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4 weeks of messages on the MRA (Magnetic Resonance Amplifier)
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From: Chris Flamig - 01/16/95 - FlamigNet - Grand Island, Ne - USA To:
ALL
This is as close to an exhaustive compiliation that I can achieve with
my limited resources, of the message base concerning the Magnetic
Resonance Amplifier, as found on KeelyNet-BBS, As of 01/16/1995 0:00
hrs.
A number of pertanant messages won't be found here, as I did not have
access to those folders, these are according to Joel McClain as
follows:
Messages: 9626, 9632, 9634, 9658, 9664, 9704, 9712, 9772, 9800, and
9801.
While some effort has been made to make the layout of the messages a
little more readiable, very little editing as been done, misspelling
were left as found, etc. Editing was mostly in layout... for use in
Windows Writer default margins using Arial 10 font, however it should
be veiwable in any text document viewer/editor.
I've compilied this set of messages pertaining to the MRA, in the
hopes that it will save everyone else, alot of the time and expense
involved in doing the screen capturing from the Non-stop Read mode of
the message base. And because I wanted to have all of this in one
package for easier local scanning.
I hope, you all find this useful, and enlightening. Someday, this
first month's worth of traffic on this device's development will aid
future historians in the search for enlightenment about things past.
God speed.... Chris Flamig
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Message 8832 DATE/TIME: 10/09/94 16:22 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Piezo Test Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Jerry,
You remember those piezo's that you got from Tanners'? I've been
testing one of them, and have seen an "anomalous" effect, so maybe
some of the other experimenters will try. I put one of the piezos on
the top of a CB antenna, and connected the antenna to a square wave
generator. I tuned the generator until the piezo started to "sing",
and put a 'scope on it. At 7480Hz, the peak sine wave output from the
piezo is 8 volts at 37430Hz. In other words, frequency is being
multiplied by a factor of 5.00 times, and voltage is going from
millivolts of radiated signal to eight volts peak to peak. More
interesting is that when the piezo is resonated at 37430Hz, the output
goes up be 50 times to 400 volts.
If this can be duplicated, we may have a way to use piezos to convert
earth's naturally occuring background radiation into useful energy.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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What follows here is, as far as I can tell, the complete message base
from KeelyNet, pertaining to the MRA as of 01/16/95 1:00am -- Chris
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Message 9750 DATE/TIME: 12/07/94 23:41 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY Subject: (R) Tetrahedron Coil Folder : D,
"Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Gerald,
Like your idea for the spinning magnetic field. 3-phase has a lot of
possibilities with tet design. Building it as you describe, but
instead of connecting the "Y" commons to ground, connect them to a
common center tap (neutral center) of the three delta windings, and
you will maintain all of the energy within the tet. If you use hollow
cores for the tet frame, you will be building coils which can be
resonated for power gains of 300% per coil X three coils, plus the
delta, which with its center tap is a series of Tesla tertiaries.
Determine the length and O.D. of the frame tubes, gage of wire to be
used and # of turns, and then you can determine the resonant freq. If
you calculate a resonant freq. that is equal to ferroresonance, ie,
175KHz +/- 5KHz, you will have a very powerful interferometer, and
probably the first of its kind...that we know of, anyway.
Stand back when you first tune it!
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9771 DATE/TIME: 12/09/94 13:32 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Magnet as Battery Folder : A, "Public Mail"
...just some ideas...please share your thoughts.
Using Gerald's analogy of visualizing a spring in compression and
expansion at the same time, I'm trying to understand magnets. I think
of magnets as batteries which we don't know how to "connect" to, yet.
Magnetizers electrically "slam" material with capacitive discharges.
Material is energy is "solid" form. The "slam" compresses and expands
the energy/material, resulting in an imbalance. The "outside"
continues to try to compress while the "inside" is trying to expand.
That may be why magnets fracture so easily, and why each chip, as in a
hologram, retains all of the characteristics of the whole. A magnet is
in a constant state of trying to collapse into itself, which is why it
attracts ferrous materials which match the patterns of its own lattice
structure.
The "domains" of a magnet are each holographic miniatures of the whole
magnet, held together by the molecular structure of the magnetized
material. When a domain flips, as in the VTA, it reverses the
compression/expansion, releasing electrons from the material. Sweet
has learned how to "connect the battery"... just reverse the process
of magnetization slowly, and collect the electrons that are released
via sympathetic vibration. Even if you could collect just the amount
of energy that is contained in the expansion/compression, without any
of the catalyst electrons, magnets would be excellent, rechargable
power sources.
The problem is that the amount of power needed to "excite" the domain
structures of most magnets exceeds the power out. That is why it is
important to find magnetic resonance as a method of "tripping" the
domains into a controlled energy expansion. All domains, regardless of
the type of magnet, respond to 175KHz, indicating that they all share
the same lattice structure. This is a start, but it is not the
"aggregate". Maybe acoustic vibration at the cavity resonance of a
magnet would also "loosen" the domains, if it were in phase with the
electrical resonance signal. Maybe the resonances have to be applied
from within the magnet to reverse the externally applied force which
created the original imbalance. A round, hollow magnet...like earth,
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Message 9807 DATE/TIME: 12/11/94 23:04 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Magnetic Resonance Amplifier Folder : D, "Special Associates
Area Alpha"
Today, to test the validity of the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier, or AC
Battery, either name "works", Norman Wootan and I applied a signal
amplitude to the circuit which would "trip" the components into a
higher level of output. The actual measurements, including power
gains, will be included in a file to be uploaded with a schematic.
However, the circuit design is so simple that many people can build it
from a written description. It only has two parts. The power gain is
between 300-400%, and increases as the load is increased.
The theory of operation can wait until the file is written. For now,
if you want to build it, just connect a piezo in series with a primary
coil that is wrapped around a barium ferrite magnet. Connect the
secondary to a bridge rectifier, and the bridge to a DC load. Apply a
signal level AC to the piezo, and adjust the frequency for the peak DC
voltage.
You will find that the AC voltage across either the piezo or the
primary is greater than the voltage from the signal generator. Primary
current is virtually nil due to the piezo, and DC output power is
several times the input power. Today, we measured 0.685W in, with
2.75W out. We used this to run a DC motor which consumed 2.5W, and to
light a DC lamp very brightly. This is hard output DC. As we increased
the potential from the sig gen, current dropped even lower, and output
power increased, which improved the power gain ratio.
Norm and I plan to exhibit this at the next KeelyNet meeting. If you
have any questions before the file is created, please address them to
either me or to Norm. We worked together on this, and it took the
symmetry of both of us to get it into operation. We think that it can
make a difference.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9812 DATE/TIME: 12/12/94 07:22 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
This morning I went back through the message base to pull out the
thread of our research on this magnetic resonance amplifier. It is
interesting to note how everything is entertwined and related when you
try to sit back and determine how we arrived at this turning point.
We began this "odsey" back playing with the Perkins Rotory Pump and
your message #9490 "Water Dissociation" useing the barium titanate
transducer.
Think about the severe shock you got last night when you grabed the
transducer running at free resonance around 40KHZ and putting out 300
volts. You were getting dissociation of water for it goes right back
to "Puharich" and the Danart1 file ala Keely. We followed this line of
investigation into the "scalar" test of the center tapped Tesla coil
and were successful in duplicating the Russian single transmission
line "scalar" effect.
Then enter the Neiper Ring, where we got into the antigravity aspects
of this circuit which led to the investigation of the resonating of
the silicone in the transistors, "crystaline lattice" resonance. This
led to the idea of creating "virtual rotation" of the crystaline
lattices in magnetic fields which were also in resonant vibration (
compound resonances). Startring to sound like Keely ?
Enter the Tetrahedron coil which gives "virtual rotation" and "scalar"
effects. The Neiper ring is the key piece that triggered the main line
of investigation the way I see it. There are 54 messages that flew
around among several folks out there that "proded" the grey matter
into action.
I guess the key to the puzzle was your discovery of the basic
"ferromagnetic resonant frequency" that could be used to unlock the
energy that is locked into permanent magnets. I realy like the line of
conversation that we had last night re- the idea of a car that ran on
our permanent magnetic "pile" which over a year of operation would
slowly deplete the magnetism of the "pile and all you had to do was
pull into a service station where an attendant would plug into the
pile a capacitive discharge unit and re-magnitize the "pile to full
strength and away we could go for another year of free driving.
I can't help but go back to Dan Davidson's book on the "Theta" devices
that he was researching where the barium ferrite in these devices
would "sacrifice" over a long period to provide the energy that we
were enjoying.
Since we are useing the magnetic material as a gate-way or "flux gate"
to the ZPE or Space Background Vaccuum then we simply recharge the
magnet when it becomes depleted. I think Hal Puthoff will be proud of
this one for it directly verifies all his theories of the tapping of
the Space Vaccuum Energy.
I guess we need now to select the messages that made this entire line
of research culminate in the results that we now see as real ZPE
tapping.
Thoughts, ideas ??
PS: Credit is certainly due to the central figure that "lurks" behind
all this, "John Keely"
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9822 DATE/TIME: 12/12/94 14:05 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of MRA.ZIP Folder : A, "Public Mail"
This is the MRA device, ascii file and pcx schematic.
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MRA.ASC Online Date :12/13/94 Contributed by : Joel McClain Dir
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The following requires the file MRA.GIF also on KeelyNet. The file
MRA.ZIP contains both this file MRA.ASC and the image MRA.GIF.
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***** Please NOTE!!*****
This is a preliminary report that will be followed by updates with
more detail. Future versions will include various measurements of the
components used in the ciruit that is currently running. From all
appearances at this date, the circuit components will simply give
varying outputs and do not appear to be all that critical.
It was felt that this information should be released to the public as
rapidly as possible, rather than risk loss of the information or the
demo by 'circumstances' beyond our control.There have been too many
discoveries which have disappeared by not being openly shared. We
would rather risk being 'flamed' by other experimenters who actually
BUILD THE CIRCUIT than take the chance of the information being lost
by keeping it within a select group.
Our two primary fears are that someone will attempt to patent what is
intended to be a gift to humanity, possibly with an intent to profit
from others work or to lock it away, the other that it might be
suppressed in some other fashion.
Therefore, the widest possible distribution is requested, and
duplication attempted wherever possible.At the time of this correction
to the original file, we have confirmation as to the numbers and
others are working on the circuit on their own. Please take this
information in the spirit of how it is given, as a gift to humanity.
The inventors are Joel McClain and Norman Wootan. You can contact them
via KeelyNet or directly.
The circuit is being tested at various levels and attempts at
duplication are under way.At this point, there is only one circuit. We
will openly post other successful duplications or failures. Please
feel free to try it yourself. The cost is minimal.
One other point, the crystal transducer was thought to be barium
titanate and there is reason to believe it is in fact titanium
zirconate.These are disc shaped, about 3" in diamter with a 1"
diameter hole in the center.The disc is about 3/8" thick and is coated
with silver on both sides.Thank you for your open-mindedness. They are
advertised in the back of many electronics magazines for about $5
each. We have access to a small stock and might offer them for
experiments should people ask for them.
Good luck and SEIZE THE DAY!
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The Magnetic Resonance Amplifier (MRA)
Discovered and proven December 12, 1994 and shared with the world on
December 13, 1994
by Joel McClain and Norman Wootan
MRA is the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier.With low level ultrasonic
input signals, the MRA produces usable direct current power at levels
above unity. This circuit is based upon the work and theories of John
Ernst Worrell Keely, and is offered into the public domain in his
memory.
Without lengthy discussion about the ether, tetrahedral geometric
virtual rotation, mass aggregate resonance or the rule of nines, it is
possible to understand this circuit as basically a tuned magnetic and
quartz amplifier.
However, it WAS necessary to study those subjects in order to design
and build the MRA, so if you want to fully realize how it works, avail
yourself of the files on KeelyNet which contain all of that and much,
much more.
In the schematic, MRA.GIF, there is a tunable low power oscillator,
which supplies a signal to one side of a barium titanite
transducer.The opposite side of the transducer is connected to a
primary coil, which is wrapped around a barium ferrite magnet core.The
opposite end of the primary goes back to the oscillator.
A secondary is wrapped around the primary, and is connected to an
ordinary bridge rectifier, and the output of the bridge is applied to
a DC load.A filter capacitor can be used on the output of the bridge,
and was used on the MRA which we built.Additionally, a load resistor
across the capacitor will keep the output DC from getting too high as
the circuit is tuned.We found that a 30 ohm, 10 watt resistor was
sufficient.
Once this has been assembled, put a voltmeter across the output
resistor to monitor the voltage rise as the circuit is tuned. Adjust
the oscillator frequency to provide the highest DC output. During this
process, be aware that the voltages across the piezo and the coil will
be VERY MUCH HIGHER than the signal level which you are applying.We
have seen combined voltages of almost 1000VAC with only 30VAC of
signal input.
When the circuit is tuned, the magnet will be "singing" at around 8000
to 11000Hz.If the piezo sings, you are exceeding its power
capabilities, and will need to reduce the number of turns on your
primary.The frequency that resonates both the piezo and the magnet at
optimum resonance will be three times (three octaves above) the
frequency at which the magnet is singing. This is the nine harmonics
that are mentioned in the Rule of Nines.
To test the circuit, place a precision, high wattage, low ohm resistor
in series with the output from the oscillator to the piezo, and
measure the voltage drop.It should be very small, less than 0.1VAC.Use
this value to determine current in the series circuit, and then
calculate power.
Next, measure the DC voltage across your output load resistor, and
once again calculate power.You should be between three to four times
above the previously calculated input power.
Once the circuit is in operation, you will note that the voltage will
vary by 0.1VDC or more, depending upon the time of day. This is due to
the nature of etheric forces inherent to the earth's magnetic field.
Watch for peak voltage at or before sunrise.
In our circuit, we measured 0.084VAC drop across a two ohm series
resistor, for a total of 0.685W dissipation in the primary. With this,
we attained 2.75W of output power, and used this to drive a lamp and a
motor. Increasing the signal voltage had the effect of decreasing the
primary current while boosting output power, thus improving the power
gain ratio. We believe that larger power systems can be built by using
larger coils, more piezos, and a lower frequency, as long as the
aggregate combination is within the resonant frequency range of the
components.
The MRA is essentially a means of releasing the electrical energy
stored in magnets. As such, it is an AC battery with DC output. It can
be used for a portable, self-charging power supply with a solid state
oscillator and rechargable battery. For those who want a synopsis of
the technology, the following paragraphs are offered, but it is
strongly suggested that you follow up this reading with a more
thorough study of the KeelyNet files.
Matter = energy. To change the matter, change the energy. Creating of
a magnet achieved by a process which causes the matter to be both
expanded and compressed at the same time, with the result that a
magnet is in a constant state of collapse. This is why magnets attract
material with similar lattice structures, as they attempt to fill the
energy void which created them. The "domains" of the magnet are fixed
after the process of magnetization, and the only way to extract
electrical energy is to physically spin a coil relative to a magnet.
However, it is also possible to induce virtual rotation by applying
the resonant frequency of the magnet, which causes the lattices and
the domains to vibrate. However, the power required to do this is
greater than the energy released by the virtual rotation. Therefore,
it is necessary to increase the vibration without using excessive
current.
The piezo has a virtually inexhaustable supply of free electrons, and
it releases them when it is stressed. Using the piezo in series with
the primary coil will almost eliminate primary current, because it is
voltage which stresses the piezo, not current. Therefore, the piezo
can be stressed with very little actual power, and provide the current
to the primary coil, which vibrates the domains of the magnet.
The piezo is the catalyst for the circulating current with the primary
coil. The circulating current is additive, and this is the reason for
the high potentials developed across both the piezo and the primary
coil.
It is at this point that resonance becomes important.You MUST have
three octaves of separation between the magnet resonant frequency and
the signal applied to the piezo. The circulating current is rich in
harmonics, and this is necessary for the operation of the circuit.
Although the circuit is simple, it utilizes the concepts of PHI, of
virtual rotation, of tetrahedral geometry, piezo and transformer
theory, and electrical knowledge. It is not suggested as a beginner
project as a result of the high voltages present.For engineers and
technicians of experience, it may be difficult to accept that the MRA
is above unity.The ramifications are emormous.Hopefully, it will help
to build a better world.
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Vangard Note
This device incorporates power multiplication principles using
multiple resonances as claimed by Keely and Hendershott.It also
corresponds in some ways with Floyd Sweet's VTA and Joe Parr's energy
spheres from pyramids.
Joel called Sunday night in an excited state.He and Norman took turns
explaining what they had achieved using this circuit. The power input
measurements were about 600mWatts and yet the circuit was generating
about 2.5 Watts on the output.Norman hooked up a DC motor and he said
it was spinning like crazy in addition to a light bulb glowing
brightly.
