AOH :: KEELYMSG.TXT
Message thread dealing with John Worrel Keely
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EDITED TRANSCRIPT OF THREAD ON KEELY
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My DOS CIM archive got corrupted and some messages became
unaccessible. Here is what I could reconstitute from my auto-filed
messages (which also got missing at one time because of loss of
CIM settings). If someone finds that any large section of my
exposes are missing, please notify me and send me a copy so that I
can update this file.
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Subj: Keely and his inventions Section: New Age Sciences
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 94712, 2 Replies
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 22-May-93 17:21
John Worrel Keely did most of his activity between 1872 and 1898. He
demonstrated the potential power in vibratory rates. For example, he
demonstrated the movements of weight by striking the strings of a zither;
another device generated tremendous power by simply pouring a quart of water
into a cylinder wheer tuning forks "liberated" energy inherent in the
molecules of water. He also fired a small canon with this same
mysterious force. He evolved, almost instantaneously, according to
the attestation of a witnessing group, a substance having elastic
energy varying from 10,000-20,000 psi, and instantly discharged or
liberated it into the atmosphere, without the evolution of heat in
its production, or of cold on its sudden liberation.
Dr. Thomas Henry Moray did also generate useful electric power from an
apparent invisible "vibratory" source. There is also a Karl Schaeffer (I
never heard about him) who developed a device that obtains energy from the
molecules of water by shaking, choking and vibrating it.
Keely exhibited his "vibratory generator" for the first time in Philadelphia
on 10 Nov 1874. Most of his research under the "Keely Motor Co." was
supported by Mrs. Bloomfield Moore who inherited vast sums of money from her
husband Edmund Moore. Her son, Clarence R. Moore was Keely's biggest
detractor because he despised the "waste of money", i.e. he did not like to
see it spent before he could one day touch inheritance money (when his
mother would pass away). Clarence even led a party of detractors to tear up
the floor under Keely's appartment the day after the inventor's death.
Many of Keely's demonstration took place in that appartment and
beneath the floor, they found a huge metal globe filled with brass
tubing. Holes had been drilled in the floor joists to allow tubing
to pass through, and their conclusion was that Keely used air
pressure to accomplish his "unexplained power" demos. However, no
compressor was found and at no time during any of the demo did
anyone here the unmistakable sound of pneumatics in action. Keely's
backer said that they knew of the hidden sphere and that it was
used as a "vibratory chamber".
Mrs. Moore wrote the book "Keely and his Discoveries" and
understood better than most what it was that Keely attempted to
demonstrate. If the universe was indeed vibratory in nature, then
certain harmonics might be the key to harnessing this vibratory
nature as a power source. Her book was written long before the
atomic age sucessfully split unseen particles but she forecasted
such feat. At that time, the orthodox scientists refused to admit
the possibility of subdivision of all corpuscules of matter. Keely
declared that it can be done by certain orders of vibration, thus
showing up new elements.
By analogy to explosive, where Keely describes the fire as the exciter or
order of vibration which liberates the energy from the constituants of
gunpowder, and concussion which liberates thenergy from dynamite, Keely said
that he discovered another order of vibrations which dissociates the
elements of water into immeasurable volumes of force. (This is supposed to
call to mind the steam-making device invented by Karl Schaeffer). My guess
is that Keely had found a way to dissociate water molecules by acoustic
means. I once read that frequencies around 600-690 Hz had been found to make
water bubbles when done inside a closed cavity where standing waves are
produced. If this is done inside a closed container, it can be expected that
it would raise the pressure inside the vessel, thus 10,000 psi would be
entirely within the realm of possible.
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Another message around 22/24 May 93:
Of course, Keely's secrets died with him so any work done in that field
has to be re-invented. It cannot be re-engineered because we don't know
what happened to his devices. It is stated somewhere that shortly after
Keely's death, a certain Mr. Konrade removed several of the machines from
Philadelphia to his own workshop in Boston. After setting them up,
he was unable to make them function. In explaining away his
failure, he said that he discovered heavy springs and concealed
gears which were put in motion by a concealed water pump in an
adjacent house. However, the almost microscopic diameter of the
alleged supply tube makes it hard to believe that it was used as a
source of supply. But from there, the trace stops. Maybe they are
still left rusting away in some Boston's backyard.
At the moment, there is only one person known to be building a
Keely machine. His name is Mr. John Howie, P.O. Box 193, Fort
Shepstone, Natal, South Africa, who has nearly completed (as of
1973; he may not even be there now!) a working reproduction of
Keely's musical ball. Musical balls were metal spheres having 6
inch of diameter, "having chords of mass of B flat first octave, E
(sic; more likely B) flat second octave, and B flat third octave",
which rose and descended in a glass tank ak water according to
which note was struck.
Keely is said to have written papers describing his work but none
of these have been traced. (they might still be lying in some
private library). The titles are:
a. Theoretical Expose or Philosophical Analysis of Vibro-Molecular,
Vibro-Atomic, and Sympathetic Vibro-Etheric Forces, as applied to
induce Mechanical Rotation by Negative Sympathetic Attraction.
b. Explanatory Analysis of Vibro-Acoustic Mechanism in all its
Different Groupings or Combinations to induce Propulsion and
Attraction (Sympathetically) by the power of Sound-Force; as also
the Different Conditions of Intensity, both Positive and Negative,
on the progressive Octaves to Ozonic Liberation and Luminosity.
c. The Determining Principle of Matter, or the Connective Link
between the Finite and the Infinie, progressively considered from
the Crude Molecular to the Compound Inter-Etheric; showing the
Control of Spirit over Matter in all the Variations of mass-Chords
and Molecular Groupings, both Physical and Mechanical.
d. 24 charts showing details of his various inventions.
As you can see, Keely had his own "hermetic" terminoly which is
said to have been inspired from Angus MacVicar who published "A
Sketch of a Philosophy" in 1873 or 1874. In that publication,
MacVicar considered that all motion in the Universe was rhytmical
but his book is said extremely hard to read and understand.
BTW, in another article, it is said that the book by Mrs. Moore,
there is not one single description of any of Keely's inventions
adequate for present day understanding for rebuilding them.
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Another message around 24/25 May:
>>Is there a collectors forum on CIS?<<
Good idea. There must be one but it is more likely to be restricted
to common collectible goods (beer cans, stamps, etc). But if the
guy collects Keely's stuff, he's more likely to browse the New Age
Forum. Ri-i-ight? <bg>
>>Mrs. Moores book not worth even tracking down<<
Depends for what purpose. The way it is critiqued, it does not
sound too good for scientific purpose.
>>seems everything associated with Keely is either third-hand,
lost, or Hermetic to be useless. Am I overreacting here?<<
No. It is unfortunately as much a legend as Tesla is, or even more!
But there are weird events that have been witnessed and it is nice
to know that some weird phenomena are possible. There have been a
few researchers who have tried to make sense of Keely stuff and who
hopefully have some bits of results. But I don't know. For example,
I hope to get in contact with Dale Pond, the ex-publisher of
Sympathetic Vibration Journal, for a possible CO one day.
>>I fear that conservation of energy will make the gains a washout
with standard electrolysis<<
That's what they were saying about Cold Fusion before. Right? And
many American establishments were whining that it was a lost cause.
Yet we have the Japanese and the Italian getting IMPRESSIVE
results. Let's not give up prematurely. Also, re. the
establishment, I would not be surprized that it was an attempt at
stopping cold fusion in its track having for aim to guarantee the
utility companies (and government) an uneventful stream of revenues
for years to come. Furthermore, if you have read the case about
Marinov, his case about a faulty relativity theory might also be
justified/absolved under such "conspiracy" approach.
It is thus important to keep an open channel for unorthodox views.
That reminds me of Vogel's crystals... but that is for another topic. <g>
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Another message around 25 May:
>>any magic frequency(ies) which, with or without the aid of
electrolysis, would allow one to split water into H2 & O2 with less
total energy than just electrolysis alone?<<
Puharich is supposed to have done research on that. It is that
frequency around 600 Hz. But I will have to recheck the details.
Some of my files have vanished during my disk crash so I may need to
relocate where I got them from.
From: Humble Student 72000,2056 # 94772, 1 Reply
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 22-May-93 22:23
Keely's vibratory work brings to mind a rumor about one of Tesla's
inventions. Something like this:
Tesla was working on a vibratory device that would automatically find
the resonant frequency of the surface it was attached to. That's no
big deal by itself, but here's where the story gets intriguing.
He supposedly built a feedback loop into the device that would then
amplify the resonant frequency. Well, now maybe your asking - so what?
The idea was that he would attach it to the supporting member of a large
structure like a bridge or a building pillar and the thing would find the
resonant frequency of the building or support and shake the whole building
apart.
