridge. While I've noticed that this song has its degrees of
popularity on this digest-list, I find it strikingly good, if only for
its simplistic melody and lyrics. (Though I have to agree with whoever
mentioned that it could be a lot better if Geoff would stop saying
'dad' at the end of each verse. ;)
Out Of Mind. I can see why many think and would want this song to be
the next single. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't as
popular as...
One More Time. Has the energy, music, rhythm, and lyrics to become a
very popular tune (akin to Jet City Woman or Another Rainy Night).
Lady Jane. People have been comparing this to Silent Lucidity for a
while now. However, I doubt it will be as popular, simply because the
lyrics are definitely haunting (and somewhat disturbing if read into
enough) even though it has a flowing melody.
Disconnected. This also has the potential to become a popular hit, at
least at the dance clubs, simply because of the catchy rhythm.
Personally, this is the song I put in the CD player in the car when I
go driving. :)
Someone Else?. Easily a followup to Silent Lucidity (minus the
orchestra). Someone compared it to Extreme's More Than Words in terms
if its simplicity, which is about right. This song could be the song
on the album that gets listeners' attentions.
Again, if there are two songs on this album that propel it into the
top 40 scene, like Jet City Woman and Silent Lucidity did for Empire,
it will definitely be One More Time and Someone Else?.
Promised Land Reaction - Bob (crispen@eight-ball.hv.boeing.com)
There are darn few songs that are instantly accessible enough for
Promised Land to be likable the first time out of the box. But there
are plenty of songs that are deep enough for Promised Land to be
lovable in the long run. To heck with what impact this might have on
their career - e.g., millions of clueless 12-year-olds not buying it.
Let's just be grateful we have it.
Bridge - Paul (tsbileci@music.loyno.edu)
I was thinking about the lyrics to Bridge today and how a lot of
people were saying it was one-sided. Yes, that's true, but I think I
know how Chris felt when writing the song. It's not because I can
relate directly to it, but rather that it makes me appreciate my
relationship with my dad. Sometimes I take him for granted since he's
always been there for me and always supported me. Bridge made me
realize how lucky I really am.
As an aside, when I first heard the song, it did remind me quite a bit
of Cats in the Cradle. And though it's not a typical Queensryche song
- if you can actually call anything of theirs "typical" - I really
like it.
Bridge - Jesselyn (ip15100@portland.maine.caps.edu)
I noticed a great deal of interest generated by the song Bridge. I was
cleaning my room when I was listening to the new CD for the first
time. Bridge came on and I stopped what I was doing. I read the words
while I listened, but I had to stop halfway through because I was
crying so hard I couldn't read the words.
A person doesn't have to be physically abandoned to feel the loss of
love and care, the feeling of abandonment. My father is an alcoholic
who left us for three years. When he came back, he acted as if he
would rather be anywhere than with us. He was physically present,
which only served to remind me that he didn't care enough to be
emotionally present. He drove me away From home. I know the feelings
behind Bridge, all too well.
The feelings generated by that kind of emotional abuse are very
difficult to overcome, if it can be done at all. Bridge is a very
powerful song, even if it may seem one sided to some. However, it will
touch more people in a very real and personal way than it should in an
ideal world.
Bridge - Shane (naa2354@dsacam.dsac.dla.mil)
I would like to add my support to some comments that were made in last
week's digest about Bridge, in regard to the impact the song has had
on one reader as he has attempted to place more emphasis on his
relationship with his daughter, to keep it from becoming like the one
portrayed in the song.
I made a connection along these same lines. I am the father of a two
and half year old boy. His mother and I are divorced and she has
custody of him. I am disabled, so it is rather difficult for me to
take him as much as I might like to, and his mother often complains
that I do not spend enough time with him and that we have not bonded
as we should.
When I first heard the song, it was all I could do to contain my
emotions. I stared at his picture and began to cry. I vowed then and
there that my relationship would not become like the song. I have sat
down with my son and listened to the song with him. I promised him
that I would always be here for him no matter what the situation might
be. Since then our relationship seems to have improved dramatically.
To that end I say, more power to Chris and his song! It has certainly
made an impact on me!
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The Killing Words - Interpretation
Lady Jane - Bob (crispen@eight-ball.hv.boeing.com)
OK, gang, will somebody please buy me a clue? On the one hand, Lady
Jane can be about somebody's little girl playing in the park; on the
other it can be a great big girl doing acid or otherwise going out of
her mind. From the lyrical context, I think it's the former; from the
tone of the music, I think it's the latter - who else but our lovable
lads would write so menacingly about a kid in the park? Hope to
goodness this isn't another who-killed-Mary thing. Oh my God: Janie
is Mary come back from the dead! Noooooo!
How Mary Died - Paul (tsbileci@music.loyno.edu)
Someone mentioned that the answer to what happened to Mary is in
Video: Mindcrime. Well, in the video for one of the songs (forgot
which one. I haven't watched the video in a while), Dr. X is shown
with a rosary suspended tightly between his hands, moving forward
towards someone, I'd say Mary. I think Dr. X strangled Mary, then set
her up so it looked she hanged herself. After all, Dr. X did want Mary
dead, and Mary seemed to have a little more hope after the events in
Suite Sister Mary, especially since Father William was killed.
Meaning of Songs - Dan (vilkata@iastate.edu)
On the subject of the meaning of songs, which of course comes up all
the time in Screaming in Digital, Shaq came out with his very own
album a while back, which didn't thrill me at all - oh, sure, just cuz
he's a sports star, he gets an album - but I saw one of his videos on
MTV today which reminded me of all the discussion here about Bridge
and various people having bad relationships with their fathers. It's
basically about his biological father doing the same thing all these
other fathers did, and about how his step-father is his "real" father,
and now that he's famous, his biological father now wants to patch
things up - in this case, because Shaq's rich. Shaq's doing the same
thing Chris is doing - he refuses to have anything to do with him.
Fortunately, this never happened to me, but I can certainly see their
viewpoint.
The other thing I noticed was that some people are so concerned about
finding out "the" meaning of a song, while in many cases the bands
keep it somewhat cloudy for the specific purpose of letting it mean
whatever the listener wants it to, thus letting it have more meaning
for more people. In an interview with Pearl Jam - again, on eMpTyV -
they said that they have purposely kept from explaining the meaning of
Jeremy to the public; they said it does have a very specific meaning,
but by not telling it, more people can identify with it. That's why I
like the way a lot of people on the digest say that "to me, this song
means..."
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Anybody Listening? - Advertisements
Japanese Promised Land - Marietta (allenmm@emh.yokota.af.mil)
If you need copies of the Japanese version of Promised Land, drop me a
line. Living over here makes it real easy to find.
Livecrime Video for Sale - Shane (naa2354@dsacam.dsac.dla.mil)
I currently own two original copies of the Operation: Livecrime video.
I would be willing to part with one. If anyone is interested please
e-mail me so we can make arrangements.
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That's all for now, see you all again next week!
'Ryche on!
-Shag
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