Norman was laughing and said they'd beat Harold Puthoffs' One Watt
Challenge as issued at the 1994 ISNE conference in Denver. This has
created quite a bit of excitement and Puthoff now has a FAX'd copy of
the circuit. No doubt it will be everywhere in a very short time. The
hope by Joel and Norman is that others will duplicate the initial
effect and be able to expand on it to derive useful power.
Sweet claimed something on the order of 1:3,000,000 over-unity.The
input power to his device was 10 VAC at 29uamps (290mWatts). The
output had been loaded to as high as 3,000 Watts.
The initial MRA circuit is something on the order of 1:5 and is
believed to be scalable.Joel says the coil he had wound around the
barium ferrite magnet was not in the least precision and he is of the
mind that a huge coil surrounding the magnet will produce a
proportional increase in power.
Early talks with various KeelyNetters about the Sweet circuit led many
of us to believe that Barium, when excited, rings for a long time when
the exciter is removed.At the ISNE conference, Don Watson confirmed
this with his analogy of glowing luciferase as found in fireflys or
other phosphorescent materials.A weak stimulation continues to produce
light for a time after the stimulation is removed.
So, here is a wonderful opportunity to build a pioneering device. If
you have questions or suggestions, you may direct them to Joel McClain
or Norman Wootan at KeelyNet.
I think they both need to be commended for their willingness to share
what many would keep proprietary or die with the secret
.............>>>Jerry
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Message 9850 DATE/TIME: 12/13/94 09:31 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: MRA Input Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For those who plan to build their own MRA, you will have to use sine
wave signal wave input. I've tried square wave, and although the
magnet will "sing", the output DC power will be below unity. I believe
this is because the circuit can't "breathe" evenly with square wave
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Message 9875 DATE/TIME: 12/13/94 19:23 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
ALL Subject: MRA "Tech Bulletin" Folder : A, "Public Mail"
If you build your own MRA, there are a few things that you should know
that aren't in the file yet...they're still being discovered.
First of all, don't wear your quartz watch while you work on the
MRA,as the quartz will react with the circuit and run slow. Secondly,
avoid using scopes for anything except occasional waveform checks,
because there is so much flux in the air that it will buildup on the
scope and skew your display.
Thirdly, use a hand-heletr as opposed to a panel meter if you can
because the flux buildup on a panel meter chassis will destroy the
front end transistors... I know, as I did it.
Fourth, the constant ringing will drive you nuts and give you a
head-ache in short order.
Fifth, if you take the piezo out of the circuit after it has been on
for a while, as it cools, it will keep building up charges, and will
bite you when you pick it up.
Sixth, if the piezo screeches, shut the MRA down and wait for a while
before you start it up again. The piezos are bad tempered if you
overdrive them, and will sulk for a while before they work right.
This ain't your daddy's oldsmobile...we're still learning to drive it
so there may be more of these "field bulletins".
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9876 DATE/TIME: 12/13/94 20:00 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : BILL
BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill: Point well taken. We will prove out the circuit and you will
know by the message traffic as to our progress. We all value your
input and guidance therefore jump in and help us out as we sort this
beast out.
I have a very similar circuit to Joel's and we compare notes
constantly. I wound a coil on a barium ferrite magnet with my windings
running parallel to the "bloch wall" where Joel's coil has the
windings running perpendicular to the "bloch wall". My I/O ratio so
far as I can determine is around 12:1 which is some improvement but we
need testing.
Bert Pool just left to go and build a similar circuit so the more
folks that build, test and improve on the design the better.
Thanks again.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9879 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 00:10 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : JEFF PANICI Subject: (R) Piezo pooped out Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Jeff,
Actually, the piezo is titanium zirconate...that was a blooper.
And, all of the materials are from the "gadget god" himself, Norman
Wootan.
I have no idea where hw fets this stuff, I'm just extremely glad that
he does!
Joel
cc: Norman Wootan
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Message 9882 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 08:17 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA (Tech Bulletin) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Since Joel and I have created a lot of interest in the MRA device we
will place everything on line so that no "stone is left unturned".
Long ago I saw a sci-fi movie of a suitcase size device that you could
plug any size AC load into it and it would power it with no problem. I
dreamed of building such a device by imploying a block of natural
quartz with a mechanical oscillator attached to all faces (Tesla
oscillator) to force the quartz to yield free electrons. I envisioned
the output (high voltage) to be stored in a capacitor bank (1 kilo
joule) them the output going into an inverter circuit and stepdown
transformer to take this piezo generated voltage down to a useful AC
voltage.
Now Joel and I have combined this effect to the resonating of the
lattice structure of a magnet to sum the outputs of the piezo effect
and the ferro-resonant effect to give an over-unity total at the
bridge rectifier.
Last night Bert Pool came over to gather up the needed supplies to
build a prototype circuit to do independent evaluation. After I had
run the circuit through the paces noting the outputs and thoroughly
discussing what we thought was going on here I turned off the meters,
scopes and the signal generator and finally went to bed.
Well I woke up a 2:00AM with a headache, went to get the tylenol and
went into the room with the test rig on the bench. I turned on the
frequency counter and found that the circuit was running in free
oscillation with no input. Although no power was being produced the
free running oscillations were filling my living space with a high
freq ultrasonic squeal that as Joel has warned will give you a migrane
headache in short order.
The free oscillation was around 44KHZ with the freq counter ranging up
and down (no lock on). I had to take the circuit apart to stop the
ultrasonic ringing. As Joel has pointed out these titanium zirconate
transducers, once set into resonance will continue to ring for a long
period.
Since there is possible some conditioning taking place within the
crystaline structure of the material I believe that over a long
conditioning period (burn in time) the whole circuit can be make
sensitive to a combination of two frequencies that are necessary. The
first freq involved is the input to drive the transducer which has to
be 3 octaves down from the fundamental natural frequency of the
ferro-magnetic resonant frequency.
Although it has not been mentioned before in "A" public on this net,
Joel and I were successful in isolating and identifying the
fundamental Ferromagnetic Resonant Frequency as being around 174.9
KHZ. Dosen't it sound ironic that this freq should fall so close to
what the Corums have determined that Tesla designed his big coil out
in Colorado springs around? I have read several articles that
speculated that the ferromagnetic freq or the earth natural magnetic
field resonated around 180KHZ. With this 174.9 freq in mind we have
applied the Joel McClain "Rule of Nines" to the circuit where we run
the transducer at a freq that is a multiple of the fundamental 174.9
ferroresonant freq. His circuit is running at a fifth and mine is
running at a third.
Example- I input a sine wave signal at 2.28 V AC into the series
resonant circuit at 59070HZ and get a voltage developed across the
transducer of 26.04V and a voltage across the coil of 24.02 with an
output voltage from the bridge rectifier of 30.2 V DC. If every thing
is running in an ideal phase relationship (transducer oscillations and
ferro-coil oscillations) then the beat freq will partially sum the two
voltages since they are in a series circuit and set up a circulating
current in the primary which when the primary winding and the
secondary windings have the proper impedance matching will extract the
maximum amout of energy from the circulating current in the
transformer into a healthy output at the bridge which is far
OVER-UNITY, high I/O ratio. My circuit is showing a 13:1 ratio at this
time and I have not even approached a good impedance match in the
windings.
A real sharp RF engineer could sort all the details out in short
order. I don't profess to be an RF engineer but have a good background
in electronics. This is the reason for Joel and I going "PUBLIC
DOMAIN" with the circuit so that some highly skilled folks out there
can take this circuit and help develope it into something of practical
use. We don't want PROFIT motivated people to "rip" off the idea for
self gain. We want any potential benefits of the circuit to remain
free for the taking.
More notes as we learn more. As Joel says, "we are like teanagers
learning to drive dads olds". A little help from interested fellow
researchers is welcome.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9883 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 09:19 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA (Tech Bulletin) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
In our discussion of the MRA circuit we keep referring to the key part
of the circuit as being a transducer. Let me clarify this a litle for
I know there are a lot of folks out there who will be running around
looking for that same device that we have.
First let's settle the confusion about the type of material involved.
Jerry Decker and I bought some of these devices from Tanner
Electronics here in Dallas and were told that they were BARIUM
TITANATE transducers made for the ultra-sonic heads in the ultra-sonic
welders used in the plastics industry. There are numerous
manufacturers of such welding devices in which they stack these
devices (each rated at 50 Watts) to get the total power needed to weld
plastic by kinetic contact heating.
A physical description is: 2 inch outside diameter round eith a 5/8 th
inch hole through the center with a thickness of 3/16 th inch with
silver layered on each side which is convenient for soldering leads to
the transducer.
When employing these units they have to be suspended to that they are
free to resonate. Don't lay them on a table or surface for this will
dampen the free oscillations. We have not consulted an acoustical
engineer to determine the best way to mount the units or attach the
I/O leads so as to provide the optimum free resonances. We have
discussed the employment of tuned pipes of the proper wave length
ratios needed to enhance the free resonant or targeted resonance that
we desire. I have even thought of a mechanical type of tuning fork
device that would give us the Tesla described "CHILD ON THE SWING"
type drive that would give the maximum output with the least possible
input (wattage I/O). A good microwave engineer would possibly come up
with a tuned cavity resonator which would drive the transducer at the
optimum phase to extract the energy needed to drive the
ferro-rersonant coil in the primary.
The magnet that Joel is useing is from an IBM hard drive and is as
follows: 7 inches long X 2 inches X 2 inches with the magnetic "Bloch
wall" across the thickness. For those out there who may never heard
the term "Block wall" it means the neutral plane in a magnet. The
magnetic orientation is across the thickness of the magnetic therefore
cannot be described as a bar magnet which has it's magnetic
orientation along the long axis. By useing a magnet which has the flux
across the thickness and the windings are wound around the center of
the long axis we have a coil which is wound with half of the winding
turn in a "N" field and the other half of the turn in a "S" field.
Makes no difference since the objective here is to ring the magnet
into a resonant freq and it seems to me that it is easier to ring
(mechanically) with the ends of the long axis protruding from the
coil. In other words the "Node point" is under the coil with the free
ends oscillating. There are several ways to suspend a bar that is in
free resonance. All you have to do is open your door chime and look at
how the chime bar is mounted to extract the maximum acoustical energy
from the hammer strike. The same objective applies here so there is a
lot of work to be done to maximize this device. It is public so YOU
can help sort it all out.
Joel is useing 150 turns in the primary and secondary of his
ferro-magnetic transformer. Experimentation will provide the ideal
ratios and impedance matching. Get with the program and provide free
exchange of findings so all may benefit.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9884 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 09:54 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA (Tech Bulletin) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I forgot to clear up one important point ehich really means nothing or
maybe it is important. As I said Jerry Decker and I were told that the
Transducers were BARIUM TITANATE but thanks to Dan Davidson out in AZ
we're told that these transducers were infact TITANIUM ZIRCONATE.
I guess some of you can consult the manufactures of this equipment to
clear up this point. Branson is the largest builders of ultasonic
cleaners ans welders so there is a starting poin to nail down the
exact type of material we are dealing with. "Cross all the T's and Dot
all the I's"
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9886 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 12:15 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Power Test Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Did another test to determine the actual power gain of the MRA, this
time a resistive circuit equivalency test. Measurd the E drop with the
MRA in the path of the signal source, and substituted resistors for
the MRA until the drop was the same, and computed power.
The signal source dropped from 27.5 to 26 VAC with the MRA connected,
and it took 250 ohms of resistance to achieve the same drop. Power in
an AC circuit is E X I X PF, so 26 X .104 X .707 = 1.89W.
Measured DC power out is 22VDC X .14A = 3.08W, for a net gain of
1.19W, which still meets the "challenge", and ain't too bad all things
considered, sloppy coil winding, etc. Oh well, there's lots of
opportunity to improve it, now that the door is open.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9892 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 16:18 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: More Power, Igor! Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm,
Made a mistake (in the GOOD column) on the power test using resistor
equivalents. I didn't have the MRA powering a load at the time, and it
only drops the input by 0.6VAC when it is driving a load. That
measured at 350 ohms at 26.8VAC, for 0.076ma, which at .707 is 1.44W
consumption. With 3.1W DC output, it has a gain of 1.56W.
It didn't occur to me at the time that input power would DECREASE
under load, but that's how this bugger works.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9894 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 17:07 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: More power MRA Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Joel:
Remember the "golden rule" when dealing with "Hyperdeminsional"
physics- reverse think everything and you will be corect most of the
time. We need some new physics laws and rules to play by in this "new
arena".
I will be out your way after the traffic dies down from rush hour. You
need a back-up supply of transducers plus I picked up some neat
ferrite wound impedance matching transformers so we can play a little
matching game with the coil and transducer and also to isolate the
input oscillator from the series tank circuit.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9895 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 19:03 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA "On line" Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Bill:
Thanks a million for giving this project widest possible disemination
for Joel and I cannot find fault in our figures and we have had Hal
Puthoff involved therefore I agree whole heartedly in getting it out
so others can duplicate and improve on the fundamental theory.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9896 DATE/TIME: 12/14/94 21:01 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA "On line" Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Well-p, its out there all over the place now. I put notic on
alt.physics.new-theories, alt.inventors, sci.physics.fusion (CF)
alt.paranet.science, sci.skeptic, sci.electronics, rec.amateur.
radio.homebrew, and usa-telsa. Anyone with the slightest interest in
unconventional stuff will see the messages. The paper is on my WWW
page for downloading via lynx or mosaic, and I'm going to post it to
Compuserve NEWAGE forum library tonight.
Hope there's no mistakes! ;)
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Message 9907 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 07:34 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Titanium Zirconate Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
I just downloaded every thing for the week so I have not read it all
yet, but if you want very fine Titanium Zirconate, thats the stuff
Magic Cubes are made of surrounded by O2 with a magnesium coating on
their base for ignition.
"Flash of Light" = "Flash of Energy".
It burns at around 1700'C so becareful! More details when I get a file
off my home machine (Jerry did I ever upload a file called LITBOMB?) .
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Message 9908 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 08:27 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JEFF PANICI Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jeff:
I'm glad you have decided to build the device. If you will go back
into the message base and read #'s 9850, 9875, 9876, 9882, and 9883
most of your questions will have been answered. Jerry is going to
strip all the relevant message traffic that led up to the breakthrough
on this device (about 60 messages between our research group) and
place them in a file so all can download an study the approach to this
device.
Please download and study a file by Dan Davidson called DANART1. It is
excellent and will give you an insight into John Keely and his
approach to this research back in 1898.
I would love to has a copy of your data on the devices you mentioned.
I will be more than happy to share all info with all out there for
this whole project is "PUBLIC DOMAIN".
My address is NORMAN WOOTAN, P.O. Box 141049, Dallas, TX 75214.
Joel and I have been working on the Neiper Ring and have it showing
definite weight loss. We have some theories about this which is tied
back into the MRA device. It was the Neiper Ring that caused the MRA
to be looked at as a serious over-unity transformer.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9909 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 09:14 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA (Tech Bulletin) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I know that now that our circuit is distributed "World-wide" thanks to
Bill Beaty, we will be getting a million questions from every corner.
The well armed researcher will have done his or her homework and will
have dug into the Keely-Net files and learned as much as possible from
the numerous files on ENERGY and GRAVITY before asking questions.
There are several very important publications and articles that you
all should read to fully understand the fundamentals and principles of
operation of the MRA device.
First get TAPPING THE ZERO POINT by our dear friend MORRAY KING.
Second get and understand the series of books by one of the LEADING
EDGE researchers on free energy TOM BEARDEN.
Third you need to go to the library and look up the series of
excellent articles in PHYSICAL REVIEW by HAROLD PUTHOFF, BERNARD
HAISCH and ALFONSO RUEDA.
Fourth is a book by MARY and DEAN HARDY called PYRAMID ENERGY which
lays out the "sacred geometry" which is rebuffed by modern physics and
chemistry but through the underground research community is comming
back strong and will re-write the physics and chemistry books of the
future.
Nikola Tesla said that the publication of the "Theory of Relativity"
by Einstien was the greatest travesty that could have been commited
against mankind and would set the world back 100 years. It did just
that for all serious interest in the "energetic Aether" was disbanded
by the scientific world. Only recently has people like our friend TOM
BEARDEN gone back and resurected the work of MAXWELL who had it all
figured out along with JOHN KEELY and NIKLOA TESLA.
We are opening a new chapter in physics and chemistry so be prepared
to to new methods of measurement, new laws and terms to define what I
like to think of as "HYPERDIMENSIONAL PHYSICS". All of the answers are
out there for this ground has been tread on before only to be buried
and surpressed in many cases.
It won't happen this time around for we desperately need tomorrows
energy today.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9910 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 10:46 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA Test -- Shunt Version Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Tried the parallel tank version of the MRA, ie, piezo shunting the
primary, and it gives much higher power gain ratios, but is limited to
about 200mw at 5VDC. Above 5VDC, the piezo will screech and "run
open". However, the gain in the parallel version is over 50.