The denouement: the invention was supposedly so dangerous that Tesla
destroyed all the plans.
My guess is that the story is pre-WWII, because in retrospect of our time,
it seems like a sort of silly "weapon" in retrospect, and viewed from a
contemporary perspective, would be useful as a demolition tool.
Have you ever heard this story?
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 94881, 1 Reply
To: Humble Student 72000,2056 Date: 23-May-93 13:30
>>Have you ever heard this story?<<
Not that exact one but something similar.
Tesla was using this mechanical resonance exciter in an experiment. For
some reason, he could not shut it off. Of course, the vibrations were just
getting stronger and stronger and many people around including the police
were converging on the place. When they arrived there, they found Tesla
with a sledge hammer trying to stop the machine in some way. I don't think
he destroyed the plan though. I had also read that one day, he
demonstrated a resonating device onto a platform for a guest to stand on.
Tesla started the device and within a few seconds, the guest had to be
excused to go to the washroom. (It would have had an effect on the
intestinal tract!).
Walter Baumgartner (previously editor of Energy Unlimited) had developed
such a tele-geo-dynamic device. In his article, he says that on 11 July
1935, Tesla announced that he had perfected an apparatus by which
mechanical energy could be transmitted to any part of the terrestrial
globe. Sonic transmitters led to the discovery of a new wave mechanics and
principles of how sound vibrations can be propagated in the earth without
attenuation. This discovery is still new today (as of 1983). The
article is in the 2nd International Symposium on Non-Conventional
Energy Technology Proceedings, 9-11 Sep 1983, Atlanta, Georgia.
There are also stories of a late Swiss doctor by the name of Hans Jenny of
Cymatics, who did experiments with sound vibrations on liquid mediums. He
mapped and photographed results on different frequencies and qualities of
sound with spectacular results. He showed over and over again patterns of
motion as swirling vortices. He even had results of fluid levitating out
of the vortices in spherical forms and changing into gases and dissipating
into the air with certain resonant conditions. Unfortunately, I don't have
much info on that fellow.
Back to Keely, there used to be a Journal of Sympathetic Vibratory
Physics put out by Delat Spectrum Research in Virginia Beach, Va. I
tried to get in touch with them a while ago but my letter got
returned. The First International Keely Symposium was in Dallas on
1 Aug 1987 and it was co-sponsored by Vanguard Sciences (They are
the guys at Keelynet). So maybe I should check with Jerry Decker
the next time I log onto Keelynet.
From: Humble Student 72000,2056 # 94942, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 23-May-93 19:50
The story sounds apocryphal to me, but that's not a reflection on Tesla's
genius as an inventor, just a comment on all the weirdness that follows as
part of his heritage.
There was a used bookstore in Burbank that carried the "Tesla Speaks"
series of books that had some kind of after-death or channeled
communications with him, which made me a little wary, and there is a group
associated with the books, which you may know about, that ascribes
metaphysical significance to the old guy.
The resonator story doesn't make sense: every object has a different
resonance. And since human beings are mostly liquid, wouldn't that have
the effect of cancelling or damping vibration?
If we were liquids in a rigid container, that would be another matter, but
humans have a flexible covering, and it seems almost unbelievable that you
could get humans to resonate by using an external plate.
Maybe with an induction field, or some kind of sonic field, but there
would be tissue damage to the eyes and ears with sound.
It might be possible, given the kind of control that the nervous system
has to induce an electric or magnetic fields. You could get a resonance
using the muscular system, sort of like the surface electrodes they use
for weight reduction and muscle toning.
As to the propagation of sound energy through the earth: how would it not
be dissipated? Did Baumgartner have a prototype or is this all theory?
Jenny's ideas sound interesting - it sounds like those ultrasonic
humidifiers where vibrations vaporize liquids without heating.
Let me qualify my comments at the end here with the fact that bright
people and inventors in particular can do wonderful things. My comments
are based on my own conventions (and healthy skepticism) about second,
third and fourth hand stories. That conventionalism is based on my
understanding of physical laws.
Inventors can often circumvent the conventional through their creative
efforts. So for me, it is a matter of saying "show me" when it comes to
unconventional science. There are some brilliant people floating around
who run into endless barriers with financing and funding because people
just refuse to accept new ideas that conflict with older kinds of
conventionalism.
And in a way that will hold the nation back. If something is too unusual
or too far ahead of its time, the poor inventor can end up in the
poorhouse trying to convince people. And a decade or two later, or as with
Babbage and his Engines, 150 years later, we finally discover that they
were right. Imagine if the British government had continued funding
Babbage's computers. We'd be colonizing the planets around Alpha Centuri
by now.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 95039, * No Replies *
To: Humble Student 72000,2056 Date: 24-May-93 12:52
>>group associated with the books, which you may know about, that ascribes
metaphysical significance to the old guy.<<
No. Did not hear about such group. Of course, you have to realize that
channeled communications etc., are similar to "fan clubs" activities and
do not involve him directly. It is certainly hard to verify the channel
information unless we succeed to improve dramatically on the Electronic
Voice Phenomenon.
>>The resonator story doesn't make sense: every object has a different
resonance. And since human beings are mostly liquid, wouldn't that have
the effect of cancelling or damping vibration?<<
An object is an object. Even a mass of jello has resonance at a given
frequency. If you ever hear about infrasounds, they are said to be lethal
to man near the resonance frequency of the spine. In the case of Tesla, he
probably had it set to a frequency which corresponded to some physilogical
process of the intestine. The man standing on the plate (similar to the
ones that they use to simulate earthquake) would feel the vibrations being
transmitted via his legs.
From your message, I read that you implied that the plate was an
electrical plate. No. It was a mechanical device.
>>As to the propagation of sound energy through the earth: how would it
not be dissipated? Did Baumgartner have a prototype or is this all
theory?<<
Yes. Baumgartner had a prototype. He published some calculations and
photos in that Proceedings of Non-Conventional Energy Technology. Of
course, he did not get the same strong results as Tesla. But he draws some
conclusion that the power transmitted depends on the length of the stroke
and the size of mass being used to impart the energy.
From: Humble Student 72000,2056 # 95174, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 25-May-93 00:40
Thank you for the reply. Channeled communications are too confusing to me,
since the metaphysics behind it requires many leaps of both faith and
logic. When I said "channeled", that is the contemporary term, though I
forget how the stories were communicated, presumably through some kind of
"medium".
Infrasound is another topic. Is this documented lethality, or is it based
on a theory? Would it be mechanical/physical damage caused by compression?
Elephants use infrasound to communicate over long distances, and perhaps
whales do as well, though that is speculation on my part.
The plate is mechanical, that was my understanding, but how would
resonance be determined? Could one be built using contemporary microphones
and computer processing.
Would it replace Ex-Lax? <grin> Seriously, a non-invasive laxative would
be a medically useful device in hospitals and for people with immune
disorders, who could not tolerate strong medicines.
It would seem that liquid dispersion based on Baumgartner's research would
be useful for everything from paint application, carburetors, insecticide
dispersal and product mixing. How come no one is using it?
The resonant balls: there are small bell like spheres used for a kind of
hand acupuncture in China that resonate in the hand, and have been used
since the Ming dynasty. They seem to be hollow with a ball bearing or
something inside. One is yin the other yang and the circular manipulation
(sort of like Captain Queeg's) is supposed to stimulate the meridians used
in the body's energy flow. It is supposed to be good for the elderly. One
has a high tone the other a low tone.
Have seen smaller bells made of silver from Switzerland that seem to
resonate in a similar way, but perhaps have some kind of magnetic sphere
inside the larger outside sphere, because they ring when shaken.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 95405, * No Replies *
To: Humble Student 72000,2056 Date: 25-May-93 19:02
>>Infrasound -- documented lethality, or theory?<<
Documented. I had read about it in Science and Mechanics (or something
like that) QUITE a while ago. From what I remember, I think that the
damage would be caused by resonance at which the sudden change of
direction of organs would rip them off or damage them (due to their
inertia).
>>mechanical plate but how would resonance be determined? Could one be
built using microphones and computer processing<<
If you have ever seen military gear subjected to vibration testing, you
should get the picture. They have a platform on which they fasten the
device under test and cycle the platform through different frequencies and
amplitude of vibrations. They also test them along the 3 different
dimensional axis. If you stand on it, there is certainly going to be one
or more frequencies at which you will feel "weird".
>>liquid dispersion of Baumgartner's research would be useful<<
??? I did not say that he did research on liquids. He did the research on
the tele-geo-dynamic device (a sort of piston like machine). It is the
Swiss doctor by the name of Hans Jenny of Cymatics, who did experiments
with sound vibrations on liquid mediums. Why it is not used? I don't know.
It is probably used in very specialized fields of hydro-dynamics but I am
not in position to tell you whether or not it is.
I did not know about those Chinese and Swiss balls. What size are they?
(probably smaller than the 6" diameter mentioned?)
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Another message around 25/26 May:
Here are some numbers to quench your thirst! :-)
I have an article written by Dr. Richard Lefors Clark authorizing
unlimited distribution of its content. He is commenting Keely as
follows (extracted and summarized)):
He was working in the acoustical freq. range of what is
generically called gravity control (levitation/antigravity). There
are many freq ranges in the EM spectrum that offer this capability
but the easiest to use by amateurs is the lowest major gravity
standing wave section between 7.8Hz and 60KHz. Audio is in that
band and the frequencies of gravity control in that range are
7.8Hz, 73.5 Hz, 690 Hz, and 6,450 Hz. The first two are the
strongest but the other ones can do the job with more power.
Causing levitation is then only a matter of multiple speakers or
transducers to radiate the signal properly arranged. Usually 6-8 or
more signal sources equidistant from the object to be levitated are
required. These multiple sources are equally spaced around the
levitation object in 90 deg or 180 deg arrangement. The 3 critical
factors are the signal feed-in angles, the signal phasing, and
thelevels. That's quite a number of permutation and that would
Levitation by Tibetan monks has also been reported with acoustic.
They levitate large rocks with audio-frequencies using only drums
and trumpets. Clark guesses that the Tibetans use 73.5 Hz and 690
Hz with those particular instruments. The musical score must sound
very strange to achieve the proper phasing and power criteria.
I had to dig up the Tibetan diagram as it was not included with the
article (although it says that it was included). The diagram was
reported around 1958 by an engineer named Henry Kjellson and later
in his book "A Lost Technique" (probably in a foreign language). It
was from a joint travel with Dr. Jarl (swedish). Here's the diagram:
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<--- 250m --> <--- 63m ---> sound instruments
The rocks being lifted were typically 1 meter long and 0.5 meter
high. (probbaly used for catapults). Nineteen musical instruments
were put into a quarter circle at 63 meters from the rock. 13 drums
and 6 trumpets (ragdongs). The 8 large drums had a square surface
area of 1 meter and a length of 1.5 meter. The four medium drums
were had a square surface area of 0.7 m and a length of 1 m. The
small drum had a surface of 0.2 m and length of 0.3 meter. All
trumpets were small size and a length of 3.12 meter and an opening
of 0.3 m. All instruments could be moved in the direction of of the
rock. The large drums were made of 3 mm steel and built in 5
sections (total 150 Kg). All drums were open on one end.
Behind each instrument was a row of 5 monks singing continuously
their prayer or mantra. Nothing happened during the 1st 4 minutes
but the tempo gradually increased and the stone started to
oscillate back and forth. Then it shot up with an increasing speed
up to the cave level 3 minutes later. Once in a while, a stone
burst into pieces. So here's the sequence of instruments inside a
90 degree arc (the center being lined up with the rock).
L T L L T L M T M S M T M L T L L T L
Where L: Large drum, M: Medium drum, S: small drum, T: trumpet.
A film was made and was supposed to be released in 1990 by an
English scientific association.
So here's something to play with!
From: Humble Student 72000,2056 # 95549, 1 Reply
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 27-May-93 04:20
The chinese balls are about 1 and 1/2 inches in diameter, weigh several
ounces. They are sold in a number of oriental curio shops and some
catalogs. The swiss ones were tiny, maybe a 1/2 or 3/4 inch.
From: David Saltman 76340,213 # 95586, * No Replies *
To: Humble Student 72000,2056 Date: 27-May-93 13:48
Am following your conversation with openmouthed interest. On the Chinese
balls: they vary in size, from maybe three-quarters of an inch diameter
to about two inches. Some are hollow, with "chimes" inside, some solid.
They are usually chromium-coated brass. The trick is to roll them in the
palm so they do not "click." You can go either direction. Then, once
you've mastered that, you roll them so they do not touch, using your
middle finger as a "separator." Your hands feel great afterwards,and you
get a flow of energy throughout the body.
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Another message on 26/27 May, resent on 3 Jun 93:
Keely also developed a "liberator" which was made of a series of 40
tuning forks (brass resonants) arranged in circle. The vibrations
were said to be able to disintegrate air and release the etheric
force capable of rivaling a cyclone in strength.
He also had a "disintegrator" designed to utilize the tremendous
forces released when vibrations disintegrated molecules of water.
It weighed 500 lbs and had the shape of a ball.
In 1974, he exhibited his fuel-less motor to a dozen of well known
Philadelphians. When spoken of in familiar term, it was called a
vibratory generator but the full name was hydro-pneumatic-
pulsating-vacue-engine. That's is essentially when he started his
motor company.
Then there was the "multiplicator" claimed to "produce a vaporic or
gaseous force of great expansive energy (i.e. pressure), from cold
water, unaided by heat, electricity, galvanism, or chemical
substances other than water and air". According to the description,
it sounds like a gas generator. To rub off skepticism, he offered a
demo with complete explanation of the working principles on the
conditions that the witnesses be bound by a non-disclosure
agreement. However, they would be able to attest to the results and
give a general description of the device.
The multiplicator was a series of iron chambers, nearly all of
which were of cylindrical form, connected by pipes, and furnished
with various corks and valves. The total dimensions were 36 inch
high, 24 inch long, and 13 inch wide, with a capacity of 7 gallons.
Note: all dimensions are approximate. The multiplicator was
connected with a sort of pressure indicator placed 12 ft away and
connected by a 1/10 inch pipe diam.
8 feet away, a cylindrical wrought-iron reservoir, 6 inch diameter
and 40 inch long, was connected to the multiplicator by a 1 inch
pipe. There was also a "standpipe" of brass having 2.5 inch diam
and 3 ft high, with a spherical chamber at bottom, connected to the
1 inch pipe connecting the multiplicator and the other reservoir.
Then there was a small "beam" engine located 6 ft away from the
multiplicator and colocated with a cylindrical brass reservoir of 5
inch diam and 27 inch long. It was connected to the wrought-iron
reservoir by a 1/10 inch tube.
Most of the demo was in proving that air could go through the
device (by blowing with his mouth into the different reservoirs),
and that water could go also go through it without being affected
(i.e. looking for signs of chemicals inside). The water was tasted
too. For production of gas, air was first introduced for approx. 30
seconds with only the strength of his lungs. Then the water
introduced in the multiplicator was introduced at 26 psi for about
2 minutes. But the multiplicator produced the gas at 1430 psi.
Improved versions reached peak pressures of 30,000 psi.
The gaseous fluid escaping was found to be destitute of taste or
smell, and not inflammable or explosive; neither did it extinguish
combustion unless used to blow out with force onto a candle. So
that means it was not dissociated water. It had no smell and could
be inhaled without any effect. In the operation of the reaction
wheel and engine, a gaseous fluid was exhausted but no moisture or
trace of water was perceptible. So it might not be water vapors!
When used to drive the reaction wheel, the transition from a state
of rest to the running speed was practically instantaneous, and the
noise and tremor caused by its motion was quite great. In some
rebuttal to claims that it was compressed air, (I think it was an
editorial of Scientific American, in the issue of 26 Jun 1875;
rebuttal in issue of 17 Jul 1875) his attorney asked the accusator
to indicate how it could be so compressed (i.e. without noise or
heat) in no appreciable time. Somewhere else, I also read that the
gas was reported to be 4 times less dense (or lighter?) than
hydrogen. There was also no heat perceptible anywhere, nor any
noise or chock, except for a slight sound similar to running water
Then the machine was taken apart and inspected. No residues were
found. Only water and air was used by the device. There was no
secret chambers or recesses where chemicals or compressed air could
be contained, and no space not fully accessible to a stream of
water passed through the device. There were also no pistons or
moving parts other than valves. Keely's claim was that "there
exists a power in air and water, which, by purely mechanical
manipulation, will evolve a cold vapor." One witness was also
convinced that it was not atmospheric air compressed by external
connections.
So what do you think it can be? An hydraulic "voltage multiplier"?
Then how would it get compressed that quickly? The text does not
say what sort of mechnical manipulation was done though. Nor by
what. Maybe it was just an hydraulic compressor after all. I'll
have to reread it to try to know for how long gas was produced. I
doubt that it was continuous generation though.
From: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 # 95380, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 25-May-93 17:21
The "Electronic Voice Phenomenon" sounds like a subject with some real
possibilities as a new thread.
I played around with that in the early 70's and, although I didn't have
any great successes, I thought I could catch phrases of words in English
and other languages. The people I was hanging around with at the time
just poo-pooed the results and I lost steam.