Also, in the "original recipe" MRA, the tuning of the circuit for best
gain, using the resistor equivalency test, will give you an output
voltage that is about 85-90% of the maximum possible. You can either
maximize, and have low gain, or optimize at lower output voltage for
higher gain. Sort of like the difference between turbo and overdrive
in a car. At optimum gain, there is 0.5VAC or less drop in the signal
source, and the equivalent ohms is around 700. That gives a current of
40ma, and rms power input under a watt, with 3 watts of DC at the
output.
Also, when you change load devices, you have to retune... first to the
max E, then at 85-90% below it for the optimum I/O ratio. After you do
this, the voltage will rise by itself as the harmonic content of the
circulating current builds up, which you can hear in the RPM change of
the motor that is being driven. Interesting how the harmonics "buck"
source current.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9911 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 12:15 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: More on the max. gain.. Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Forgot to mention, that when tuning the MRA for max. I/O power ratio,
when you adjust the freq. to reduce the output DC to 85%, the RMS AC
reading across the sig. source input becomes unstable... the meter
needle will quiver as the harmonics buck the input, and the piezos
squeak as they fight the input current, but that is where the best
gain ratio is. It's one thing to theorize, it's another to see the
meter struggling between the opposing currents.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9912 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 15:21 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: ANTICIPATION!!! Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm,
Sent a fax to Hal Puthoff describing the resistive load equivanency
and effective impedance test. Scott Little called to say that Hal is
in Houston, but that he (Scott) had read the fax and agreed to the
validity of the test method. Said he is very excited to get the MRA in
their lab and that they have a Hall Effect in-line test probe that
displays the phase relationship and series current on their
'scope...hell, why doesn't EVERYONE have one of those goodies! I'll
run right down to K-Mart and pick one up.
Anyway, it passes muster in terms of proper test methods with the
equipment that we have, and Scott agrees with our method, so as soon
as we ship it, we'll get the Word from Above. Scott said that they are
set up and waiting for it, and will start on it as soon as it arrives.
It was important to us that they not question the validity of our test
method, and Scott said that unless there is something very unusual
going on that we couldn't detect, that he and Hal will be coming here
to visit us in the near future. Are you having fun yet?
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9914 DATE/TIME: 12/15/94 16:45 From : BERT POOL To : ALL
Subject: Photostrictive material uses zirconate-t Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Science News, December 10, 1994 . Taking a walk on the lighter side .
Materials that change their shape - moving and bending controllably
after exposure to specific wavelengths of light - may make possible
new classes of communications devices. . Improvements in such
"photostrictive" materials, say Kenji Uchino of Pennsylvania State
University in University Park, are progressing to the point where "we
may soon see photo-driven relays, robots, and acoustic devices, which
will play a key role in the era of optical communication." .
Scientists first observed the photorestrictive effect 15 years ago,
when they first saw that light , especially in the purple region,
could cause certain ceramics to change shape, though not because of
thermal expansion. Subsequent research found that light energy creates
an electric field in the material, causing a deformation. . Uchino and
his collegues built a "photon-driven walking device." Make of a
lead-lanthanum zirconate-titanate ceramic doped with tungstan oxide,
the two legged walker creeps along a tabletop like an inchworm when
the legs are irradiated alternately with light at a wavelength of 366
nanometers. . "The alternating irradiation makes the legs bend,"
Uchino says. "It walks by remote control without any internal
circuitry." . The underlying mechanism of photostriction remains
unclear, adds Unchino, though he believes it arises from "some
combination of photovoltaic and piezoelectric effects." . Current
versions of photostrictive materials react relatively slowly to light.
Response times are speeding up, however, Uchino says. . Today's
telephones translate sound into electrical signals and back again.
Early in the next century, Uchino believes, photostrictive-based
"photophones" may convert laser light directly into sound, giving rise
to a new type of telephony. ----------------------------------------
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Message 9917 DATE/TIME: 12/16/94 06:31 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Titanium Zirconate Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
| | Well, Ok so much for my memory, thats what I get for | composing
messages on line with out look it up first. :-( | | Magicubes: | | The
light comes from a chemical combustion within the cube's | bulbs. Each
of the four bulbs contains several inches of wire | made of zirconium,
a flammable metal used in nuclear reactors. | This wire floats
unattached in an atmosphere of pure oxygen. | When the shutter clicks,
it raises a small plastic stick that | relases a spring inside the
magicube. The spring, in turn, | strikes a metal anvil in the cube's
base. Friction from this | impact ignites the phosphorous coating on
the anvil and sets the | zirconium on fire. Oxygen fuels the flame
immediately, producing | a flash of white light. Within only
25-thousandths of a second, | the flash is over. The blue coating on
the cube filters the | flash's light so that it simulates normal
daylight. | | Zirconium has a melting point of 1750`C. NEVER touch the
| cube as the flash is being set off. | | Interesting that Zirconium
is in all of these energy | reactions, Light, Nukes, and now the
MRA.... | ----------------------------------------
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Message 9924 DATE/TIME: 12/16/94 13:39 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Gremlins? Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
After showing the MRA at last night's meeting, I wanted to put
everything together and double check it today before sending it down
to Hal. It wouldn't work. Found that the piezo which we have been
using all this time was cracked. Put in another piezo, and it was
warming up well at 98% of unity, then it dropped off to 63% and
wouldn't come up. Tried another one and the audio amp died. All of the
setup is identical to what we've been doing...nothing different.
The first piezo was used for two days on low level sig gen output
before we put the audio amp on it, so that may be why the replacement
piezo weakened... putting it on the amp too soon may not condition it
slowly enough. There was nothing "special" that I could tell about
that first piezo. I'll keep working on it, and "cook" some more piezos
and find the problem with the amp... I'm glad that the people at the
meeting got to see it running last night. It may be a while before I
can figure out what happened and keep it from happening again. I'll
keep you posted.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9925 DATE/TIME: 12/16/94 14:35 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : BERT POOL Subject: (R) Photostrictive material uses zircona
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
| | BP> Today's telephones translate sound into electrical signals and
| BP> back again. Early in the next century, Uchino believes, | BP>
photostrictive-based "photophones" may convert laser light | BP>
directly into sound, giving rise to a new type of telephony. | |
"Direct-Photon detection Communications" NASA Tech Brief Summer | 1984
Vol. 8, No. 4, Item #28 JPL: NPO-15905/5361 | | "An optical
communications system under development is based on | direct detection
of phontons rather than on heterodyning of the carrier | with a local
oscillator. It is expected to transmit over 2.5 bits of | information
per photon, with its ultimate efficiency limited only by | background
noise." | | How about one based on J.S.Bell's theorem can do away with
the | cable then... :-) | ----------------------------------------
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Message 9930 DATE/TIME: 12/16/94 18:04 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Starting Over Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I'm breaking in another piezo. It's been on the sig gen for a few
hours. I have 1.33VAC at 34.2KHz from the sig gen, measuring current
in line. Current starts at 4ma, then slowly drops for about three
minutes until it gets down to just 1ma. Since the 1.33VAC is RMS,
input power to the MRA is 1.33mw. Output is 3.1VDC across 4.7K from
the decade box which calculates at 2.0mw. Since the meter is rated at
200KHz, I know that we are well within its range. Gain at this low
level of signal is 150%.
We will learn how to condition a piezo from this, which we can pass
along as another tech note. It looks like we have to start at the
leakage threshhold and work up in terms of power applied. It will take
a LOT of tests to keep from conditioning parts until they are just
barely marginal under useful load.
Oh well, nobody ever said it would be easy. The noise from the magnet
is amazing, even at low power.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9934 DATE/TIME: 12/16/94 22:18 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) Titanium Zirconate Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob!
Ahhh, flashcubes... I remember them well, we had some that were self
triggering, usually they come in groups of four, all capable of being
fired without the camera...haven't seen those in years, but they might
still be available.... interesting comment, yours about zirconium...
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Magnetic Resonance Amplifier description of operation by Joel McClain
The MRA is a series resonant LC circuit in which power gain is
attainable as a result of the increase in effective impedance under
certain operating conditions. When the series impedance increases,
primary current is reduced. When the power available from the
secondary coil either remains the same or increases as the primary
circuit impedance increases, a power gain occurs.
This is not possible with a series resonant circuit made of
conventional materials. Even unity power transfer is considered to be
unattainable as a result of accumulated losses in the components,
which are passive (reactive) devices. Materials and construction
methods are chosen for these components based upon the type of
application and frequency to be applied, with the goal of minimizing
losses.
A typical capacitor with polyethylene dielectric has a dielectric
constant of 2.3 times that of air. Air has a constant of 1.0, and is
the basis for comparison. Titanium dioxide, however, has a dielectric
constant maximum of 170, and a corresponding power factor of only
0.0006, comparable with polyethylene, so that the dissipation of
primary current in the dielectric is extremely low. This is where the
comparison ends, because the titanium composite "capacitor" is also a
piezoelectric device as well as an excellent capacitor.
Heat adversely affects the power factor of most dielectric materials.
Titanium zirconate, however, contains polar molecules which rotate as
thermal pressure is applied. This rotation increases the dielectric
constant if the frequency applied is equal to or lower than the
resonant frequency of the dielectric.
At series resonance, the rotation of polar molecules contributes to
heat; as the dielectric constant increases, a corresponding release of
free electrons occurs, as a direct result of the piezoelectric
properties of the device.
In application, the MRA is tuned at resonance for maximum power
transfer, then detuned slightly for maximum power gain. This relates
directly to the use of thermal pressure at resonance, and the effect
that this has on continued polar rotation and the release of donor
electrons.
The coil, or primary of the MRA is a magnetic core which, relative to
the fixed capacitance of the piezo, is a tuned permeability device.
This is often used in RF devices to attain a stable resonant
frequency. Magnetic materials are chosen based upon the operating
characteristics of the intended application to reduce eddy currents in
the operating range.
In these applications, the resonant frequency of the magnet itself is
avoided, as this would "beat" with the oscillating current. However,
in the MRA, this is the exact effect which we want.
The barium ferrite magnet resonates audibly at frequencies which are
harmonics of the series resonant frequency. The effect of this in a
typical audio application is called harmonic distortion, and is not
desirable, but once again, in the MRA, this is what we want to occur.
There is energy in the harmonics, and this energy serves to both
counter eddy losses as well as to oppose primary current flow, while
contributing to circulating current within the resonant circuit.
The net effect of this, is that when the MRA is detuned, harmonics of
the audible frequency "beat" with primary current, opposing its flow,
while the increase in circulating current couples more power to the
secondary, and therefore to the load. This is how the power gain is
attained, basically by considering the naturally occuring harmonics as
beneficial instead of as undesirable effects to be filtered out.
When the MRA is detuned, the effective impedance increases as seen by
the source, while the power available to the load decreases in less
proportion. This is measurable by using resistive equivalent circuit
testing. However, the detuning is load dependent, and slight
adjustments are required if the load requirement is greater than the
power band of a harmonic interaction.
After retuning, the power to the load will increase in quantum
intervals as the circulating current is reinforced by the reaction of
the permeable magnet core. This will be seen as slight incremental
voltage increases across the load device.
Once the magnet is "ringing", it's frequency and therefore harmonics
remain stable, as long as the series resonant range is not exceeded.
Therefore, the detuning affects the piezo only, and the circulating
current increase is a result of the phase relationship between the
harmonic and the source.
Voltage amplification is seen across the primary, measurably higher
than the source voltage, and this is "seen" by the secondary. This is
not the same thing as a power gain, because the power gain is a direct
result of effective impedance.
It should also be noted that the term "virtual rotation" has been
applied in describing the operation of the MRA. The comparison is made
with a generator, in which relative motion occurs between a coil and
magnet. Rather than use physical energy to rotate a mass, the MRA uses
resonance to rotate the energy.
This is seen in the polar rotation of the piezo dielectric as well as
in the molecular energy occuring in the reactive component of the
magnet, ie, the ringing. The lattice structures of the piezo and
magnet are compatible for virtual rotation, and the materials
complement each other electrically.
In the past, researchers have noted many effects which occur at
aggregate resonance, which typically includes a range of three
octaves. Anomalous energy gains were referred to as "aetheric". The
aether was believed to exist outside of the three physical dimensions,
and could be "tapped" for free energy at resonance.
Aetheric energy is said to be limitless, but to vary locally with
increases in earth magnetic fields at sunset and sunrise, like the
tides of an infinite ocean. This effect is not thoroughly understood,
but has been observed in the MRA, as increases in output in the early
morning, and decreases in the early evening. This is still being
studied.
Experimentation will determine the optimum MRA design for a specific
range of applications.
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Vanguard Note
The use of Lenz Law (back EMF) is legend in free energy circuits. When
the back EMF is reversed and phase matched to the forward EMF, you
have an increase in efficiency because of the reduction of eddy
current heating through the addition of the previously wasted power.
This is generally understood to apply primarily to magnetic flux, yet
because frequency is involved, phase conjugate principles play a major
part. Phase conjugation applies to all frequencies regardless of the
type of energy being used. Harmony (constructive interference) and
dissonance (destructive interference) are controlled using phasing and
frequency relationships.
If the rhythmic energy flowing through the mass is made resonant to
the mass aggregate resonance, you further reduce the resistance and
impedance, thereby achieving unity and in some cases overunity.
Most people want clean and simple circuits. These would not entail
physical motion or large inductive masses as are encountered in
orthodox generators. The MRA circuit fits this approach very nicely
because it does not involve moving mass, but rather moving energy
harmoniously to produce energy.
Further information on the MRA, its operational characteristics,
correlations and updates will be provided as they are documented.
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Message 9946 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 05:27 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To
: PAT NELLESEN Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Pat!
Glad you saw the file..... there has not been time to post further
updates since Joel/Norm only got it going last Sunday.... there are a
raft of email messages in the upper sections that I will transfer into
a file.... construction details are also a must.... those will be
forthcoming when Joel/Norm get them written into a file....
the diagram is sufficient for anyone 'skilled in the art' to construct
a basic prototype.... thanks for your interest.... this circuit is
just SO NEW IT will take some time to get all the permutations posted
in a 'readable fashion.....
thanks again and if you choose to build it, Joel and Norm would
greatly appreciate any feedback you might wish to provide....
>>>Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 9949 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 09:39 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
I have had my version of the MRA running for about 14 hours to
condition the magnet and the driver piezos so when I visit you we can
do some parallel testing on the two circuits for more verification of
over-unity operation. After running all night the circuit is
definitely in the (+) colume so we need to nail down the degree. I
will bring out my scope Techtronic 80 MHZ with a current probe so
maybe we can further bracket that elusive input figure.
Everyone agrees that when you are dealing with AC at 40KHZ with
harmonic bucking taking place it is sometimes very difficult to pin
down the real input wattage. The "equivalent resistance" test that you
are doing is I guess the only way, except for some sophisticated
equipment that Hal and John have down at the "Institute for Advanced
Studies" in Austin. More later
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9951 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 10:50 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: MRA in Conventional Theory Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The MRA is a series resonant LC circuit in which power gain is
attainable as a result of the increase in effective impedance under
certain operating conditions. When the series impedance increases,
primary current is reduced. When the power available from the
secondary coil either remains the same or increases as the primary
circuit impedance increases, a power gain occurs.
This is not possible with a series resonant circuit made of
conventional materials. Even unity power transfer is considered to be
unattainable as a result of accumulated losses in the components,
which are passive (reactive) devices. Materials and construction
methods are chosen for these components based upon the type of
application and frequency to be applied, with the goal of minimizing
losses.
A typical capacitor with polyethylene dielectric has a dielectric
constant of 2.3 times air. Air has a constant of 1.0, and is the basis
for comparison. Titanium dioxide, however, has a dielectric constant
maximum of 170, and a corresponding power factor of only 0.0006,
comparable with polyethylene, so that the dissipation of primary
current in the dielectric is extremely low. This is where the
comparison ends, because the titanium composite "capacitor" is also a
piezoelectric device as well as an excellent capacitor.
Heat adversely affects the power factor of most dielectric materials.
Titanium zirconate, however, contains polar molecules which rotate as
thermal pressure is applied. This rotation increases the dielectric
constant if the frequency applied is equal to or lower than the
resonant frequency of the dielectric. At series resonance, the
rotation of polar molecules contributes to heat; as the dielectric
constant increases, a corresponding release of free electrons occurs,
as a direct result of the piezoelectric properties of the device.
In application, the MRA is tuned at resonance for maximum power
transfer, then detuned slightly for maximum power gain. This relates
directly to the use of thermal pressure at resonance, and the effect
that this has on continued polar rotation and the release of donor
electrons.
The coil, or primary of the MRA is a magnetic core which relative to
the fixed capacitance of the piezo, is a tuned permeability device.
This is often used in RF devices to attain a stable resonant
frequency. Magnetic materials are chosen based upon the operating
characteristics of the intended application to reduce eddy currents in
the operating range. In these applications, the resonant frequency of
the magnet itself is avoided, as this would "beat" with the
oscillating current. However, in the MRA, this is the exact effect
which we want.