What's happened in the field since then?
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 95418, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 25-May-93 19:54
>>Electronic Voice Phenomenon: possibilities as a new thread<<
There is/was (I'll have to check again because Dean may have thrown away
good stuff<g>) a file by the name of EVP.ZIP in this forum. There was some
typo in the addresses and phone numbers but the background was good for an
introduction. You can also read "The Ghost of 29 Megacycles" by John G.
Fuller (the author of The Ghost of Flight 401) in preparation. Somewhere
in there, he also relates some vortex motion of water in an aquarium with
shapes/shades appearing inside the aquarium.
>>played around in 70's and<<
What sort of setup did you have?
>>What's happened in the field since then?<<
According to Meek, they have improved the Spiricom to infrared in order to
improve the signal to noise ratio. Although we have discussed it at one
time, we can bring the topic back again.
From: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 # 96145, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 30-May-93 13:49
->There is/was (I'll have to check again because Dean may have thrown away
good stuff<g>) a file by the name of EVP.ZIP in this forum. There was some
typo in the addresses and phone numbers but the background was good for an
introduction. You can also read "The Ghost of 29 Megacycles" by John G.
Fuller (the author of The Ghost of Flight 401) in preparation.
Somewhere in there, he also relates some vortex motion of water in an
aquarium with shapes/shades appearing inside the aquarium.
I will look for EVP.ZIP and the books mentioned.
-> What sort of setup did you have?
It has been so long I can't remember all the different setups that I used
but as I recall I tuned in between radio stations, used different
arrangements of diodes, handwound coils, microphones in the middle of a
quite room, and some others I can't remember. None of these setups were
very elaborate. In fact, all the materials that I used was just from the
junk box of the guy I worked for. I was just a 21 year old apprentice at
the time. I used electronic arrangements that I thought nobody would ever
normally put together using the rationale that others would stumble on the
voice phenomena using "sensible" circuits so I would look for it in
"nonsensical" circuits. I didn't figure that the EVP was purely an
electronic phenomena anyway; I figured it was a hybrid of the etheric and
electromagnetic and normal EM theory may not have been entirely relavent.
Another idea I had, which I never pursued, was the idea that if a human
being can hear the dead then maybe an electronic transducer, mimicking the
human anatomy responsible for hearing dead voices, could be fashioned and
used to record the dead or converse with them real-time. This, of course,
assumed that the physical body plays some role in hearing the voices and
that the phenomena isn't totally meta-physical.
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Another message around 29/30 May:
He also experimented with anti-gravity. With a 8 lbs model aircraft,
he used a silver and platinum wire to link it to a transmitter and
the aircraft went up and down, resembling a "thistle floating in the
air". The instrument for controlling the vertical movement of the
model aircraft consisted of a row of bars, like piano keys, numbered
0-100, representing the enharmonic and the diatonic scales. At 50,
the speed would be 500 MPH while at 100, normal gravity would exist
and the model would fall back to earth. No drawings exists but he
said "the twanging of a taut string, the agitation of a tuning fork,
as associated with the resonance of the transmitter, is all that is
necessary to induce the connective flow and produce the motive" (i.e.
motion, I guess).
Gravity would be a permanent condition in etheric space through
which all visible forms are condensed. It would consist of a
neutral attractive stream flowing towards the center of the earth,
and seeking affinity with a power corresponding to the character of
the molecular mass. There would thus be two streams of attraction:
one celestial, and one terrestrial (similar to a principle
enunciated by a certain Prof. Dudley where earth and Van Allen
Belts have opposite polarity). If the celestial stream is favored,
a mass of metal rises with a velocity proportional to the
concentration brought on the negative thirds of its mass chords.
Then he mentions something about the latent vibratory negative
attraction locked up in iron ore being sufficient for all the force
required in the world. The magnetic stream wave would be at 300,000
to 780,000 per second. (Is magnetic = terrestrial?). Gravity would
be attractive sympathetic stream flowing towards the centre of the
earth. The gravitational flow belongs to the polar propulsive third
of the triune. Magnetism on the other hand is polar attractive.
Are you as confused as me by now!
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Another message around 30 May:
Looking back at the documentation on Keely, he used the term
expulsion when he produces these gases. It is still not clear
whether it was a continuous process or not although the name
implies that it is a "batch" process.
There has been a table produced by Keely for his terminology
regarding frequency ranges:
Molecular 100 MHz
Inter Molecular 300 MHz
Atomic 900 MHz
Inter Atomic 2700 MHz
Etheric 8100 MHz
Inter Etheric 24300 MHz
The last one represented the limit of conception at the time. He
assumed the inter etheric to be a luminiferous ether or plasma.
Today, we know of frequencies up to 1E18. As I mentioned before,
his tuning forks were between 620-12,000 Hz. He thought that the
disruptive force was in the 3rd octave on a frequency of 22,000 for
molecules. Another statement was that "The sounds from vibratory
forks set so as to produce etheric chords, permeate most substances
that come within range of their atomic bombardments". So this
possibly points out to a combination of harmonics sought to
generate these extremely high frequencies from so low frequencies
tunig forks. The text also points out that vibrating quartz
crystals are used to get frequencies as high as 1000 MHz for
commercial ultrasonics. (I did not know that it would still be
acoustic waves at those frequencies).
Keely said that to bring into action the latent force within any
molecular mass, he has to first find out what the harmonic chord of
its mass represents with one of his devices. Only its use is
described but it sounds quite complex. (If someone can make more
sense out of it, it might get interesting).
His example assumes that the mass when chorded represents a B flat.
The negative radiating focalizing bar on the disk is liberated from
its dampening rod and associated with the magnetic defocalizing
one. There are 7 ranges of bars in all. The 6 assemblings being in
this order:
I II III IV V VI VII
Dominant Electro Diatonic Har. Neg. 7th
3rd Mag 6th Enhar.
Then, you need to liberate (according to symbolic meaning) the 2nd
harmonic bar on 6ths, or neutralizing one, and the 3rd, enharmonic
ninth, which is the one counting from negative 7th. Then by using a
transmissive nodal wire, attach one end to the magnetic dispersing
ring, over the negative 7ths cluster, and the other end to the high
polar negative attractor. Then one end of a transmitting wire, of
very fine proportions of gold, silver and platinum, is connected to
the resonating sphere and the other to the mass being experimented
upon. He then gives the syren a rotary impulse of a velocity to
indicate the concordance of the mass attached. If the settings are
ok, the neutral center indicator will rotate with high velocity and
a single tap on the chladna is all that is necessary to induce pure
evolution. (when talking about molecular disintegration) (chladna
is a tonometer or a frequency resonating strip of metal to identify
a given note.)
Subj: Keely- New Science Topic Section: New Age Sciences
From: Mary Carleton 72607,17 # 96514, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 31-May-93 20:16
....
Off of another wall, have you come across Colin Wilson's speculations on
how the alchemists converted base metals to gold? It could be interpreted
that they used resonances (resonation?) to effect the change.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 96543, * No Replies *
To: Mary Carleton 72607,17 Date: 31-May-93 22:28
>>have you come across Colin Wilson's speculations on how the alchemists
converted base metals to gold? <<
Actually, I have never heard of Wilson. You know more than me on that
topic (See!) but I think that it could be easily correlated with what
Keely's theory of matter was (especially disintegration). I am not sure
that it corresponds to alchemy although it is transmutation.
Regarding transmutation, there is a fellow by the name of Hutchison, based
in Vancouver, B.C., Canada, who had produced some weird effects on metals
with scalar fields from interference of Tesla Coils. He did a cross
section of some aluminum cylinder and there were crystals of copper
embedded in the sample under test. This implies that aluminum was somewhat
changed into copper. Bearden had also commented on it and he indicated
that it would be entirely possible that scalar waves could be used to
engineer the structure of atoms, i.e. rearrange the number of protons and
neutrons.
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Another message around 1 Jun 93:
In an unknown article published around 1954, it was suggested that
Keely could make his machines operate while close to them but not at
a distance, and would have spent 25 years try to find why.
(Hmmm...?, sound suspect!)
There was also a Professor Daniel G. Brinton who was involved in
Keely's stuff. He also wrote Maya Chronicles (1882) and Myth of the
New World (1876). Here's the opening paragraph on his philosophy:
"The fundamental conception of the Universe is force manifesting
itself in rhytmical relations. This definition is exhaustive
including both thought and extension, matter and mind. The law for
the one is the law for the other. The distinction between them is
simply relative, i.e. quantitative, not qualitative. The rhytmic
relations in which the force acts are everywhere, under all
conditions, and at all times, the same. They are found
experiminentally to be universally expressible by the mathematical
relations of thirds. These three-fold relations may be expressed
with regard to their results as (also referred as 3 laws):
Assimilative, Individualizing, Dominant or Resultant".