The barium ferrite magnet resonates audibly at frequencies which are
harmonics of the series resonant frequency. The effect of this in a
typical audio application is called harmonic distortion, and is not
desirable, but once again, in the MRA, this is what we want to occur.
There is energy in the harmonics, and this energy serves to both
counter eddy losses as well as to oppose primary current flow, while
contributing to circulating current within the resonant circuit.
The net effect of this, is that when the MRA is detuned, harmonics of
the audible frequency "beat" with primary current, opposing its flow,
while the increase in circulating current couples more power to the
secondary, and therefore to the load. This is how the power gain is
attained, basically by considering the naturally occuring harmonics as
beneficial instead of as undesirable effects to be filtered out.
When the MRA is detuned, the effective impedance increases as seen by
the source, while the power available to the load decreases in less
proportion. This is measurable by using resistive equivalent circuit
testing. However, the detuning is load dependent, and slight
adjustments are required if the load requirement is greater than the
power band of a harmonic interaction. After retuning, the power to the
will increase in quantum intervals as the circulating current is
reinforced by the reaction of the permeable magnet core. This will be
seen as slight incremental voltage increases across the load device.
Once the magnet is "ringing", it's frequency and therefore harmonics
remain stable, as long as the series resonant range is not exceeded.
Therefore, the detuning affects the piezo only, and the circulating
current increase is a result of the phase relationship between the
harmonic and the source. Voltage amplification is seen across the
primary, measurable higher than the source voltage, and this is "seen"
by the secondary. This is not the same thing as a power gain, because
the power gain is a direct result of effective impedance.
It should also be noted that the term "virtual rotation" has been
applied in describing the operation of the MRA. The comparison is made
with a generator, in which relative motion occurs between a coil and
magnet. Rather than use physical energy to rotate a mass, the MRA uses
resonance to rotate the energy. This is seen in the polar rotation of
the piezo dielectric as well as in the molecular energy occuring in
the reactive component of the magnet, ie, the ringing. The lattice
structures of the piezo and magnet are compatible for virtual
rotation, and the materials complement each other electrically.
In the past, researchers have noted many effects which occur at
aggregate resonance, which typically includes a range of three
octaves. Anomalous energy gains were referred to as "aetheric". The
aether was believed to exist outside of the three physical dimensions,
and could be "tapped" for free energy at resonance. Aetheric energy is
said to be limitless, but to vary locally with increases in earth
magnetic fields at sunset and sunrise, like the tides of an infinite
ocean. This effect is not thoroughly understood, but has been observed
in the MRA, as increases in output in the early morning, and decreases
in the early evening. This is still being studied.
Experimentation will determine the optimum MRA design for a specific
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Message 9952 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 10:58 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of MRA3.ZIP Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The MRA as seen in conventional terms as a variable impedance device
which utilizes harmonic "distortion" to increase effective power to a
load. ----------------------------------------
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Message 9953 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 11:45 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Magnetic Resonance Amplifier Folder
: A, "Public Mail"
| | I went through my filling cabinet to look up the | references you
mentioned. | | NW> Then enter the Neiper Ring, where we got into the |
NW> antigravity aspects of this circuit which led to the | NW>
investigation of the resonating of the silicone in the | NW>
transistors, "crystaline lattice" resonance. | | From this I think you
are referring to Dr. Hans A. | Hieper of "Dr. Nieper's Revolution in
Technology; Medicin | and Society". | | But from what you say below: |
| NW> I realy like the line of conversation that we had last | NW>
night re- the idea of a car that ran on our permanent | NW> magnetic
"pile" which over a year of operation would slowly | NW> deplete the
magnetism of the "pile and all you had to do | NW> was pull into a
service station where an attendant would | NW> plug into the pile a
capacitive discharge unit and | NW> re-magnitize the "pile to full
strength and away we could go | NW> for another year of free driving.
| | I think you might be referring to Dr. Francis Nipher | of the
"Graviation and Electrical Action" and "Gravitational | Repulsion"
papers. | | Also related seem to be Palmer H. Craig's "Hall | Effect
Device". Craig discovered a additive principle that | generates
several volts by stacking of Bismuth films | sandwiched with copper
coils, that interact with very low | magnetic fields (i.e. normal
background Earth stuff). | | But most importantly seems to be the work
of Felix | Ehrenhaft, Director of the Physics Institute at the |
University of Vienna between 1920 and 1940. | | Ehrenhaft demonstrated
that a Alnico Preeminent | Magnet could be made to suffer a loss of up
to 10% of its | strength over a 24 hour period. See Popular Science
June | 1944 "Magic with MAGNETISM" by Alden P. Armagnac. | | NW> ..
your message #9490 "Water Dissociation" using the | NW> barium
titanate... | | The PS magazine shows a picture of Ehrenhaft |
"Display[ing] a tube of gases produced, he says, by | decomposing with
a magnet". | | Also see Radio Craft for March 1994 for more on |
Ehrenhaft. He talks of light interaction with his devices. | Could the
light in your room be a variable in the 'tuning'? | Ehrehaft felt he
was dealing with Monopols. Figure 2 a | simple set up that would
generate a "Block Wall" to pattern. | I think I'll make a trip to the
library and see if I can | get the whole thing I've only got fragments
of this. | | A light/Magnetic interaction discussion also appeared |
in Letters to the Editor of Nature No. 3714 Jan. 4, 1941 | "Stationary
Electric and Magnetic Fields in Beams of Light" | by Felix Ehrenhaft.
| | Is the light in the lab an over looked factor in a | lot of these
different type experiments? | | Does any of this help, or just muddy
the water? | ----------------------------------------
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Message 9955 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 11:47 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) MRA "On line" Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Ok thanks. ----------------------------------------
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Message 9956 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 11:48 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Titanium Zirconate Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Are Zirconate and Zirconium the same thing? I've got the felling I'm
losing my mind lattely and forgeting more than I should....
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Message 9957 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 13:38 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : ARTHUR BABICK Subject: (R) Comment Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Art!
Damn, I screwed up on that..... when I installed the files, I listed
them back as .ASC, .GIF and I saw a .ZIP but did not realize it was
Joels and in the upload directory.... That is all corrected
NOW.....GEEZ....I hope this is not the one that Bill sent out to
InterNet..
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 9958 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 13:39 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Screwup Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hey Bill!
Art just informed me he could not find an MRA.ZIP..... I had to add a
preliminary to the original so I am hoping that is the one you
downloaded and placed on the InterNet... The size should be a bit over
15K when zipped.... Here's what happened.... Joel uploaded a file
called MRA.ZIP.... it contained the original text and an image file
labeled MRA.PCX but it was in FACT a .BMP.... I renamed the file to
.BMP and saved it as a .GIF. Those were then placed on the board as
the original MRA.ASC, MRA.GIF and I thought MRA.ZIP..... However, you
cannot have two files with the same name even though they are in
different directories......so I think the MRA.ZIP was not accessible
because it was in the UPLOAD section. After your message about
detail....the .ASC and .GIF files were suspended by installing a
temporary password (to prevent downloading)...there was not then a
.ZIP....the files were modified, reinstalled and zipped.....but I
think I failed to add the MRA.ZIP to the index, thus making it
invisible...though the .ASC and .GIF were both available....geez, what
a mess....that's what I get for rushing around so much....<g>...
Anyway, I suspect you downloaded the .ASC and the .GIF, then zipped
them up yourself....tell me it's SO....well, my error, the files are
listed anywhere from 2 to 3 times on the board....the .ASC are for
non-IBM that cannot unzip, the .ZIP are for IBM and those who
can...and the .GIF is just the image file....this way, it is
redundancy that keeps a spare in case one gets corrupted.. Well, I
just checked out the files and found the following: MRA.ASC has been
downloaded 27 times to date MRA.GIF has been downloaded 29 times to
date MRA.ZIP has been downloaded 0 times because I just added it...
So, I guess it's OK after all....gotta change my
medication....later...>>> Jerry
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Message 9959 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 13:51 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm/Joel!
Do you think Walt Rosenthal needs a copy or a circuit to play with...
he has ALL THE TOOLS to make the measurements as he did for Trippett??
I have his address if you want to send him one....
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 9962 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 14:03 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) Titanium Zirconate Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob!
Yes, you're losing your mind, we've all noticed but not brought it
up..... <g>.... I really don't know but I suspect zirconium is
different from zirconate.... kind of like 'ites and 'ides... one is
Plus and one is minus..... is it worth looking up as I have a couple
of chemical diction/cyclos???
>>> Jerry
...guess I should clarify that on re-reading... sulfite, sulfide,
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Message 9963 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 14:26 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Jerry:
I was waiting for you to get off work today to discuss sending a
complete circuit to Walter Rosenthal. Yes I will box up my completed
circuit since it is well burned in so that Walter can do the
"verification" like he did on the "Lee Trippet" circuit. I will need
his address and phone number from you so we can coordinate. If you
will please call Walter and bring him up to date and ask if he will do
the verification testing along with Hal Puthoff doing the test on
Joel's circuit.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9964 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 14:31 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : BILL
BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Yes Joel and I both have Techtronic scopes and Fluke 87 true RMS
meters to cross check all measurements and so far we cannot find the
"flaw" in the test procedure if there is one.
The only real test is "independent verification" which will be done by
Hal Puthoff and John down in Austin.
If you saw Jerry's message to me, I will be sending Walter Rosenthal a
complete running circuit for a second verification along with a
complete set of all the message traffic and "Tech Bulletins" to date.
Joel and I have done all we can do as to verification due to not
having some very advanced equipment. The next step is on the work
bench in the form of a voltage regulator stage, an oscillator stage
and a MOSFET driver stage to drive the front end of the circuit so we
can run it "stand alone".
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9965 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 14:38 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bob:
Thanks for the response regards the MRA. Joel and I have had fun on
this one for this trail has taken many twist. While we were watching
the "Hans Neiper Ring" circuit loose weight on the scale we speculated
on the cause of this weight loss and arrived at the conclusion that it
had to be in the Silicon in the transistors. We began discussing the
Nested tetrahedron, sacred geometry and how you could induce "Virtual
Rotation" within the crystaline lattice structure of the elements to
either cause the anti-grav effect or extract energy.
Well Joel combined two familiar crystaline substances which are noted
for their electrical power generation capabilities, ie. Magnet and
Piezo crystal and Vola we have a solid state generator that uses
"Virtual Rotation" instead of physical rotation of magnets in
conductors or rotation of conductors in a magnetic field. Sounds
simple doesn't it?
Think about the ramifications behind all this. Your references did not
"muddy" one bit. All contributions are welcome. Heaven knows we need
the help right about now for this is just the beginning.
Nick Holden asked me this morning if we had the circuit running on
it's own and I told him that the baby was just born last Sunday
therefore not ready to start college yet. Geeeez, it is only a week
old and not off the "TIT" yet. In time, In time.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9966 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 15:45 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: mra piezo source? Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The H&R catalog has LEAD ZIRCONATE TITANATE piezos, 1.5" by 1/10",
50khz. Think it'll work? ----------------------------------------
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Message 9967 DATE/TIME: 12/17/94 18:17 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Yes those transducers will work but they are physically smaller than
the ones we are useing. I figure when this circuit is verified that
the next step will be to go to a natural quartz milled waffer of the
natural freq we desire to same as the crystals used in transmitters
except a lot larger. If you have access to a Thomas Directory at work,
please look up Branson who makes the ultrasonic welders so we can get
a source manufacturer from them. Maybe someone on the Internet will
know the manufacturers of these transducers.
This circuit is a mind bender when you study it's characteristics. For
example I started off this morning (after I let the circuit run all
night to condition the magnet and piezo crystal) with a total
over-unity power gain of 1.65:1 ratio. After playing with the circuit
all day taking measurements after each adjustment or change of
operating parameters, arrived at a 150:1 I/O ratio.
Here are the figures: Input 15.34 VAC @ 54.9 KHZ with .57 Ma which is
.000874 Watts which has to be adjusted for power factor by multiplying
by .707. The output is: 16.75 VDC @ 78.8 Ma into a pure resistive
load. This figures out to be greater than a 150:1 I/O ratio.
I guess you have figured out how excited everyone is over this
"Gadget". Now unless OHMS law has been nulified or there is some
"spook" phenomenon that Joel and I cannot find then we have the 1 watt
challenge in the bag by a wide margin.
More as we learn more.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9981 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 06:41 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) Magnetic Resonance Amplifier Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
| BP> Also see Radio Craft for March 1994 for more on | BP> Ehrenhaft.
| | Fumble fingers again. :-( That should be 1944!.
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Message 9982 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 10:13 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA (Tech Bulletin) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I know that there are quit a few folks out there running around
digging up parts to build a MRA device to do independent testing. Let
me share with you some findings that will assist all in this approach.
First disregard the measurements that I gave Bill Beaty yesterday in a
message about power gain. I like Joel find myself back at "square
one". It happens like this, when you have this circuit up on the
"ragged edge" where the first harmonic seems to be phase "beating" or
attenuating the input current and providing potential only to drive
the first stage resonance in the transducer, you disconnect the load
to do the only accurate total power consumption test which is
"equivalent resistance" measurements so we can nail down the elusive
power figure according to OHMS LAW.
Well when you unload the circuit under the optimum operating
conditions the transducers will immediately trip into a very powerful
mechanical oscillations around 2KHZ and self distruct in short order
and at the same time put out a violent voltage that can soar above
1000 VAC which inturn will literaly wipe out your driving amplifier
and your frequency counter. Fortunately the scope is better protected
on the front end. So what I am saying is that you begin all over
conditioning a new set of driver transducers which even fresh out of
the box will display over-unity output in the circuit.
The people over at the manufacturing firm that makes these transducers
are "smilling" and calling their stock broker to exercise some stock
options in their product for I see a lot of you destroying a bunch of
transducers in the process of testing and improving the circuit. Let
me share with you some ideas.
When I go back and read TOM BEARDENS works about potentializing a
circuit without the attendant circuit that is normally involved we
will have achieved the over-unity that we are seeking.
After careful study of the MRA I can see how this device can be
separated into two separate devices. First the piezo is a source of
high freq potential which at 3 octaves above drive the ferro-resonant
primary coil at the natural resonant freq of the magnetic material.
Now I believe I have figured out the secret behind the Swiss M-L
Converter known as the TESTAVISTATIKA or TESTATIKA for short. This
device was developed in the group called METHERNETA by Paul Baumann
and it has been seen by our friend Stephan Marinov. This ZPE tapping
can be accomplished through potential being derived from any source
such as the electrostatic charge developed in the whinshurst type
generator.
The secret is in the MAGNETIC RESONANCE AMPLIFIER. Ken Shoulders and
R.A. Ford demonstrated that what we term as harmless energy
(electrostatic charge) when stored in a large capacitor is real charge
seperation and can do some interesting things such as exploding water,
wire and other interesting research projects.
If we take advantage of the mechanical oscillations of the transducer
and operate it at a level of mechanical resonance (in free
oscillation) that will optimize the voltage output (lets say 400
volts) which inturn we use to drive the ferro-resonant barium ferrite
core coil then we can extract some serious power from the coil
providing that we have done our homework and provided the optimum
impedance matching and tuning of the circuit to maximize the final
product.
We are a long ways from our final goal of having a unit that we can
flip a switch and the thing will run "stand alone". Joel and I have
taken the first step by sharing with you our findings so let's work
this thing out together as a "joint project". We will share all
findings in these Tech Bulletins so everyone is on the same sheet of
music.
Now for some "spook" type anomalies that occur around this circuit
when it is running in the ZPE tapping mode which is where we purposely
de-tune the circuit upward in freq so that we get the "beating" effect
from the first harmonic. When you see this on the scope it will appear
as the sine wave patern of the input being broken into little line
segments by an invisible or transparent oscillation at a much higher
freq than the primary driving signal which in the case of my circuit
is around 56.8 KHZ. Even when I have CH 2 turned on with no signal
(base line only) it also is broken into short line segments as if the
electron beam is driven into cut off by this invisible signal. Any RF
engineers out there seen this? Please explain same. I believe that all
the phenomenon that is being observed by people such as Sweet, Aspden,
Adams, Lambertson, Searle and Tom Bearden are all connected by a
common thread. Let's "unravel it"
Norm ----------------------------------------
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9983 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 11:03 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : JERRY DECKER
(SYSOP) Subject: Piezos are fragile Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry,
The piezos, for all of their 50 watt capability, are fragile,
especially along the edges. I had mine soldered at the edges, and when
it bumped into the magnet while in transport, it cracked. The piezo
has to be free to vibrate...if you touch it while the MRA is running,
you can watch your output drop off, so it's a question of finding a
way to mount them "loose", yet protected.
However, whoever accidently picked up my stapled pack of tech notes
might let me know so I can pick them up...has all of the test fata and
correspondence with Hal, and was on the corner of the table.