Then, here's a summary of what he had to say about Keely's theory:
All manifestation of force may be treated as modes of vibrations.
The essential differences give rise to 3 modes of vibration: - The
Radiating (also called Dispersing, Propulsive, Positive,
Enharmonic) - The Focalizing (also called Negative, Negative
Attractive, Polarizing, Harmonic) - The Dominant (also called
Etheric or Celestial)
None of these modes can exist independently. Each is called a
Current and all 3 must be present in every stream or flow of force,
and usually in varying thirds (sort of level of quantization?).
This provides for 6 possible forms of sympathetic coincidence, or
forms of individualized being. The relations of the currents in
every flow are expressible in thirds and they are in the order
named as 33 1/3, 66 2/3 and 100. The 6 forms are called orders of
atomic subdivision or orders of vibratory motion and we have
already named them: Molecular, Inter Molecular, Atomic, Inter
Atomic, Etheric and Inter Etheric. These are in order of frequency,
their proportion for molecular orders having been proved to be:
1 : 3 : 9 : 27 : 81 : 243 (i.e. an arithmetical progression). For
atomic orders, it is: 3 : 9 : 81 : 6561 : 43046721 : etc. (i.e. a
geometrical progression). (That is maybe how he was achieving
extremely high harmonics.)
He then extrapolated that all orders of vibrations above the
molecular soon passes into mathematical infinity. But anything
matter that we can observe is in 1 of 3 forms of aggregation:
Molecular, Atomic, Etheric, each of which has respectively a
controlling mode of vibration: Enharmonic, Harmonic, Dominant. Each
of these modes is a positive and real constituent of every
atom/molecule.
The real secret would be in what he calls "evolution". Matter
evolves from the 3 different modes of vibration through the actions
of the second law (law of focalization, also called negative
attraction or negative affinity). Where the vibrations under this
mode meet and are maintained in a certain equilibrium, it forms a
"neutral" centre (he calls it centre of sympathetic coincidence).
He uses the terms neutral attraction, neutral affinity, negative
attraction, polar negative attraction, to express the property of a
mode to direct its components towards the centre. (These are the 6
forms of sympathetic coincidence that I mentioned above).
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 97076, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 02-Jun-93 23:15
So Keely's approach was that every form of material aggregation is
a neutral center of attraction. The vibratory forces from all 3
orders are held in sympathetic coincidence but not cancelled or
mutually destroyed. There is no diminution of force but only
temporary cancellation of its radiative or propulsive feature. This
is teh latent force that Keely means when he says that indefinite
power can beobtained.
In matter, each molecule is in perpetual oscillation, the range of
the oscillation is said to be 1/3 of the molecule, and frequency of
20,000 Hz. By resonance impulses, Keely alters the ratio of the
constituting forces. He does it by striking the same chord in 3
octaves representing the 3rd, 6th and 9th of the scale.
The 6th reduces the range of molecular vibrations and brings the neutral
centers closer to each others (increases solidification).
The 9th extends the range of molecular vibrations and gives "greater
tenuity" to the mass. It induces "trajectile velocity" from the neutral
centres, or neutral radiation. The molecular dissociationdoes not happen
until the range of molecular vibrations reaches 2/3 of its diameter by means
of enharmonic or radiating current applied to the mass, after the molecules
have been disturbed by the musical note above.
The 3rd is the dominant and induces a rearrangement of the modes of
vibrations when brought under control of a harmonic resonant impulse. It
will transform the mass into either its initial forces, or into other
matter. (i.e. transmutation).
There was an article in the Times (New York Times?) around 1880's. relating
a demo by Keely. People attending it suspect that compressed air was used.
Toward the end, Keely forgot was not touching his musical instruments any
more and the revolving globe was rotating just as well. So they figured that
the musical instruments were there only for drawing their attention away.
Keely was also relatively careful about not losing any air pressure: he
turned it off as soon as possible. But his devices were at work for about 20
minutes. The specific gravity of the ether was also claimed to be about 4
times lighter than that of the hydrogen gas.
Somewhere in the documentation that I have, Keely had given a demo of a
desintegrator for mining applications. The witnesses had seen rock fall into
whispering dust and within 20-30 minutes, about 15-20 feet of tunnel had
been vaporized/desintegrated with it.
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Another message around 3 Jun:
>>Do you know what the "liberator" tuning fork frequency(ies)
were?<<
No. But they say that there was one "pocket size machine". Maybe
I'll find it in some more info left to read.
>>Any thoughts on what the air disintegrated into<<
Not for now. If it has lower specific gravity than hydrogen, this
gas does not exist. Yet if he was performing transmutation, that
would mean that elements could be added to the bottom of the
periodic table instead of just at the top of it.
>>what did he use the tremendous liberated forces of libeartor for?<<
Pressure used as hydraulics to lift weight and levers. Up to 10 tons per square inch is mentioned. The power was generated in less
than half a minute.
>>having a hard time visualizing the structures you are describing.<<
There are no diagrams, only text. I just mentioned the biggest
component to give you an idea of what was involved. The description
is not detailed enough for reverse engineering though. Dimensions
were overall. As far as gallon quantities are concerned, I think
they refer to how much water they measured out of the device (when
they tested for any hidden powder, etc.).
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Another message around 3 Jun:
>>Were the Tibetians working in a huge cave<<
No, it was done at in front of and below the mouth of a cave.
>>Maybe this took place in a naturally enclosed area<<
It was just an open meadow.
>>would be much more difficult to get standing waves near the
stones<<
I don't really understand if you mean the stone being
levitated. If you do, why would it be? Sound waves curve around
objects and th eobject is rather small. Plus you have the return
from the echoing wall.
>>Of course, standing waves may have nothing to do with it.<<
Au contraire! standing waves imply scalar waves or phase
conjugation. They use something like that (called 4-wave mixing) to
generate time-reverse light. Acoustic might just generate time
reverse gravity.
From: Mary Carleton 72607,17 # 97714, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 05-Jun-93 14:11
<<Hutchinson ... produced some wierd effects on metals with scalar fields
from interference of Tesla Coils>>
My local library search on Hutchinson produced zip (a standard result for
a rural system). Did he do it with coils of different frequencies & how
did he aim the fields / shield the rest of the lab from the experiment??
Last question. Where do you get your info? How do you find out about this
stuff in the first place?
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 97737, * No Replies *
To: Mary Carleton 72607,17 Date: 05-Jun-93 15:36
>>local library search on Hutchinson produced zip<<
You won't find anything on him as he has not published anything. My
sources for weird stuff comes from many places but one good place to start
is the International Tesla Society, P.O. Box 5636, Colorado Springs, CO,
80931. They have a catalog of all sorts of weird books and videos. Their
phone is 1-800-397-0137.
>>coils of different frequencies & how did he aim the fields / shield the
rest of the lab from the experiment??<<
He was not methodic at it but yes, he was changing frequencies in the
coils. No intentional aiming of the fields and no shielding was used
inside his warehouse.
>>How do you find out about this stuff in the first place?<<
I initially started with an interest in what could make UFO fly. Then one
day, someone gave me some old magazines on that sort of stuff and my
interest grew up in weird science ever since. I had no clue that such
work/hobbies was going on before.
From: JOHN BAJAK 70272,337 # 97806, 1 Reply
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 05-Jun-93 20:08
Your "dead"-pickup sounds a lot like an computer algorithm I channelled in
1985 in Florida. I've adapted in Basic over seven different computers,
From a Tandy CoCo to a Vax 11/70. It works great enough to impress
improbabilities (over two-thirds of the time picking 2 out of 6 numbers,
Weekly Florida State lottery in a year and a half (1988-90))... Nobody
wants it, it's an orphan... What should I do with it?
From: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 # 98569, * No Replies *
To: JOHN BAJAK 70272,337 Date: 08-Jun-93 16:38
I'm not exactly sure what your channelled algorithm does... it guesses
numbers? Maybe you could give me a little more information. Also, how
does it tie into the Raudive phenomena (electronic reception of the
deceased)?
From: JOHN BAJAK 70272,337 # 98696, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 08-Jun-93 22:43
The algorithm answers yes and/or no ... It's like a Godel sentence that
computers understand but humans don't (generally). I would like some
background knowledge on this Raudive phenomena ... does it work on the
unborn?
From: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 # 99167, * No Replies *
To: JOHN BAJAK 70272,337 Date: 10-Jun-93 16:06
The Raudive Phenomena is a name given the generic field of the electronic
recording of the dead. Basically, one can turn on a tape recorder with a
microphone attached at max gain and just record the sounds of silence.
When played back, the voices of people not corporally embodied in the room
can sometimes be heard indistinctly in the background noise. Sometimes in
English and other times in other languages. Exactly where these voices
come from is not determined but, I guess, there is some evidence that they
are from the dead. It has been a very long time since I dabbled in any of
this stuff so I can't say for sure much more than that. I was hoping,
with my original message, that someone else in the section was more
up-to-date with the phenomena and could catch me up on the
research/experiments done to date. As far as whether the voices of
nonborns can be heard, I don't know. I would presume if a soul was
"hanging around" waiting to incarnate it might be persuaded to "talk into
the microphone".
I think, in the back of my mind, I was thinking that the voice phenomena
was a transdimensional one, and that perhaps a "Beardenesque scalar
dimensional phase changer" (an improptu, as-yet-imaginary device that can
make the "barrier" between our two dimensions more permeable to audio)
might cause the voices to "come in" more clearly. In other words, I was
trying to generate an new thread that would culminate with some hardware
experimentation.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 100473, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 15-Jun-93 00:26
I have a document which refers to an article that appeared in the Wall
Street Journal of 15 Oct 1991. Essentially, it talks about flashes of blue
light being emitted by water when sound waves are transmitted through it. It
creates microscopic bubbles which generate the light when they collapse
(also called sonoluminescence). The University of Mississippi has measured
them and so did University of California at Los Angeles (Seth J. Putterman
and his grad student Bradley P. Barber). The experiment is said to have been
reported in Nature but no specific reference is given.
Dr. Putterman points out that a photon of blue light given off by a single
atom carries 3.5 electron-volt of energy, and this is a trillion times more
energy than received from the sound wave. Thus it would point to a source of
free energy. But it also rings a bell, the sympathetic vibrations of Keely
which he used to decompose water.
Now, back to Keely. He claimed that water could be dissociated at 42,800 CPS
(cycles per second). But water could also be dissociated to a wide range of
products depending on what set of frequencies were used. Some people have
looked into the operational principles of one of the last remaining Keely
motors and came up to the conclusion that maybe cavitation was the
underlying process behind his source of power. Cavitation is a phenomenon
where bubbles form in the water when subjected to pressure displacement. It
is often seen at the tips of an underwater propeller and can seriously
damage any metal subjected to it for long period of time. So maybe, when the
bubles are there, the water has a larger volume, and a strong vacuum is
formed when they collapsed. With an appropriate system of valves, that power
could be tapped but you would still need quite a lot of energy to generate
the cavitation by displacement of the water.
Keely also mentioned specific frequencies of 620, 630, and 12,000 CPS
(Hertz) as capable of releasing finer forces held in bondage in the water
molecule. The 620 ergy dissipated into heat than if you just use what is
necessary to break the molecule bonds.)
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 100742, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 15-Jun-93 22:57
According to Keely, the atom would be surrounded with a dynasphere
or etheric capsule which prevents the atoms from touching each
others. (dynasphere would itself be in rapid motion).
The structure of the air molecule would be an atomic triplet which can be
broken up by vibratory action. This triplet exists in a triangular
position within the molecule, at its center, unless acted upon by
electricity, when the molecules become oblate and the three atoms are
ranged in a line within, unless broken up by vibration. Nature never
produces vacuum, consequently the space within the molecule that is not
occupied by the atomic triplet must be filled with something. This is
where the all pervading ether holds its origin.
Now about those harmonics. Keely estimates that, after the introductory
impulse is given on the harmonic thirds, molecular vibration is increased
from 20 KHz to 100 MHz. On the enharmonic sixths, the vibration of the
intermolecule is increased to 300 MHz. On the diatonic ninths, atomic
vibrations reaches 900 MHz, on the etheric sixths,
8.1 GHz, and on the inter-etheric ninths, 24.3 GHz, all of which can be
demonstrated by "sound colors". He believes that the form of energy known
as magnetism, not electricity, is the curative agent of the future. Around
1884, there is a certain Prof. Keil, of Jena, who is said to have
demonstrated the susceptibility of the nervous system to the influence of
the natural magnet and its efficacy in the cure of certain infirmities. (I
guess they did not know of the placebo effect at that time. Modern
medicine would call this a quackery!).
When Keely extracts energy from the cosmos, he does it by changing the
vibrations of the cosmic ether, all by sympathetic vibrations.
By the way, when you talk about a B flat or other musical notes, you
should always keep in mind that the reference musical notes have changed
through time. So a C of the 1600s would not sound like today's C. It would
be at a lower frequency. I don't know if the musical scale had been
shifted up at Keely's era.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 100743, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 15-Jun-93 22:57
I also found the paper about disintegration. During the 1880's, Keely was
doing experiments with an instrument to overcome gravity. He used a block
of quartz a weight to be levitated but observed by accident that the
vibrations partially disintegrated the block of quartz. So he perfected it
to tune it to the quartz disintegration frequency and he could reduce
quartz into powder instantly. The device was the size of a Brownie camera
with a protruding rod which in turn supported a vibrating plate that he
touched the quartz with. The quartz was disintegrated, or actually
dissolved into the ether, or the hypothetical substratum of modern
scientists.
He was challenged to use it for mining and within 18 minutes, he dug a
tunnel having dimensions of 4.5 feet diameter and 18 feet long through
quartz. The gold vein in it was not affected and could be picked up on the
ground. Those who had challenged him had $$$ signs in their eyes and they
figured that Keely would sooner or later make his device available to the
world. So they speculated and bought any gold mine which had a low yield
in the hope that they could make a killing later. When major players start
buying such properties, the rest of teh investors start to believe that
there is something coming and it causes a self-feeding frenzy on the
market by all the followers. But as nothing came up, the value fell back
down and the investors were ruined.
Yet these investors were also investors in the Keely Motor company and
they sued Keely. The court is said to have ordered Keely to reveal all his
secrets to the company investors. Keely got so enraged that he destroyed
the quartz disintegrator along with many others of his unique inventions,
and nobody got anything.
Keely had also another gizmo. He put a small wire around an iron cylinder
weighting several hundred pounds and could lift it with one finger when a
special force was run through the small wire. He had also applied his
force to optics where by means of 3 wires placed across the lens of a
microscope, he could reach magnification power equal to that of the great
telescope in the Lick observatory, the largest in the world at that time.
All in all, Keely must have spent over 20 years experimenting with
sympathetic vibrations, yet it appears that nothing really got into
production or revealed to the world. Was he too much of a perfectionist?
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Another message around 15 Jun 93:
As a reminder, the 7 states of matter are: 1. Compound
inter-aetheric, 2. Inter-aetheric, 3. Aetheric, 4. Inter-Atomic, 5.
Atomic, 6. Inter-Molecular, 7. Molecular. So in the above example,
the 620 hertz disrupts the molecular, the 630, disrupts the
inter-molecular, and the 12,000 disrupts the atomic state (or
levels) of matter. But you need to disrupt the molecular before to
be able to disrupt the inter-molecular, and you need to disrupt
that one before to be able to disrupt the atomic state. Etc.
Also, the structure of forces to be disrupted are: 1. Aether, 2.
Magnetism, 3. Electricity, 4. Cosmic Rays, 5. Light, 6. Heat, 7.
Physical vibration, 8. Matter. The aether vibrations can be slowed
down (or reduced in frequency) through the use of interference to
lower states which eventually manifest themselves as different form
of energy and matter. The process can also be reversed through the
use of harmonic interferences to multiply vibrations to bring them
up to the next level.
Dr. Puharich had found that he could dissociate water with currents
having a frequency of 600 Hz. This happens to be 20 times less than
the 12,000 CPS of Keely but it is a harmonic nonetheless. Puharich
compounds were found to be hydrogen and oxygen but maybe Keely's
result was some other compound. Puharich results are said to have
been published around 1988-1990. He was using a barrel shaped
cavity containing water but I doubt that this had an effect if he
was not using acoustic waves.
Electrolysis by DC current was only 54% efficient but was found to
be 90% efficient at 600 Hz. (Note that this efficiency factor
usually depends quite a lot on the voltage used. I.e. if you use
high voltage, you will lose more energy dissipated into heat than
if you just use what is necessary to break the molecule bonds.)
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 101041,* No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 16-Jun-93 22:55
There is also the history of musical globe which he exhibited at the
World's Fair in the late 1880's. The globe was a sperical device which had
one side painted white and the other painted black. When tuned, it became
activated by simply playing harmonica and started to spin slowly under its
own power (derived from an arrangement of vibrating omponents within the
sphere).
A certain John Jacob Astor (known to be wealthy) was fascinated by it and
got the priviledge of a more detailed demo at Keely's lab. I don't
understand the description too well but here are the main characteristics.