THANKS!! Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9984 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 11:13 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : JERRY
DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hey!! Jerry,
Don Smith is right all the way. Let me explain- he has basically the
same circuit that we (Joel and I). In his circuit he is using a Tesla
coil as the driver and trying to extract power in his secondary from
the "febile" background earth magnetic field.
If Don had been privy to what Joel and I know (now everyone) then he
could have incorporated into his circuit a powerful barium ferrite
magnet which he could drive at its resonant freq and effectively do
the same thing we are doing.
In fact the Tesla coil instead of the transducer is a much better
driving potential. It is inheriently much more stable with much higher
potentials being able to be achieved and the fact remains that the ZPE
tapping occurs in the domains of the magnet in "Virtual Rotation".
Thoughts Jerry and Joel?????????????
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 9985 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 11:55 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Tiger by the tail Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm,
Sorry to hear that you also blew up your input amplifier. We've got a
very powerful tiger by a very short tail with the MRA. It's purpose is
to give power gain by bucking input current while using circulating
current to drive the load, and this is done in a tuned, balanced
state. As we've seen, unbalancing the MRA by removing the load can
cause the "bucking" current to run open and blow up 40 to 50 watt
amplifiers...with no other power applied. Even the flux from it blew
up my panel mount DVM.
Well, the good news is that we are over unity...the bad news is that
we will have to cage the beast somehow.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 9987 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 12:46 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: mel fuller Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Jerry, I got a call from a Mel Fuller about the mra. He says he worked
on the patent for Ev Gray, did some sort of work with Depalma, and has
been involved with strange inventions for years. He called to
congradulate you guys for avoiding the 'secrecy' route which has
wrecked so many inventions. If you want to give him a call, he is at
916-468-2957. . He was also amazed because he had just discovered the
internet a week ago, and right away THIS happens. Synchronicity
usually indicates important things in the works!
- Bill B. ----------------------------------------
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Message 9988 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 12:52 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: mra energy measurements Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Norm,
I need to get the oscillator voltage for the energy calculation for
the original mra paper. A couple of messages mentioned that only the
input energy and input current is given. From going backwards, it
looks like it must have been 16v rms or so (if phase was 0 degrees)
What was the actual measurement?
Thanks! ----------------------------------------
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Message 10003 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 20:38 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm!
I see how a Tesla coil would be a much more effective driver due to
the high voltage AC but I can't see any major correlations with Don's
claims or results...he does not use any kind of magnet and I don't
know what would go on were a magnet used as a component of the Tesla
coil itself... would be an interesting thing to try... but I think it
might load it down, since such coils are based on voltage and not
current...
It would be interesting to send him a circuit and see what he has to
say... have you talked to him lately? I heard from him about 5 months
or so ago, probably more like 3 and he says he has an improved version
that he sells for something like $3000, but he still won't say it will
drive a motor without the battery/inverter setup...
I will send him a copy of the paper and give him a call after the New
Year to see what he thinks about it...you might be right, a fusion of
the two might produce the results Don is so desparately claiming he
HAS achieved, but our own experience with his LAB DEVICE would not
light a neon tube let alone a fluorescent....
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10009 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 20:57 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : LARRY CALVERT Subject: (R) MRA parts Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Larry!
Those piezos are available in the back of many electronics
magazines... just check out the advertisements...I was not aware
Tanner was out, last time we talked he had about 300, I have bought
about 100 of the original 600 he had.....
good luck... >>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10011 DATE/TIME: 12/18/94 21:56 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : LARRY CALVERT Subject: (R) MRA parts Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Larry,
I get my piezos from Norm's stock...Norm, do you have some extras?
Thanks! Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10014 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 02:18 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: DAN Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Joel/Norm, et.al.....
Dan Davidson downloaded the MRA file and called back today to make
some recommendations....
he says he sees a couple of ways to possibly generate more output
current and to keep from fracturing the crystals. In his experiments
with the TitZir piezos, he clamps them between two sheets of metal
(insulated to keep from shorting the piezo faces) to a pressure of
around 100 psi.... he says this stresses the crystal and keeps it from
fracturing from wild vibrational states such as has been encountered
in the removal of the load while the system is on...
As to power, he found a calculation for the optimum voltage to excite
a crystal of this type, and it runs something like 10 volts/mm... he
says about 150 volts minimum to get the maximum output of the
crystal... I brought up Joels concerns about the crystal being free to
oscillate to take advantage of the extra harmonics but Dan thinks that
is not the key as to why it works.....
While transferring the ADAMS files to the system tonite, I saw Joel
online and we chatted about this..... so he knows it... at any rate,
Dan thinks there is something here that you guys have come up with and
he will build the circuit and report back as further input to the
knowledge base....
later...
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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10015 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 06:55 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
| NW> The next step is on the work bench in the form of a NW> voltage
regulator stage, an oscillator stage and a MOSFET NW> driver stage to
drive the front end of the circuit so we NW> can run it "stand alone".
Norm NW> | | There are some new parts out that will allow a low |
distortion sin wave generation: | | Look at the Motorola TMOS and
HDTMOS stuff, | particularly the 3302 "H" bridge, its good to 50
watts, better | than the old MOSFETs. | | And Maxim just came out with
their MAX038 signal | generator part. |
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Message 10016 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 06:56 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
| NW> Input 15.34 VAC @ 54.9 KHZ with .57 Ma which is NW> .000874
Watts which has to be adjusted for power factor by NW> multiplying by
.707. The output is: 16.75 VDC @ 78.8 Ma NW> into a pure NW> | | Twice
now you've implied that the power factor is | .707, as tho it is
always .707, time for the lecture, if | you don't needed it some one
reading this will: | | First this is where 0.707 comes from: | | Power
being proportional to either E*E or I*I (P = | (E*E)/R = (I*I)*R), if
all the instantaneous values of a | half cycle of sine-wave current
(or voltage) are squared | then the average, or mean, of all the
squared values is | found, the square root of this mean value will be
0.707 of | the peak value. This Root-Mean-Square, or RMS, value |
represents how effective a PURE AC sine wave will be in | comparison
with its PEAK value. The EFFECTIVE value of a | sine-wave AC cycle is
equal to 0.707 of the peak value. For | example a 10A PEAK AC PURE
sine wave will only be as | effective at producing heat and work as
7.07A of DC. [Of | course how one defines 'work' is open to debate.
:-) ] | | Power Factor represents the ration of true to | apparent
power, or P/VA. | | pf = (True Power)/(Apparent Power) = ((I*I)*R)/VA
= R/Z = cos 0 | | where 0 is the EI phase angle. | | True power can be
computed by multiplying the | apparent power by the power factor: | |
P = VA(pf) = VA(cos 0) | | The power factor is in reality a comparison
of the | amount of power a circuit is apparently using and what it is
| actually using. | | Please don't think I'm trying to rain on your
parade | but we MUST be meticulous in our calculations and designs if
| we are to get reproducible results and to be taken seriously | by
'Them'. Some times we can get caught up in the energy of | the moment.
| | An indisputable test would be to use a Calorimeter | to measure
then input and output, any one got one handy (I | wish I did)? | |
When the math doesn't work build it any way to much dogma in math... |
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Message 10019 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 07:02 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Hamond Sine Wave Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Are you still on the quest for the perfect sin wave? I finally got
"The Hammond Organ Service Information MODEL M-2 (Spinet Model with
Selective Vibrato)" service manual, and "Service Manual model-M". Do
you still want it?
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Message 10020 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 07:53 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Jerry:
Reference your discussion with Dan, remember back in the message base
I have asked all out there to come up with the ideal method of
mounting and other means to extract maximum power from the piezo. Dan
has more experience with the piezos than most folks so we value his
input. We don't have all the answers yet and probable never will so
therefore we need input from the field from more knowledgable people
than we are.
Thanks Dan for the excellent input.
We will run some test with the piezos running between two pressure
plates and with the optimum voltage applied to excite them. The
problem Joel and I see arises from the fact that the output of the
piezo can soar to thousands of volts when excited at it's resonant
freq. The question is "how do we harness the beast?". Joel and I have
"smoked" power amps because of reflected high voltage from the piezo
which is not absorbed or transformed in the coil due to instantaneous
impedance mismatch. Since we are driving with a pure sine wave from
the signal gen and amplified by the power amp we need a form of
protection other than a fuse to prevent this feed back into the signal
source.
Thanks Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10021 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 08:03 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bob:
You are "damned if you do and damned if you don't" apply the PF
correction. We don't even know what we are dealing with here. This is
not conventional electricity as we are accustomed to. Believe me some
weird thing take place in this circuit that Joel and I agree is not in
the physics book. The only way you can get a firm handle on it is get
out of your "arm chair" and go to the work bench and build one of
these beast and see for yourself that it is "non-conventional"
electronics.
I can see Tom Bearden and Sparky Sweet grinning right now for they
have seen what we have encountered.
We have not heard the "wooshing noise" yet but have not gone up in
power until we know what we are dealing with.
I told Joel that I had a "lucid" dream while working at my electronics
bench of applying high power to the circuit only to have a micro
"black hole" form around the device. In the dream I ran out of the
room and out the side door of my apartment as the "black hole"
completely consumed the whole building leaving this huge ink black
void in it's wake. We have all heard stories about effects from
pulling at the "fabric of the aether", time distortions, loss of
weight etc. so you can see the reluctance to drive forward without
caution.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10022 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 08:14 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: Hammond Organ Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Bob:
Yes I am still looking around Dallas for a broken down organ so that I
can get the note generator from it. Good Hammond are expensive for
they are real popular with the small churches. I have found several
around $200 but have not sprung loose with the funds. Other prioritys.
Yes, I would like to borrow the manual or a copy will do for my
musician friend say it produces the very best "sine wave" output. Not
the new electronic versions but the old disk and inductive pickup
type.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10028 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 09:11 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Tiger by the tail Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
JM> Sorry to hear that you also blew up your input amplifier. | |
[snip] | JM> As we've seen, unbalancing the MRA by removing the JM>
load can cause the "bucking" current to run open and blow up 40 to JM>
50 watt amplifiers...with no other power applied. | | [snip] | JM>
Well, the good news is that we are over unity...the bad news is that
JM> we will have to cage the beast somehow.
National Semiconductor has just come out with parts that the advertise
as "Indestructible Stereo Power Amp" parts.
I'll see if I can find the part numbers.
Also 600 to 1200 V MOSFETs/IGBTs/MCT's (Motorola/Harris/International
Rectifier/Westinghouse) are not hard to come by these days.
Part of my day job is maintaining the company library so I get to find
out about all of this Good Stuff. :-)
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Message 10029 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 09:53 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
NW> The only way you can get a firm handle on it is get NW> out of
your "arm chair" and go to the work bench and build NW> one of these
beast and see for yourself that it is NW> "non-conventional"
electronics.
My work bench has a 'non-conventional' gaget setting on it right now.
In concept close to yours but using all off the shelf electronic
parts. Every one will hear about it when it is working. Just need to
figure out how to get a connector on to this weird Zig-Zag package
(LM18200) to finish up the wiring.
I've read Beardon, King's papers, and many others so I know of the
many 'non-conventional' anomalies. I've grown up collecting anomalies,
guess thats why I'm here. :-)
Just like I said in the other message "There is to much dogma in math,
build it anyway."
There is really no reason that I can see that we need to convince the
rest of the world that we are right. As long as we can all get
reproducible results "the old guard will die off, and the young will
grow up accepting it" (don't remember who said it).
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Message 10032 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 10:17 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: Internet MRA msg Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Below is an interesting message from the internet. I've gotten a few
others, which I will collect and upload soon.
- bill b.
------------------------------------------------------------- . From:
"John Brock" <xbrock@deathstar.cris.com> To: billb@eskimo.com Date:
Fri, 16 Dec 1994 21:24:39 +0000 Subject: overdrive device Reply-To:
xbrock@cris.com - Sir. Having played with quartz in some rather unsual
experiments I may have a few ideas on you device. - 1. I have heard of
such a device built in the 1930 and was taken over by the morman
church. From drawing that I have seen it seems to follow the same
lines of thought.
2. Consider treating your idea like a Regenative radio circuit using
an antenna to boost your power.
3. It may also be a good idea to wind your coils so as to approach
about 40 ohms of reactive inductance. It seems this is also about the
same as the earths magnetic fields.
4. Using a plastic rod as a spacer keep your windings about 1.5 to 2
inchs away from you magnetic core. Using standoffs to center your
magnetic core in the center of the plastic tube. This will put the
windings more into the magnetic flow around the rod.
5. Consider using a core of pure quartz instead of a magnet to wrap
your windings around..If gravity and magnets share certian qualities
this maybe a real kick in the pants.
6. Once you have settled on a fixed freq. would it be possible to put
the quartz components a tuned chamber.
7. Also would it be possible to us a small secondary winding to feed
the input and allow the device to function totally on its own.. this
was the basis for the Salt lake city device ... once tickeled into
resonance it was claim to run on its own. - NOTE: (I have in my
possession 3 large very pure.... optic grade quartz crystals which
maybe prove helpful in further experments if and if not please
ack..... [text garbled --CF] I am rather [garbled --CF] of your
results... At present am trying to perfect a magnetic drive unit. As
in your unit my goal is to attain continous feedback for power.... the
difference being I am using 400 times more quartz.
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Message 10033 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 10:46 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm/Joel et. al,
Just got a call from Tom Bearden..... he's excited and even though I
sent the MRA to him last week, he wants it today... so I am faxing
it...along with the MRA1 and the UJTOSC (Woody's UJT oscillator file)
because he can use all of it.
As to the fracturing, he says this is due to pumping the potetial
field and went into a long explanation that I don't remember half
of.... he says his paper on stepped charging of the capacitors warns
of this and they still haven't figured out how to get around it....
He says they have transients exceeding 3000 volts and have smoked
several test instruments on their end also.... he says to be sure and
warn Rosenthal of this before he trashes some of that very expensive
stuff he will use....
Tom says because the anomalies in such circuits are so radically
different from normal electromagnetics, to prevent or at the very
least ATTEMPT to minimize damage to their test devices and circuits..
they have adopted the approach of discrete charging only up to fixed
levels.... it is everyones desire to get the max power out, but not at
the expense of blown equipment, ruptured parts or circuits that burn
out, so he thinks once the grad students and others start getting into
it, they will work convergently (as everyone here does) to come up
with the bottomline details of what works, what doesn't and what will
produce anomalous effects.....
So, I have to get those faxes to him now, again, he said he is SO VERY
PLEASED that everyone is working so well together and that the
information is being so freely shared.....>>>
Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10034 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 10:54 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Hammond Organ Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm!
Do you remember the fellow from Canada who mentioned the guy with the
geometric speaker system (or addition to the speaker) that would
produce ABSOLUTELY PURE SINE WAVES from the digital sources most of us
listen to??? He said they produced unbelievable effects on the
listeners... this might be a better approach... I did not get a chance
to get with the fellow and get his address or business card because
everyone rushed him..... so if you have the address/phone and can
provide it to me, I will write him a letter and get the details on
where this fellow is so that can be tracked and pinned down.... he
must have a price list and such.... I would also like to have a couple
of those speakers or mod kits to study since there are indications
digital sound reduces body energy as per kinesiology and acupuncture
meridian mesaurements.... so if you have the address could you get it
for me... I will also ask Leonard as I know he has it
too....thanks...>>>
Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10036 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 11:00 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm/Joel!
Could you guys drop in a note to both of them, warning of the
possiblity of damage to their equipment from these anomalous
transients... I'm sure we'd all feel very bad if one of their very
expensive instruments got damaged because they had not been forewarned
and it is so nice of Walt and Hal to check out anything without
charging a consulting fee....most universities even charge for such
services, of course these are special guys, but still..... I would
really hate to see them have to suffer out of pocket expenses or time
to get their equipment repaired....
thanks... >>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10037 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 11:04 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BERT POOL Subject: (R) Gremlins? Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Bert!
Yep, Norm and I remembered WHO TO BLAME for finding these things IN
THE FIRST PLACE!
I too have bought about 100 of those piezos and have soldered them
successfully.... I use a Weller gun...it gets very hot, very fast and
will make things attach without the need for flux in most cases.... so
far, I haven't had any problems, but I've only done 4.... it is
embarrassing because mine lift off the table, then fall back down,
like they discharge or something, so until it gets stable, it stays
here....<g>.....
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10041 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 12:10 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BERT POOL Subject: MRA at preamp signal input Folder
: A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert,
At the meeting, you were talking about energizing an MRA with low
level signal input, so I gave it a try with a weak stereo preamp. The
input to the MRA was 0.562VAC and 1.1ma for 6.2mw of input power. The
output power is only 2.2mw. After an hour, the input power power
dropped off to 4.2mw as the circuit equivalent resistance increased
from 510 ohms to 1.0K ohms, and the output power stayed the same at
2.2mw, but this is still only half of unity. Even given more hours of
test, I don't think it will make unity. It's possible that the weak
potential and resulting current are not enough to create the flux
density and piezo effect that we need.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10048 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 18:10 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
I picked up 2 40 watt amps from radio shack today, one for you and one
for me. They are powered by 12VDC so we can easily track the DC input
to the amp. I'll get it to you later, maybe tommorrow.
Norm
PS: I like Dan's idea of compression mounting the transducers for we
can sandwich the driver between two transducers all insulated from on
another in 100 # compression and drive the outer two with the desired
freq from the power amp them take the high voltage output from the
center transducer to drive the ferro-magnetic coil. Will give this a
try for I also stopped at "Elliot's" and picked up brass shim stock to
give us lead outs to solder to since we are sandwiching the units and
cannot solder to the surfaces.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10054 DATE/TIME: 12/19/94 21:14 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
------- 1.90vac @ 34.11KHz Hi Norm, | sig |------------ | | | Using
this circuit in the MRA | gen | | I've been able to measure the
------- -------- primary current without the | ref A [] piezo effects
of the voltage multi- | -------- plication or the inductance of | |
ref B wire wound resistors. | | | \ 8 ohm comp. With the 8 ohm
resistor wired | / resistor between the piezo and primary | \ and
measuring from the return | / side at ref A to ref B and to | | ref C
ref C, and subtracting them, | | you have the voltage drop for | 0
calculating series current. | 0 primary | 0 winding I have 11.15vac at
ref B and | 0 11.10vac at ref C for .050 | | drop, /8 = .00625 amps,
times ---------------- 1.90vac for 11.9mw.
On the output (not shown) is 5.80vac across 600 ohm resistive load for
current of 9.7ma and power of 56mw. Gain is 56/11.9 = 4.66 times
unity. Please try this and let me know what you get.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10059 DATE/TIME: 12/20/94 07:55 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JAMES HARTMAN Subject: MRA / Gravity Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
James:
We have your skeaker levitation experiment on the net as a file. A
couple of days ago someone mentioned the harmonic rich wave form of
the MRA as being the same as your output from the "distortion amp"
when you were getting the levitation effect with the correct
fundamental freq applied. All goes back to Keely with the multiple
freq discord causing anomolous gravity effects. Sure wish you luck in
the pursuit of follow-up info on the English report. With the Neiper
Ring project we will need as much info as possible to achieve full
anti-grav effects.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10061 DATE/TIME: 12/20/94 08:03 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bob:
Thanks for the feed back on this project. I as do all the "E" folks on
the NET understand where you are coming from for you have been a
staunch supporter of our efforts with very valuable input at all
times.
Bert wants more info on the "indestructible" transistors you
mentioned. Walter Rosenthal told me last night that he will not even
hook up anything without a transient suppresion diode in the circuit
so as to prevent taking out expensive equipment. Bert is designing the
oscillator driver circuit to power the front end when we eventually
get the MRA in the "stand alone" configuration.
Right now we like you have a good theory in the breadboard stage with
it clearly demonstrating over-unity but need to "flesh it out and
maximize the effects and learn more about what is going on.
Thanks Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10069 DATE/TIME: 12/20/94 11:44 From : DANIEL HILL -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Transducers Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm,
I tried to correct that message. But, the old one seems to be still
there! Oh well, The parts store is the familiar Tanner's Electronics
at 35E and Beltline. They had to go into the warehouse to get ten or
so transducers. They do have them at least until they run out. I also
called Dexter Magnetics on Collins in Richardson. They informed me
that they could make any shape I wanted. However the magnetic field
becomes inefficient for ratios over an 3 inches long. They also said
that the barium has been replaced by strontium. I will have to
recalculate the equations for the atom of strontium and let yall know
what I get. The only thing in stock(chicago) is a rectangle shape of
1.875 X 1.25 X .325. The Magnectic polarity is on the thicknes
dimension for barium pressed type magnets. The prices are $50. Min
order. And, the rectangles are $3.81 X 14 min order. The Circular
shapes are 10 for $5.00 but of course $50 min order. For larger
magnets of 4 inches or longer the ceramic magnets are not used instead
a combination (almico) of Neodymium, Iron, Boron etc is used. And,
these have a tendency to loose the magnetic property. .... Oh well, I
will have to experiment with different materials and see what types of
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Message 10071 DATE/TIME: 12/20/94 14:04 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: E-Line Tests Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I like the idea of using the solid state amps to measure current
differentials. I've tried to measure the difference in AC current to
the sig gen by measuring the voltage drop across a 2 ohm resistor in
series with line to the sig gen. Even with a Sola, there is more line
variation than the 0.001VAC difference in drop that would equal the
entire output power of the MRA. (.001/2 X 119.2VAC = 60mw). So,
measuring input power in this way is out of the question.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10073 DATE/TIME: 12/20/94 14:28 From : ARNOLD FOX -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Howdy Norman This is for you and Joel.
First off - congradulations on a working device & for sharing it.
There are numerous things that you need to make sure you & are aware
as not to fall into a cold fusion or unrepeatable phenomena trap.
Don't deplete your stocks of materials! Materials reputed to be the
same & sold as exact copies of what you have - will vary. Tiny
deviations in the manufacturing process may throw things off with
replicated devices using materials made at later production runs. Save
enough that precise analysis may be done from your original stocks.
You are both aware of devices that were next to impossible to
duplicate - manytimes this was due to redoing a working device with
new materials or components - where the originals had been conditioned
by previous usage or aging due to sitting around the workshop.
Take extensive notes & take some more! I liked the fact you noticed
varied outputs due to the time of day. Note everything of this nature.
Simple directional orientation within the earth's magnetic field may
have effects - this translating to simple positioning of the device in
the lab.
Don't leap away from the basic design until you've done everything
possible to document and study it. Pay attention to seemingly
noncritical design items. A perfectly wound coil may not perform as
well as one thrown together in the shop.
I'll get back later and add somemore to this.
Take Care & Merry Christmas To All!
Arnold ----------------------------------------
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Message 10080 DATE/TIME: 12/20/94 18:35 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : ARNOLD FOX Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Arnold:
You bet we will keep plenty of the original stock of transducers and
magnet material for we have been down that road before.
By the way, the MRA is not too difficult to reproduce if all potential
builders will follow simple guidlines provided in the "tech bulletins"
for I have built 3 different versions with different wire sizes and
different shaped barium ferrite magnets and still get the indicated
over-unity effect (to be verified by independent testing).
The most critical part of the MRA is in the set up and tuning and
keeping the discipline to stay at very low power levels while
observing the output. If you crowd the circuit and go for large power
outputs you defeat the whole resonant set up.
You mentioned "effects", well here is one for you, while the MRA is
running you can "tweek it to maximum" output with the minimum input
possible, walk out of the room for let's say 30 minutes and return to
close proximity to the running circuit and suddenly see the DC output
climbing as if this circuit was being affected by the "aura around the
body" or maybe it is just a capacitive effect. One thing is for sure
there is a field of "influence" around the running device as if it is
drawing energy in from the immediate surroundings. All very
interesting.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10085 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 01:03 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Well tonight Joel and I did some testing which we hoped would clearly
define just what we were dealing with in the MRA circuit. Joel, in an
earlier message described it as "having a tiger by the tail", you
ain't seen nuthing like this tiger. The only way I would attempt to
describe this circuit is a "mini black hole" on your work bench.
Electrical engineers and PHD's in electronic theory will go
"ballistic" on this one I promise.
After running the MRA at low power levels for several hours we turned
off every thing on the work bench "everything". After attaching one
lead of a Fluke 87 true RMS meter to the input of the MRA and holding
the other lead in my hand we were getting a reading of 27VAC at 60HZ
and the readings got stronger the further away from the energy field
which had developed around the device.
This circuit when set into resonance even without any "excitation" of
any kind will pull in "ambient" energy in this case the 60HZ flux
field present in the room. Would this be clasified as a "virtual
energy collector". Maybe Tesla was right about the possibility of a
"cosmic ray or energy collector".
Another interesting thing that we verified tonight was that the
natural ferro-magnetic frequency is approximately 174.9 KHZ. While the
MRA is operating with an input freq on Joels device (each magnet has
it's own operating or resonant freq) of 32.4KHZ the wave form can be
seen as a segmented line which under careful study shows by the broken
line segment count to be caused by a "phantom" oscillation from the
ferro-magnetic material that blanks the electron gun at a freq of
174.9 KHZ. We are using a good Techtronic 80 MHZ scope so this we find
real interesting for this opens the door to tapping energy directly
from the "earths magnetic field".
Everyone says that weight loss is associated with any device that
displays any over-unity tendacies. Well that too has been verified.
Joel will address this phenomenon in a later message but I am here to
tell you it is more exciting as time goes on here.
If I were to tell an electronics engineer that we have seen "negative
numbers" on current draw when this circuit is running would this mean
gain would be "infintiy"? Joel is going to have to explain this one
for we decided to use a 12VDC powered amplifier so we would have a
pure DC input so we could pin down the input current draw. Well if you
take the idleing current draw (amp unloaded) then tune the MRA for
maximum gain and the current draw goes to a negative number then what?
This will take some explaining.
More as we learn more.
Norm
PS: This circuit is absolutely over-unity.
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Message 10090 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 04:18 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: fractured traces Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
On your strange oscilloscope results: I see this often, when the
chopping frequency gets close to the frequency being triggered upon.
If you are seeing these segmented traces when the scope is in
ALTERNATE triggering (or on a single channel scope) then it is real.
But the chopper on a dual trace scope can easily create moving line
segments of various kinds without anything wierd going on. (Oh, I
meant that I see it often at work, when doing frequency sweeps on
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Message 10093 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 07:37 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
NW> Bert wants more info on the "indestructible" transistors you NW>
mentioned. Walter Rosenthal told me last night that he will not even
NW> hook up anything without a transient suppresion diode in the
circuit..
The idea is good, but you end up suppressing exactly what you are
trying to produce and measure.
I was referring to indestructible audio amps, which are made by
National Semiconductor. They do make indestructible transistors as
well tho. There is also some one else (Apex maybe?) that makes
indestructible transistors. I'll see if I can find the exact part
numbers at lunch. The NS audio amps are new and not in most data books
yet, but the transistors have been around for a long time.
Leave me your address and there will be a 1994 Harris "Transient
Voltage Suppression Devices" data book in the mail by the end of the
week.
One these devices watch out for their capacitance, it can be in the
hundreds of pF! Make sure it is specified.
We need to find a Calorimeter, these where the power meters of the
1800's, your not going to blow up one of these beasts! Check with your
local grade school science lab (or their supplier) these show up in
introductory courses to electricity.
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Message 10094 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 07:39 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
NW> Another interesting thing that we verified tonight was NW> that
the natural ferro-magnetic frequency is NW> approximately 174.9 KHZ.
This is a shot in the dark from my failing memory:
I remember reading in my collection of one device that worked at 14.7
KHz. I don't remember then name of it for sure, but it was the one
made with the large basket weave coils (Hendershot maybe?), you've
probably seen the thing it is one of the common leadgen devices in
this field.
174.9 KHz / 12 = 14.575 KHz.
14575 / 1944 = 7.49 Hz puts it down around the Schuman range. A
harmonic interaction with the Earth field?
This could account for the time of day effects. Do you note
significant changes at Sun Set and Sun Rise?
Maybe this is significant maybe it is not?????
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Message 10096 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 08:11 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bob:
Yes, as Joel has mentioned several times in the message base, we do
get variations in the output of the MRA at morning and evening
testing. Highest output is early morning as the sun is coming up.
I agree with your magnetic freqs for I have read many different
theories each with a different freq associated. Joel and I feel that
we have it narrowed down through better evidence than previous
researchers. We will soon know for sure with a few more test that we
have in mind. Will keep you posted.
Yes, Please send the "Harris Catalog", Norman Wootan, P.O. Box 141049,
Dallas TX 75214.
I'll see that Bert has access to it for he is the circuit "Guru".
Loves to play on the soldering bench.
I would like to get your comments on the 12VDC powered audio amp test
we did where the total current draw went down from an idle draw
reading to a reading with the MRA in the circuit. Do you have
reasonable explanation for this.
Joel says that this little Radio Shack Stereo booster 40W amp is
"class C" therefore can only go up on current draw when a load is
applied. If idle DC current draw is 344 Ma and goes down to 192 Ma
when the MRA is attached then what are we seeing.
Should we attach a thermocouple to the output transistors to see if
they are making "ice"? That is the only phenomenon that we have not
found that is usually associated with ZPE type devices.
For those that are new to the ZPE or "Space Vacuum tapping" scene
there have been numerous reports of over-unity type devices that
usually have one or more of the following phenomenon associated with
their operation.
(1) Over-unity output of energy of some sort whether it be heat,
electrical, mechanical or light. (2) Weight loss, anti-gravity
tendacies. (3) Cooling in the immediate area or in the device itself.
Joel and I would appreciate any and all comments.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10099 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 11:44 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: MRA Anomalies Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Eight days ago, the MRA was invented. Almost immediately, it began to
exhibit over-unity characteristics. However, there have also been a
lot of "quirky" effects...each taken separately might have been test
equipment error or technician error. However, these effects are
forming familiar patterns now...familiar but not always predictable.
The toll in dead and damaged test equipment so far is one panel mount
DVM, one frequency counter, two audio amplifiers, and numerous 60watt
light bulbs.
Sometimes, when supplying the MRA from a 12VDC powered audio amp, the
battery current will decrease compared to the battery current to the
amp with no load at all, and at the same time, amp output voltage will
increase...taken together, this indicates that the MRA is feeding
energy back into the amp. Later, with no changes to the circuit, the
MRA will behave like a normal load, and cause a small increase in
battery current with a small decrease in amp output voltage.
The voltage and current waveforms look like dotted lines, where each
dot and space segment is equal to 175KHz, which Norm and I believe is
the free running resonant frequency of ferrmagnetism.
We have never seen this before, and for that matter, neither has
anyone else that we've talked to about it. Even with nothing on
Channel B of the 'scope, the display will exhibit the dotted line
effect whenever the MRA is running and connected to Channel A.
Anything and everything in the field of the MRA is affected. Should
the MRA's output load become accidently disconnected while the MRA is
at resonance, an instantaneous and very powerful destructive surge
will occur.
I THINK that the MRA, by resonating a magnet at mass aggregate
frequency, is magnetically "linking" with everything in its field, and
behaving like an "energy pump". We see this when we walk up to it and
the output from the MRA goes up, even though the MRA is hooked up to a
resistive load which is causing it to provide current. This also
changes based upon the time of day relative to sunrise and set.
To test anything, you first must isolate it... by virtue of the design
of the MRA, it cannot be isolated. It intrinsically links itself to
everything with a coil or magnetic field, even to a quartz wristwatch
if it is in the same room. As such, we get varying power gains, and
the variations seem more to be a question of which test equipment is
on the table at the time of the test.
Please bear in mind that this is a brand new circuit...as far as that
goes, it's a whole new technology. Once the magnet has been resonated,
and then disconnected from the rest of the circuit, it will continue
to provide up to 25VAC at 60Hz using a human "antenna" to capture
ambient energy in the room. Last night, Norm and I were measuring
over-unity gains of 2X-3X, but we don't really know for sure if we
were "pumping" the energy electromagnetically out of the test
equipment, house wiring, earth's magnetic field, the ether, or some
combination of the above.
We need some independent testing by individuals with awareness of the
anomalies mentioned in this message. There is obviously a lot of power
"in flux" which collapses into the MRA if the load is removed, so
there will probably be more equipment lost. There is also a whole area
of gravitic anomalies to investigate, because the piezo will weigh
measurably less when it is in the MRA circuit, and regain the weight
when it is disconnected.
The original MRA is being sent out for engineering review, from which
we hope to learn more, but the more voices that are heard from, the
better our chances of finding out what is really happening.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10103 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 12:29 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Addendum to MRA Anomalies Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Just a few more notes, to avoid overly-lengthy messages.
If the MRA's gain is caused by "pumping" energy from the test
equipment, house wiring and earth's magnetic field due to
electromagnetic linkage, would that be the same as "wireless
electricity"? Tesla used the same frequency which is affecting our
oscilloscope trace.
Since the MRA is sensitive to sunset/sunrise, is it then going to
exhibit higher gains at ley lines and grid intersections?
With more power applied, will the MRA achieve zero gravity?
Why do we only see the EFFECT of 175KHz on the scope, and not the
waveform? Is it scalar energy being translated by the scope?
If the MRA is linking with earth's magnetic field, how can we isolate
test equipment, or for that matter, anything else on earth from it?
Send all answers and any light bulbs you can spare to Joel & Norm.
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Message 10104 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 14:11 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
NW> Bert wants more info on the "indestructible" transistors you NW>
mentioned.
Call up Apex Microtechnology and ask them for a data book:
800-546-APEX. They make driver IC/OP amps that will run on +/- 600VDC
(1200VDC total swing) at .5A, and other power parts. They also have
some parts that are speced to 15,000V/uS Dv/Dt. Dv/Dt maybe what is
burning up things rather than the absolute voltage. Some parts might
be able to handle 1,000VDC but ONLY if rises slow enough, to fast a
rise and you've got toasted parts. Check out the app notes in the back
of the book on such things. The bad news are these things cost *BIG*
bucks ($30-$500), but can still be a bargain when you considered the
system equivalents that they replace.