There was a large metal sphere supported in a circular ring. An outer ring
surrounded the inner and supported many other but smaller spheres. When
Keely activated a siren, the large sphere started to spin on its axis in
the inside ring. A few minutes later, the smaller spheres also began to
spin on their axis at rates proportional to their diameter, and also
around the large sphere. The small ones spun faster than the larger ones
(this must be about the rotation around the large sphere), and it appeared
to be related to the large sphere spinning on its axis in the center ring.
After a few more minutes, all the spheres started to rise slowly in the
air while still orbiting. At a certain spot, the large sphere stopped
rising but the smaller spheres started to fan out. But one curious aspect
is that they reached a specific orbit which seemed to be directly
analogous to our solar system. (Remember the bode law where the planets
are in orbit according to some mathematical relations?)
The story says that Astor grabbed hold of one of the smaller globes and it
held him off the floor while keeping orbiting unaffected whatsoever.
(Astor was thus orbiting around the sphere in the room!) Keely is reported
to have said that he had indeed modelled the solar system and that each
sphere was harmonically related in size and frequency to the planets of
our solar system.
When he tried to have one of the small spheres go out of control (with an
enharmonious chord). When the chord was played, the sphere slowly moved in
a straight line and created a hole through the wall and disappeared from
the site. (This sounds like absolute positioning as depicted in the movie
Explorers). When Keely readjusted the device to become harmonic again, the
sphere retraced its path and came back into proper orbit. Although Keely
admitted that it was very unlikely, this represented what would happen if
the Earth losed its tether to the sun --> it would just be liberated from
our solar system!
Conclusion: the solar system must be based on some harmonic relations.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 102298, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 21-Jun-93 21:31
"Neutral Center" was another term used by Keely. By that he meant that if
you took the earth (of diameter 20,000 miles), the material inside it
(except for a 5,000 miles shell) would displace inward to form a center
mass of the size of a billiard ball, leaving a void between the shell and
that center mass. (I think he meant that the thickness of the shell would
always be equal to half the Radius). It would take as much a force to move
the center mass than to move the shell.
(volume of sphere is 4/3 (pi r^3), substracting the volume of a sphere
having R=r/2 would leave you with a shell which takes 7/8th of the total
volume of the sphere).
Keely says that the small central mass would carry the load of the shell
for ever, and keep it absolutely equi-distant: that no amount of power
whatsoever could bring the central mass and the shell to touch each other
again. He also adds that an immense load thus exists upon this point of
centre where weight ceases. This is his "neutral centre".
(Maybe the real structure of the atom nucleus is the equivalent of a
neutral centre).
Furthermore, Keely says that the neutral centre can best be vizualized as
a drain through which the ether continually flows. The size of the Neutral
centre drain determines the volume of ether flow through a structure. And
when you can control the drain of ether flow, you can control the density
and weight of a mass aggregation. The type of mass aggregation also
determines the nature of interferences to the ether flow into the neutral
centre. The properties of the mass and its structure will be also
determined by the mass nature.
By altering the frequencies and phase relationships of a mass, we can
change the weight, density and nature of the mass by reducing or
increasing the Neutral Centre opening to the flow of ether.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 102299, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 21-Jun-93 21:31
A fundamental frequency is generated and sustained by two other
frequencies which can each in turn be generated and sustained by two other
frequencies. This is what we would call multi-harmonics in electrical
engineering. So when Keely talked about tuning to the fundamental, that
means that many frequencies may have been involved.
Tuning to the fundamental gives a certain degree of "sympathy" to a mass
aggregation. Tuning to the finer frequencies (successively) in addition to
the fundamental creates more sympathetic linking for control at a deeper
level of mass aggregation. As a reminder, the hierarchy is:
1. mass aggregation
2. molecules
3. inter-molecules
4. atoms
5. inter-atoms
6. aether
7. inter-aether
8. compound inter-aether.
Each level of mass aggregation has a Neutral centre which is the result of
successive levels of Neutral Centres. E.g. many compound inter-aetheric
elements combine together, the combined Neutral Centres of each element
form collectively a new single neutral centre which becomes the
inter-aetheric Neutral Centre.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 102896, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 24-Jun-93 22:17
Keely also tried to develop an engine based on the Neutral center
principle (to run on aetheric force) but he never found a medium for
inducing a neutral centre. However, he built a Vibratory engine by trying
to form a circuit that has a neutral center excited by his vibratory ether
(whatever that means). It was claimed to be independent of mass (by reason
of his high frequency. (the mass was a globe: I think that it was another
name for his Globe engine or generator).
One of his statement was also that the foundations of the universe rest on
a vacuum point much smaller than a molecule, an inter-etheric point. And
more strangely, to look down into the depths of an etheric center is the
same as searching into heaven's ether to find the end, but with one
difference: one is the positive field and the other is negative. (This is
somewhat as reported by mystics: that the big looks like the small).
In comparing the density of the atmosphere with his ether flow, he says
that air is to aether as platinum is to hydrogen gas. The luminiferous
ether corresponds to his inter-aetheric level of mass aggregation and
would correspond (according to his speculation) to the vibratory envelope
of all atoms.
Another strange but noteworthy statement is that sound would be a
substance (inter-atomic particles) emanating from a body (induced by
percussion, as in a bell) at 1120 feet per second, and 20,000 feet per
second in vacuo. (According to modern science, sound does not travel in
vacuo). This sound would permeate all substances within range of the
tuning forks. If a vacuum chamber were sealed and strong enough, a bell
being constantly rung inside would build up pressures of many thousands of
pound per square inch. Sound would be defined as disturbance of an atomic
equilibrium, rupturing atomic corpuscules, and the liberated substance had
to be a certain order of etheric flow. All bodies are formed from this
thin ether and they only return to that gaseous condition when brought out
of equilibrium.
From: Dean Miller 75110,3417 # 102946, * No Replies *
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 25-Jun-93 04:32
Where did you get this information about Keely & spheres?
Subj: Keely and his inventions Section: New Age Sciences [9]
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 103021, * No Replies *
To: Dean Miller 75110,3417 Date: 25-Jun-93 14:14
>>information about Keely & spheres?<<
The most detailed one is from an information package from Rex Research.
But I also got some info from Keelynet (although their files tend to be
wordy and sometimes overly fuzzy). Then I streamlined that information to
make a sort of introduction to the topic for discussion. (This is quite a
lot of work to TRY to understand and simplify the text.)
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 103097, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 25-Jun-93 21:47
Another thing that Keely had to do with his instruments was a
"differentiation and graduation". Graduation is described as similar to
"tempering" of a mass to remove the knots (nodal interferences) in the
structure to produce a better energy conduction, or better sympathetic
transmission as he calls it.
This gets REALLY complicated. I could not find a definition for
differentiation but it is done during the manufacturing and processing of
the metal (e.g. drawing a length of wire, casting metal, etc). He was
seeking some sort of molecular uniformity (he called it uniform molecular
link) and found that gold and platina were the best metals to use, although
they still require some differentiation. When wires of these metals were
subjected to a certain condition of the first order of intensified molecular
vibration for a transferring medium between centers of neutrality (i.e.
connect two neutral centers together), he found these metals unsuitable for
the transfer of concordant unition because of nodal interferences.
So he had to remove these nodal interferences by inducing, between the nodal
waves, a condition where they become slaved to the inter-sympathetic
vibratory molecular link of the structure of the wire. For this purpose, he
submitted the wire to a system of graduation to find what the combined
chords of nodal interferences represent when focalized to one general
neutral center. Then the differentiation between these nodal waves and the
inter-molecular link must be equalized by what he calls vibratory induction,
to induce pure concordance between one and the other. Each parts even if
built physically identical will have its own resonating qualities (wide
sympathetic variation). So I guess you can understand how his research work
dragged on for years!
One more clue about differentiation appears when he talks about tuning
forks. They can be made to be concordant between each others and the best
will only permit 1/40th "attractive and propulsive receptiveness". (I.e.
there is only 1/40th of the energy of one that can be transmitted to the
other). "By differentiating them to concordant thirds, they induce a
condition of molecular bombardment between themselves, by alternate changes
of long and short waves of sympathy." Technically, this simply appears to
mean that by using two tuning forks, one of which is the third lower or
higher harmonics, they will emit a sound wave where the high frequency will
periodically be reinforced by the low frequency wave.
By the way, about sound in vacuo, he says that it is inaudible because the
molecular volume of the emitted corpuscules is reduced. Even gaseous
molecules resonate and are sensitive to all sounds (both accordant and
discordant).