First this bad news the following part does NOT appear in the 1994
data book (bad sign):
From the Unitrode 1990 data book: "The Unitrode UC195/UC395 family of
devices are ultra reliable, fast, monolithic power transistors with
complete overload protection. The devices act as high gain power
transistors and have on chip, current limiting, power limiting, and
thermal overload protection, making them virtually impossible to
destroy"
Doesn't look like that will help much since we can't get them. I'm
still tracking down the N.S. part, they sold off their transistor
division. And I have the indestructible audio amp data sheets on
order.
An other company in the power area is Supertex Inc; 408-744-0100.
I'll keep looking for "indestructible" parts....
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Message 10105 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 14:18 From : DANIEL HILL -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA Folder : D, "Special Associates
Area Alpha"
One guy on the internet wants to know if you used the following
equation when calculating the reactive power: P = I x E x
cos(theta).
Note that theta is the degrees out of phase for I and E.
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Message 10112 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 18:30 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
The MRA is as we speak on a FED-EX flight to California going to
Walter Rosenthal for the independent testing. Maybe you could write up
some input and set up guidlines for Walter so as to assist his testing
effort. After all this is your hand built version. If you would, run a
few test runs on my "monster" MRA and we will send it to Hal down in
Austin or we could simply just wind another exactly your original so
they both would be testing identical units. What do you think?
Norm
PS: I'M waiting for an explanation as to why the overall current draw
went down on my MRA when we tried the 12VDC amp test. The 50Ma rise
was on your version. Remember we broke off the test when we got
"negative" numbers. "Infinity Gain"
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10113 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 19:23 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : DANIEL HILL Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Daniel,
If we need RMS power for comparison with, for example, changes in the
input power, yes we use the constant multiplier of 0.707, which is in
the file info that we provided. Whether this is the exact phase angle
for this circuit, without vector analysis, we don't know. The reason
why we can't be sure is that we are vectoring harmonics for the
express purpose of altering the effective impedance of the circuit.
This is NOT what they teach at DeVry, but it is how it works.
However, the world accepts the cosine of theta at 0.707 as the normal
AC circuit power factor multiplier, so we use it. To the extent that
the calculated output power performs the correct amount of work, such
as driving a motor, it is as close as we can determine to be accurate.
Joel
cc: Norman Wootan
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Message 10116 DATE/TIME: 12/21/94 22:08 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
Gremlins are back at work. I started to take the power amp back to
Radio Shack today but decided to do a test on it first. Glad I did for
it healed itself. Remember what I said about my circuit shutting down
and would do nothing? Well I think this MRA builds a field up around
it and blanks out some equipment. The amp is OK now and operating just
fine. Tonight I was running a new MRA like your original and suddenly
it shut down and I could not get any output from the seconday no
matter how much I increased the input to the piezo.
The only way I solved the problem was to swap sides on the circuit, in
other words swap the output leads over to the input and viseversa then
it took off running again. Glad this is a 1:1 turn ratio winding. This
a really weird device that will take some getting use to.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10122 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 08:49 From : MICHAEL FIDLER --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) MRA Anomalies Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Here is a simple test to see what kind and how large a field the MRA
is putting out. Use a superheterodyne radio to see if the radio
stations are band-shifted, both when running and turned off to see if
resonated magnet is still active, also with a radio that has a
low-band you can tune in the 174.9 KHZ resonate freq.
Please send me a meesage as to what the results are.
Michael
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Message 10124 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 11:19 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
NW> I'll see that Bert has access to it for he is the NW> circuit
"Guru".
A box of data books on power amps driving inductive power loads and
transients is packed will be on its way but the end of the day on
12/23/94. Wish we where closer to each other so you could use this
library of data books and such, and I could see this beast.
NW> ...if you have reasonable explanation for this. Joel says NW> that
this little Radio Shack Stereo booster 40W amp is NW> "class C"
therefore can only go up on current draw when a NW> load is applied.
If idle DC current draw is 344 Ma and goes NW> down to 192 Ma when the
MRA is attached then what are we NW> seeing.
I just talked to one of our guru's here. He said a "Class C" audio amp
made no sense at all "since it only conducts less than 50% of the time
you would only have distortion". [I'm assuming it was audio; didn't
see any other type in the catalog.]
Assuming you have a Class A, B, A/B or D, type he said this: "If told
me that you put a resistor load on and the current went down I
wouldn't believe it... with a reactive load how ever the Q of the
circuit could increase, increasing the impedance, in effect lowering
the power consumption." ... "The unloaded amp probably does have a
internal load of some type for self protection and your additional
load forms some type of tank circuit in the output."
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Message 10125 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 11:36 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Addendum to MRA Anomalies Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
>If the MRA's gain is caused by "pumping" energy from the test
>equipment, house wiring and earth's magnetic field due to elec-
>tromagnetic linkage, would that be the same as "wireless elec-
>tricity"? Tesla used the same frequency which is affecting our
>oscilloscope trace. > Get the MRA to run on a battery (not easy?),
then see if its output is sensitive to your pulling your house main
breaker. Or see if its output falls as you walk it farther and farther
from your house. . . > Since the MRA is sensitive to sunset/sunrise,
is it then going to > exhibit higher gains at ley lines and grid
intersections? > If you can get the MRA onto battery power, try my old
idea for Ley-line mapping: Take any free-energy device (even a
partially successful underunity device,) hook its output to a chart
recorder, then rather than letting the earth's day/night rotation do
your transportation for you, instead stick it in a car and go driving
on the interstate. You should randomly hit all kinds of minor
earthgrid patterns, and the chart recorder should go wild. And if you
drive back and forth over the same highway, the stripcharts should
look identical for the same stretch of road. If you were REALLY
ambitious, you could drive in a grid pattern at 3AM in a mall parking
lot and plot an actual map of patterns. Experimenters with rich
benefactors can take the old learjet out to fly grids over the entire
state, with the MRA hooked up to the custom mapping computers and the
GPS system built overnight by their R&D department! Any effects like
this should be nailed down, or you are going to end up sending
prototype MRAs to distant locations where they may mysteriously stop
working. If the MRA can suck energy from house wiring, it might also
make maps of overhead power lines as well as ley lines. I've never
tried this out, it's just one more thing on my long list. Along with
getting a rich benefactor. . . > With more power applied, will the MRA
achieve zero gravity? > Have you measured the weight changes with a
NONFERROUS, NONCONDUCTOR scale setup, so you can sort out the
conventional forces from the anomoly? At 10KHz a conductor can easily
repel metal objects through inductive levitation and create false
weight loss. At DC, a conductor can easily attract iron through normal
magnetism and create false weight gain. I would trust a homemade
wood/plastic balance beam hung far from metal lab bench tops. I would
NOT trust a standard laboratory triple beam, it could create all kinds
of false effects. . . . >Why do we only see the EFFECT of 175KHz on
the scope, and not the >waveform? Is it scalar energy being translated
by the scope? > As I mentioned to Norm, the chopper in the scope that
creates the dual traces will often get into sync with signals on the
scope, then the traces turn into line segments. If you still get the
same effect on a single channel scope, or on a scope in "ALTERNATE"
dualtrace mode, then it's a real effect and not due to the chopper. Of
course, it could also be a real effect that mysteriously reaches out
and alters the frequency of the scope's chopper oscillator! To check
this quick, see if an operating MRA can affect a simple oscillator
circuit hooked up to a freq counter. . . >If the MRA is linking with
earth's magnetic field, how can we isolate >test equipment, or for
that matter, anything else on earth from it? > Sounds like the same
"observer effect" that messes up parapsychology experiments by making
it impossible to separate them from the rest of the world. It
guarantees that conventional researchers will never believe your
results! Anyway, here's something to try: build a battery-powered MRA,
put it in a thick copper box so AC magnetism can't get out, then see
if this device will affect the operation of ANOTHER mra by
intercepting some of the energy flux coming into the second one. .
Well, the ol' XMAS phenomena will at least free up some time so I can
finally build this damn thing. I have a couple of 1/4" thick, 1.5"
transducers and some radio shack ceramic mags, and have just ordered
some 4"x2" slabs from H & R.
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Message 10126 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 11:39 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA questions Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I have a couple of questions about MRA whose answers will help me
during internet arguements. . What does the waveform across the
oscillator look like on the scope? Even though the osc. is set to
sinewave out, does the signal stay sinusoidal? . Same on the series
resistor: what does the voltage (current) waveform look like? Would it
be easy for you to draw the waveforms in ASCII characters? . What does
the DC output look like on the scope? Is it dead steady, or are there
lots of 10KHZ spikes? In the same line, do you still get o/u effects
if you put, say, a 100uF electrolytic AND a .1uf tantalum on the DC
output as a wideband filter? . Do you have an instant camera? If so, a
photo of one of your devices can be put on my internet site
immediately, which will be a great help for all the people asking
questions about the exact setup. . All these questions will be
answered in a week or so when I finally get time to build my own
version. But to get the info out faster, I'm asking them anyway. . On
the oscillator: if the output does not stay sinusoidal when its
driving the MRA, it could be the fault of phase effects on the current
draw messing up the pushpull drive stage. A feedback amplifier would
cure this. I just hope that installing a feedback type oscillator
driver won't eliminate the overunity. If it does, it suggests that the
overunity is some weird kind of measurement problem and is not real.
If it doesn't, then thats one more nail in the coffin of
petroleum-based energy economy!
cc: Joel Mcclain
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Message 10131 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 14:26 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Test of the "monster" MRA
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Tested the "monster" MRA with two magnets, large coils and four
piezos. First tested it with low power from the sig gen only, then
with the amplifier. Since the piezos were in parallel, I tested both
parallel and series connections. Also tested just the transformer,
with no piezos. The transformer alone is just under unity (half of one
percent difference in power) at 144.5KHz. With all of the piezos in
the circuit, the power out ratio dropped off.
Found that the best gain was with only one piezo, which added 1.2%
over unity with the sig gen alone, and 11.8% with the amplifier. I
used a regulated 12VDC 10A power supply to power the amplifier, so
that there would be no chance of current dropping off as load was
added, and found that the additional drain to the supply with the MRA
connected was 40ma. It took 180 ohms of equivalent load on the output
of the amp to produce the same 40ma increase, so the MRA "looks like"
180 ohms to the output of the amp. That is the effective impedance of
the MRA, which we can use to determine current and power into the MRA.
With 9.73VAC output from the amp at 180 ohms, and 18.8VAC from the MRA
at 600 ohms, we have 372mw RMS into the MRA and 416mw RMS out, which
is 1.12 times unity.
I think that the reason why the gain isn't higher is that the
difference between max power out of the MRA and max power gain of the
MRA is too wide of a spread in frequency. We used 85% as a "rule of
thumb" with the first MRA, but this one requires 70% change, which
puts us on the edges of the resonant range, and we lose much of the
power of the harmonics. I'm not sure whether this is a result of using
two magnets or more wire or a combination of the two, but the best
power gains seem to occur where the freq spread between max power and
max gain is less.
We'll have to experiment with number of turns on a single magnet to
find the "sweet spot"...no pun intended.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10132 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 15:31 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: ALSO TO MICHAEL FIDLER AND BOB
PADDOCK Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Answering as many questions as possible in one message.
Bob - Your guru is right. The current drop was seen on a DVM, and is
likely caused by a meter error as a result of the surge at power-on.
Also, a drop in input voltage would naturally cause a corresponding
drop in input current, so we are using a ten amp regulated supply to
avoid that pitfall. The current increases by 40ma after the initial
surge, as measured on an analog meter.
Michael - The aggregate resonant frequency is between 34KHz and 35KHz,
although we found the resonant frequency of the magnet to be around
8KHz to 11KHz. The 174.9KHz is what we believe to be the resonant
frequency of ferromagnetism, based upon Tesla's experiments and some
of our own. We don't see this in the circuit on an oscilloscope, but
we see wave chopping at this rate.
Bill - The signals which we are inputting and extracting are all
sinusoidal. We're using battery power as much as possible, although
the sig gen is AC powered, and we've had to use a 12VDC supply to
avoid battery drops during measurements. I'm not sure what the retrace
or refresh rates are for this scope, but it should be higher than
175KHz on a 80MHz scope, I would guess. Yes, I know how the "observer
effect" is interpreted in mainstream science, except for the folks who
work at particle accelerators who have both seen and documented it.
There is an "interconnectedness of all things", but once it's
measurable, mainstream science jumps all over it. God bless them,
every one.
Since the "original recipe" MRA has been sent out for engineering
analysis, we'll have to wait until its return before we can use it for
more tests.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10134 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 17:10 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) Addendum to MRA Anomalies
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill!
That's some real food for thought that has applications with a gravity
wave detector circuit.... it too could be driven over an area and the
field mapped to produce a topology... Townsend Brown did this back in
the 40's I think on a Navy submarine... James Hartman sent me a copy
of the book with the details... nothing spectacular but it definitely
showed gravitic anomalies, way before the 'mascons' discovered on the
lunar surface...
excellent idea Bill!... >>> Jerry
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Message 10137 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 17:47 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA1.ASC and RULE9.ASC Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Have you posted these two files on Internet yet?? I think along with
Joel that it may be wise for us at this time to go ahead an post this
out to the world if you have not done so yet. What do you think?
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10138 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 17:49 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Capacitor Charging in
MRA Field Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry:
I have been thinking about the thread that you and I had going back in
the summer about how capacitors could be charged by dropping them or
spinning them. Well Joel and I are going to do some cap charging test
via the MRA fiels. If we are getting this anomolous energy fields that
will show up to 27VAC on a meter with everything turned off it is
possible to use the device as a passive tuned energy collector. Sort
of like Tesla's Cosmic Ray Converter inwhich he charged capacitors and
drove simple motor devices. Worth a few hours of test setup.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10139 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 18:22 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: ALSO TO BILL BEATY Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I spoke with Walter Rosenthal and faxed him some information. He just
received the MRA and will start testing it today. He described the
equipment that he has (the stuff of dreams). I reiterated the warning
to protect his equipment in the event of an open secondary load, and
he will use zener type suppressors for that.
Now we wait...ok, I'm waiting... are we there yet?
Hi Bill,
I missed your question about the rectified output. It is DC with maybe
a half volt of ripple, but no spikes. I could probably filter out the
ripple by using a good electrolytic cap, but the half volt at 18-20VDC
didn't affect the operation of the DC motor on the output. Don't
bother to argue with anyone on the I-Net. We've given everyone the
information, and if they'd rather argue about it than build it, they
aren't really interested.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10141 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 21:09 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: (R) Addendum to MRA
Anomalies Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry,
Thank you... I didn't pick up on the implications, so glad you did.
You know, the first g-wave detector that I built went nuts when that
last big earthquake hit Japan. It was the electrolytic capacitor with
a 747 and a small piezo speaker. Maybe the MRA could be monitored by
someone in CA next to a seismograph to see if it can correlate
tectonic activity with gravity fluctuations... maybe even help give
some warning in advance. It would be worth it just for that alone.
Increases in solar wind as a result of solar flares might also be
detected in time to shift power lines to avoid power failures.
Actually, if the MRA is made directional, it could detect any large
energy shift from any source, because they are all reflected on the
earth grid at near light speed. Here in Texas, we could "see"
tornadoes forming. Might just be the early warning system for all
natural (and unnatural) occasions.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10142 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 21:28 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I wonder if your output rectifiers are a necessary part of the device?
Have you tried running it with an AC output and using scope
measurements? Might it still work?
cc: Joel Mcclain
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Message 10144 DATE/TIME: 12/22/94 22:00 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Capacitor Charging in MRA
Field Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm!
Sounds like a great experiment if there is truly a field present... it
might even have time distortion effects as with the DePalma
claims...since the Nieper and some of Townsend Browns experiments also
seemed to 'dilate' time... I never understood if it was TRULY a time
dilation or simply an impeding effect on the mechanical clock
mechanism and that might apply to digital also via electron flow
quenching.... perhaps Joels NEONDET circuit, using the neon to detect
scalar type changes might be useful to 'scan' the area around the
device while in operation...and that in turn leads to the gamma
emission detector used by Joe Parr in his rotating pyramid experiments
where the energy bubble 'grew' from the center of the King's
chamber... lots of permutations.... it would make the most sense to
stick with the normal measurements first, then go to the spook field
theories... a capacitor, being a stressed dielectric might be an ideal
collector of such aether interferences.... I really like Bills idea of
scanning ley lines and generating some kind of map... I was just
talking with Eric Duchaine from Canada and he mentioned that a
geologist friend of his told him the ley lines of the planet are
shifting from their position due to large crystal and other mining
processes... We also discussed whether these were a MAN MADE GRID that
was being disrupted by a lack of understanding or whether it was a
natural grid based on the earths own geometry.... and what would be
the effects once it reached a certain point of anomaly.....