-------------------
Another message around 1 Jul:
Keely also tried to develop an engine based on the Neutral center
principle (to run on aetheric force) but he never found a medium
for inducing a neutral centre. However, he built a Vibratory engine
by trying to form a circuit that has a neutral center excited by
his vibratory ether (whatever that means). It was claimed to be
independent of mass (by reason of his high frequency. (the mass was
a globe: I think that it was another name for his Globe engine or
generator).
One of his statement was also that the foundations of the universe
rest on a vacuum point much smaller than a molecule, an
inter-etheric point. And more strangely, to look down into the
depths of an etheric center is the same as searching into heaven's
ether to find the end, but with one difference: one is the positive
field and the other is negative. (This is somewhat as reported by
mystics: that the big looks like the small).
In comparing the density of the atmosphere with his ether flow, he
says that air is to aether as platinum is to hydrogen gas. The
luminiferous ether corresponds to his inter-aetheric level of mass
aggregation and would correspond (according to his speculation) to
the vibratory envelope of all atoms.
Another strange but noteworthy statement is that sound would be a
substance (inter-atomic particles) emanating from a body (induced
by percussion, as in a bell) at 1120 feet per second, and 20,000
feet per second in vacuo. (According to modern science, sound does
not travel in vacuo). This sound would permeate all substances
within range of the tuning forks. If a vacuum chamber were sealed
and strong enough, a bell being constantly rung inside would build
up pressures of many thousands of pound per square inch. Sound
would be defined as disturbance of an atomic equilibrium, rupturing
atomic corpuscules, and the liberated substance had to be a certain
order of etheric flow. All bodies are formed from this thin ether
and they only return to that gaseous condition when brought out of
equilibrium.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 104587, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 01-Jul-93 22:21
I may repeat myself because of the long time since the beginning of the
topic but here it is anyway.
Keely grouped his vibrations in 3 modes:
1. Radiative: also called Dispersing, Propulsive, Positive, Enharmonic.
Controls the molecular level of mass aggregation.
2. Focalizing: also called Negative, Negative attractive, Polarizing and
Harmonic. Controls the Atomic level of mass aggregation.
3. Dominant: also called Etheric or Celestial. Controls the Etheric level of
mass aggregation.
Each of these modes is a current that exists in every flow of force and
expressed in thirds. The relation of the 3 are respectively 33 1/3, 66 2/3
and 100.
Neutral attraction, neutral affinity, negative attraction, and polar
negative attraction all describe the property of a mode of vibration to
direct its component towards the neutral center.
Every form of material aggregation is a neutral center of attraction where
are three modes are held in sympathetic coincidence. This suspends the
radiating or propulsive expresion of matter, what Keely considered as a
latent force.
Every mass being made of vibrations by proportions of third, it follows that
every mass is also in relation to every other mass.
Keely modifies the relations of the current flow by striking the same chord
in 3 octave: the 3rd, the 6th and the 9th of the scale. The 3rd represents
the dominant which, under control of a harmonic resonant impulse, rearranges
the modes and transform the matter. Keely devoted most of his latest
research. The 6th reduces the range of molecular vibrations and bring the
neutral centers closer to each others, thus stabilizing the matter. The 9th
extends the range of molecular vibrations and shrinks the mass. It induces
"trajectile velocity" and forms neutral centers.
All vibrations exert an effect over a limited distance called sympathetic
outreach of the current flows.
Equilibrium is also never perfect so the chord of mass of matter is
constantly changing.
When subject to a vibration, the range of molecular vibrations varies in
different substance. In silver, gold and platina, the proportions are 3:6:9.
This is also the relation between the modes of vibrations thus a wire made
of these metals is the best to transmit "concordant impulses". I don't
understand how, but nodes mades of these placed upon a wire, transmitting
resonant vibrations, indicate the rate of oscillations of the atomic
constituents.
Rotation can also be imparted from the harmonic interaction of the dominant
(3rd) and enharmonic (9th) elements of flow: the 1st and 3rd, the 3rd and
9th , etc. where the proprtions are 33 1/3 : 100.
To accomplish rotation by molecular vibratory action, you solve it by
control of either the negative attractive or the enharmonic current of the
triple flow.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 105913, * No Replies *
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 06-Jul-93 21:13
In the case of water desintegration, Keely described the effects of each
harmonics as follows:
3rd: Molecular dissociation, i.e. separating water into hydrogen and oxygen.
6th: separating the hydrogen and oxygen into a new element by a second order
of dissociation. Keely calls that Low Atomic Ether. Maybe that is another
name for atomic Oxygen (and Hydrogen), the type of free radicals that you
see in space and that affects or corrode satellites paint.
9th: the low atomic ether is separated into a new element which he calls the
high or second atomic harmonic.
Another book covered Keely's theories under a format of 40 laws: "Dashed
Against the Rock" published in 1894. It was a metaphysical novel, the jist
of the story is a young establishment scientist who is led through stages to
the acceptance of the vibratory laws as governing mental science.
The book "A Breakthrough to New Free Energy Sources" by Dan A. Davidson is
said to have a good condensed story of Keely's work. (I don't have a copy
though)
Some additional bits of info which may be useful in reverse engineering
Keely's theories:
-------------
Atomic pitch can be determined from its associate spectrum with all other
atoms, as in known spectra. Pitches are supposed to be more important than
atomic weight to work with.
Electricity and magnetism produce internal vibrations in the atom, followed
by proportional changes in volume (and pitch).
Amplitude of oscillations increase proportionally with temperature and the
atoms absorbs higher harmonics, expands volume and decrease in pitch. The
approach of a temperature ideal for harmonic combination is observed by
comparing superposed spectra: chemical combination commences when the
fundamental lines of each spectrum have harmonic ratios (by linear
measurements).
Atoms whose atomic pitches are in harmonic ratiso unite to form molecules.
By raising the pitch (by temperature or otherwise), the atoms separate.
A table of refractive indices of substances indicates their molecular pitch.
Pressure and tension are also supposed to have an effect but it is not clear
as to what pressure and tension it applies to.
------------------
An atomole is an elementary unit of matter. They all are uniform in size and
weight. Exists in all phases of matter.
Aether is the atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel.
Each atom is composed of 3 atomoles. In a negative atom, there are 3
positive (as activity) atomoles, in a positive atom, there are 3 atomoles, 2
of which are negatives, and the other positive.
Keely also thought that the human brain could also control the triple flow
of forces to make them all equal, thereby stopping dissociation or aging,
and preventing the body to be affected by other disturbances. (Maybe that is
what happens with the people who walk on burning coals.)
Note that the triple currents have very specific phase relationships.
Optimally, they all have the same amplitude but are harmonics of each
others. In reality, the amplitudes vary a bit due to temperature changes and
other influences.
----------------------------------------
Well, I have finally completed my expose. Will upload whole thing into a
single file for discussion. (Hope I did not lose anything!)
From: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 # 106386, 1 Reply
To: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 Date: 08-Jul-93 00:22
I have been going over the different pieces of the Keely information which
you have so diligently collected and posted and now are going to upload in
a file(s). I commend you on your efforts.
I, however, am having something of a problem with Keely's stuff. The
theories espoused by Keely are so alien to anything I am familiar with
that it is hard to know where to start when analysing his material.
Clearly, some of what he says is from experimental evidence but a lot must
be his conjecture based on what he saw, irrespective of any established
(in his day) physical laws. I guess the trick is to ferret out the
experimental data from the rest and try to repeat his experiments. I am
really at a loss to know what to do with positive and negative atomoles
and the rest.
If one was to try to duplicate a Keely experiment or effect where would
you suggest that they start? Maybe by subjecting water to 600+/- Hz
acoustic/electronic vibration in a container with a relatively simple
geometry? I say simple geometry so that the resonance properties of the
container as it may or may not affect the outcome of the experiment can be
analysed/computed.
From: Alain Beaulieu/SL9 70403,3645 # 106610, 1 Reply
To: Jonathan Eagle 72257,2270 Date: 08-Jul-93 22:17
I have started to edit the captured thread. I just hope that DOSCIM did
not skip any messages in its retrieval. You might want to check the file
that I will upload to see if all my exposes are in there. I will probably
upload it late tomorrow and it should be available in the library by
Sunday (if things go well). That will also make many people current enough
to discuss the topic with us.
>>Keely theories are so alien to anything I am familiar with<<
You bet! That's why I selected that topic in case someone could help
further.
>>the trick is to ferret out the experimental data from the rest and try
to repeat his experiments<<
Yes. But as you could see, this sort of description is lacking in the
texts. And I was also disappointed that he did not seem to have had
patents.
>>simple experiment<<
Yes. I guess trying the 600 HZ (or around that) on water would be one of
the simplest one. I don't see how the shape of a container could affect
the electrical vibrations though (as much as the acoustical ones would)
[Afterthought: you could also try to reproduce the Tibetan levitation
although you would need quite many sound generators]
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