Eric is a storehouse of interesting information and a practicing
acupuncturist who runs his own BBS... he is very with us in the same
kinds of studies with an emphasis on Reich's Orgone... he is going to
call Ronnie Mcwilliams about his radioactive element/orgone
stimulation experiments....
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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10147 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 01:16 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- To
: NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: 150 turn MRA test Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I tested the MRA which you made per the schematic with 150 turns on
primary and secondary, on a single magnet. It checks out at 4.63 time
unity. Also, I have observed the analog current meter reading lower
with the MRA in the circuit than when it is out. Here's the data:
(RMS).
Secondary output = 14.3VAC @ 600 ohms = 241mw for a net change in DC
current to the amp of zero ma. Resistive equivalent on the output for
zero ma change is 1300 ohms @ 9.75VAC output, so power = 52mw to the
MRA. 241mw / 52mw = 4.63 gain.
When the freq was adjusted so that the output of the MRA was 12VAC @
600 ohms, the input current to the amp decreased by 10ma. It is not
possible to calculate gain because this is an effective output
impedance greater than infinity. Supply voltage to the amp was 11.89
volts DC from a ten amp regulated supply and did not vary at all.
Somehow, the MRA is increasing the impedance of the amp to the DC
supply, possibly reducing the conduction of transistors.
Joel
cc: Bob Paddock
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Message 10149 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 01:18 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: Diodes Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
We used a bridge rect. but that was so we could get useful work out of
the MRA, ie, driving a motor, a fluorescent camping lantern, etc., but
for measurement purposes, AC RMS is fine...it's sinusoidal output.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10150 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 01:40 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: internet MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
From: John Brock <xbrock@deathstar.cris.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994
11:19:51 +0000 Subject: Over unidty device . Sir.
Is there a Email address to get to one of the original people who are
working this device. There are a couple of concerns I feel that need
to be addressed..... . 1. MRA should be NMRA as what you maybe dealing
with is Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Amplifier. As you are flipping the
Magnetic fields in the magnetic core you are producing Energy the
question is at what cost. The following simple and inexpensive
procedures may answer a few questions and raise many more. . IF
possible introduce a low level radio active material close to you
device. The radium dial on a watch or any object that glows in the
dark when exposed to sunlight or better yet a small amount of a radio
active element ...record radiation levels before and after a 24 hr
exposure to device. In case of a glow in the dark element determine
how long it wil glow be fore exposure to device and than after
exposure to device. . Next take 2 equal amounts of water... using one
as a control expose the other to device.. Have water checked by a
chemist for changes...(extra elections or ions) or lack of also see if
water is being broken down by electro chemical reaction with
device.... . It is my belief your device may have some rather
interesting effects at low power levels and some very dangerous
effects as size and power are increased... . It is possible to upset
the balance of matter only so far before things start to happen..
Materials may start changing or in some cases start coming aparts in
unual ways... This device may have applications in areas other than
free energy which need to be explored and may hold even greater
promise... Consider the possiblity of reducing or using spent nuclear
material or waste as a sourse of direct energy. Extracting the deadly
radiation and turning it into electrical energy. This may also apply
to complex chemical chains with high atomic numbers. . As has been
observed and noted by a number of people who have written about there
experience with this device on the internet...They feel that there is
a field of influence around this object (flux fields, draws power from
surrounding areas) . YOU MAY NEED TO FEED YOUR LITTLE BABY SOMETHING
AS SIMPLE AS WATER WHEN YOU START INCREASING POWER LEVELS AND CURRENT
OUTPUT. . using [ rest of text didn't make it down the connections....
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Message 10151 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 01:42 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA testing Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Here's a couple of suggestions off the internet: . Do you have
measurements on the load and the current-sampling resistor values?
Damn shame if they were mismarked and never checked. . The circuit may
be altered by connecting meters to it and throwing off the resonance
peak. So, connect everything once and make simultaneous measurements.
. If you have not done so, you could put the current-sample resistor
in series with the oscillator output terminal that's grounded. Then
you can ground the scope to the same terminal, use one channel to look
at the other end of the resistor, and the other to look at the
oscillator voltage. A separate instrument would still be needed to
look at output voltage. . So, any luck with the duplicate versions?
cc: Joel Mcclain
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Message 10153 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 01:48 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: internet arguements Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
So far it looks like arguing on the internet IS worthwhile. As soon as
skeptics hear that actual oscilloscopes are being used, and that the
output really is DC, they start asking where to get piezos! Also, the
same people who are nasty on the public newsgroups come around later
via private mail wanting more info on parts.
Interesting...
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Message 10156 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 08:56 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Please relay to John Brock on Internet the fact that since I am also
experimenting with "cold fusion" and have been doing so since back in
1987 (before pons & Fleishman), that I have already seen the
corelationship with the "transmutation" that is occuring in the cold
fusion cells that John Brokris down at A&M is most excited about. I
have a Mills Nickle & Potassium Carbonate cell running that gets
cooler as it runs instead of emiting heat as normal. If the cell is
absorbing energy in an indothermic reaction then the only conclusion
is that some sort of "transmutation is taking place.
It is my intent to couple the MRA effect to the "cold Fusion" effect
to determine exactly what you are implying about "sub atomic activity"
that we cannot at this time understand much less detect.
There is so much to be learned here that it exactly why Joel and I
elected to go "Internet Public Domain" so that researchers al over the
world could apply what we have only "skimmed the surface" on. The
implications are more far reaching that any one person can conceive
of.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10157 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 09:08 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA1.ASC & Rule9.ASC Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Bill:
Have you posted these two files to Internet? Please do so if you will
for they are very important to the full understanding of what we know
about this phenomenon.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10158 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 09:26 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Please send to John Brock and all on Internet the following:
Back in April 1989 I wrote a paper which was submitted to the Patent
Office for a Patent Search to determine if anyone had approached the
Fusion or Cold Fusion Question with the technology that I was
proposing. Well the Patent Search came back clean. No one had thought
of my approach to this "vexing" question as to what drives the "Cold
Fusion" reaction.
The title of my paper is:
"A METHOD TO IMPROVE, ACCELERATE AND PROVIDE COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE
NUCLEAR FUSION OF DEUTERIUM OR OTHER ELEMENTS OR ISOTOPES IN THE COLD
NUCLEAR FUSION PROCESS (WET ELECTROLYTIC CELL) AND IN THE GAS ATONIC
BOMBARDMENT PROCESS (DRY GAS CELL) AT RELATIVELY LOW TEMPERATURES
THROUGH THE UTILIZATION OF HIGH POTENTIAL, HIGH FREQUENCY
ELECTROSTATIC RESONANCE.
Please note that I did not say Magnetic Resonance. This approach has
been totally ignored by researchers even though I have given out
copies of the proposed method. Now it is my intent to take this method
through the "BACKDOOR" if you will of "ACADEMIA" through the
application of the MRA device. When you plow with a Missouri Mule you
get his attention by "wacking" him over the head with a 2X4.
All of this technology goes back to John Keely and Nikola Tesla back
in the 1890's time frame. Nikola Tesla explained how to take the
"atom" appart in his lecture to the "London Institute" back in 1892
but everyone who reads the transcript of the lecture misses the point
he was making. So much is there to be learned or should I say
"re-learned" for we are only turning up technology that was understood
in "antiquity".
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10160 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 11:16 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: OHMS versus MHOS Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Last night I left a message for Norm describing a decrease in current
to an amplifier as having theoretical greater than infinity impedance
for purposes of calculating power gain. That has been bugging me ever
since, so I went back to the drawing board.
In MRA theory, the phase relationship of harmonics is used to reduce
the current flow from the input source. This results in a nonlinear
power in | power out relationship, or ratio. This is mentioned in the
file MRA1.ASC here on KeelyNet. This is actually done by tuning the
input frequency to the MRA for maximum AC output on its output
terminals, then DEtuning the MRA for the most favorable power gain.
Detuning causes powerful harmonics to oppose the flow of input
current, while continuing to contribute to the circulating current in
the primary coil. This alters the EFFECTIVE impedance, and gives the
MRA its gain. So far, so good. But what do we make of it when this
effective impedance causes the input power of the amp to decline? The
lowest level of input, in theory, is in "standby" mode, with no load
attached, so that in measurement terms, the amp "sees" a resistor of
infinite ohms on its output.
Up until now, the signal input from the signal generator to the amp
has not been given serious consideration because of its extremely low
power, 0.1mw at the input of the amp. However, this signal biases the
transistors in the amp. As the MRA's output power increases, the
signal at the output of the sig gen also increases, indicating that
the amp's input impedance increases directly with its input and output
power. Detuning the MRA causes an exact reversal of this process. It
was found that at 3.3VAC @ 600 ohms output from the MRA, the
transistors are at only 55% conduction. So, it is not the power from
the signal source that DIRECTLY affects output power, but the PHASE of
the input relative to the reflected phase of the harmonics from the
MRA that cause the reduction in input current to the amp.
I know that this is hard to visualize without the equipment sitting in
front of you, but for those who will eventually build an MRA, this
information may be useful. Now, how do we calculate gain when the
input current to the amp decreases under the "load" of the MRA? We
have to see the MRA as producing MHOS, the opposite of OHMS (yes, MHOS
exist in theory...I'm not making this up). Due to the effects of
interphase relationships, the load (MRA) crosses the line from being a
load to being a source, and the extent to which it reduces amp power
is gain IFF a corresponding output gain is seen or if the MRA output
stays the same while input power decreases.
The MHOS from the MRA, by forcing the transistors to conduct below
standby levels, are using power which is "borrowed" from the secondary
circuit. The power at the secondary is not "free" just because the
input power to the amp is less than standby. The output power of the
MRA also drops, so there is no gain at this point. The reduced
conduction below standby crosses a threshhold where the harmonic
content "cuts off its own nose" by reducing input power below the
level where harmonics are beneficial, ie, to the point where
circulating current in the primary is reduced to a level which causes
unity or less gain. Bad Mhos, bad...no dessert for you!
Your comments are welcome.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10162 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 12:53 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) internet MRA Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
Yes, the MRA draws power from outside of itself. That is because the
core is a magnet, and a magnet is in a constant state of collapse
which is why it tries to "pull in" materials with similar lattice
structures...to fill the energy void which was created when it was
first magnetized.
The MRA allows the magnet to attempt to restore its matter/energy
balance, or to demagnetize itself...slowly. We are resonating the
magnet and it responds by collapsing energy into itself, via the coils
which pick up this "surplus" energy and deliver it to a load.
The total energy drawn before the magnet is no longer a magnet will be
less than the energy "stored" in its imbalance. If there was a
"radioactive" reaction, it would have been immediate and very large in
the original magnetization process, yet magnetizing is considered to
be safe.
I think that the MRA would hurt you if you dropped it on your foot,
but I'll let that assumption ride without empirical evidence.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10164 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 15:30 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA Energy Pump Test Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I've stated here and in the MRA files that the MRA is an energy
absorber, which we have seen evidenced, but which I can now prove. Set
up your MRA in 85% mode, and let it "warm up". Then, reset the
secondary output to half of the maximum output voltage by further
detuning the input frequency.
Put an aluminum foil shield over it (I'm using an old pyramid made of
kite sticks and foil). The output will go down as the shield keeps
energy from getting to the MRA. Remove the shield, and the output goes
right back up. Because aluminum is non-ferrous, the gain of the MRA
can only be affected by the flow of energies external to the device.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10165 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 17:56 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: Another MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I've put together an MRA circuit using a 4" speaker magnet and a 1.5"
piezo slug. No o/u effects apparent yet. There is so voltage
multiplication when its run at the piezo resonance freq, but the
thhroughput is only 50% at that point. Its worse at other frequencies.
I find no electrical resonance of the magnet/coil, the only resonance
is of the piezo. The piezo ressonates at 55khz alone, 48khz when in
the circuit. . I've posted mra1.asc and rule9.asc on my internet web
page. . I wonder if something in particular is required to make this
circuit go o/u. Maybe location? I hope the device still works when
it's sent elsewhere for verification! . All the waveforms I've seen so
far have almost no harmonics. My numbers come from Vpp readings off a
scope, not from any DVMs. I'm awaiting some ceramic slab magnets from
H&R, so I may still findd out more. I wonder if the MRA reqires its
magnet to be free to acoustically resonate? If the coil is wound so as
to dampen the vibration and sound, and if things like electrical tape
are used improperly, the magnet won't vibrate. Will this mess things
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Message 10172 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 20:51 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: The 300 turn secondary and 60W bulbs Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
There was an error in message # 10148...the MRA tested today was made
by Norm for test, and has a two to one step up ratio, ie, 150 turns on
the primary, 300 turns on the secondary. From what I can measure, this
is superior to the original one-to-one ratio of the first MRA, which I
wound to test theory. Makes sense though, because as the magnet
inhales energy, the more secondary you have, the more energy will be
collected for the load.
Also, have noticed that when light bulbs (ordinary 60W bulbs) blow,
they do so with great vigor and a brighter than normal flash. The
filament is exploded off of its posts, and flies around the inside of
the bulb with enough force to leave striations on the glass.
In the past, I have associated this with an accumulation of virtual
particles on the neutral lines of the house (from other experiments).
This accumulation causes the lines to superconduct when a light switch
is turned on, because the neutral is no longer neutral but at an
elevated virtual potential. The effect is the same.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10175 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 22:08 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Since you have been such a valuable asset to us in getting out the
word to the Internet and Compuserve I am going to send to you an
"original" piezo and magnet of the type that we are using in our MRA
devices.
As you have seen by Joel's message prior to this one he has run test
on one of my 2:1 ratio MRA units. I have built 6 MRA's to date and all
have displayed over-unity to differing degrees. I have been playing
with different configurations of magnets and winding ratios while Joel
is doing the "hard core" testing. Heck most of my equipment is out at
his house. Just kidding for we have duplicate of all test equipment
and so does Bert Pool in our group. This way we all three can build
independent of one another and compare results.
Joel is sending the 2:1 ratio MRA that I built to Harold Puthoff down
in Austin for additional testing while Walter Rosenthal is testing the
original MRA out in California.
I will get your care package off to you Tuesday along with a document
that I want you to post to Internet.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10176 DATE/TIME: 12/23/94 23:56 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: Merry Christmas Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
I don't think that all combinations of piezo and magnet types will
work. The evolution in the original design was first, the resonating
of a magnet, and determining the resonant range of the magnet, and
second, adding a piezo which would resonate three octaves above the
magnet. The magnets which we are using will "sing" a pure tone at just
over 8KHz, and double that is 16KHz, and double that is 32KHz. The
freqs that we are applying to our MRAs is beween 34 and 35KHz. This is
also just below the peak resonant range of the piezos which we are
using, and which were originally designed for ultrasonic welding.
The lattice structure of the piezo and magnet should also be
compatible in order to get the harmonics... cube lattices, which are
nested tetrahedrons. First wind a primary and secondary around your
magnet, and apply a variable frequency to the primary while watching
the secondary on a scope or high freq meter. Where the secondary
output peaks, you have the resonant freq for the magnet.
Use that to find a piezo which has a resonant range three octaves
higher. The easiest thing would be for you to use the same parts that
we are using...they have already been found to be harmonious. If you
want to experiment with what you have available, that's fine too, and
may yield more and better results, or at least useful data on which
combinations don't work until you find one that does. ou will have to
keep your mass aggregate freq well below 100KHz, or you will be above
the alpha cutoff freq of audio xistors and diodes... you won't be able
to get DC out, in other words.
Let us know what you want to do.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10178 DATE/TIME: 12/24/94 01:44 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) internet arguements Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill!
Same old story, "I knew it all along...".... <g> ......can't count the
number of times I've heard it in regard to many other areas of life
and research/experimentation....some interesting questions seem to
have been raised however, esp. by John Brock with his Nuclear tapping
hypothesis, reminds me of the Theta device which is claimed to produce
power for up to 300 years before 'the material wears out'.... a slow
decay to produce useable power....
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10188 DATE/TIME: 12/24/94 11:20 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA as a "solar" device Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
As Paul Harvey would say, now here's the "rest of the story" on the
MRA as an energy pump. The energy source is the earth magnetic field,
which gets its power from the combination of rotation and solar wind
from the sun, so the MRA is technically a solar power device. As the
MRA "warms up", it is extending its vortex upward and "linking" with
layered fields of the atmosphere. At each link point, you will see the
MRA output increase by a specific quantum interval.
The MRA is attracting the electromagnetic energies, and funneling them
back to the magnet, through the coils, which couple a portion of the
energy to the load. Other conductors which are in the path of the
vortex also collect energy, specifically the neutral wires. You can
reduuce the output of the MRA by detuning it, and within a few hours,
the output will be back up as a result of the quantum linked
increases, and regardless of the energy applied to drive the MRA's
oscillations.
BTW, the MRA does have max output when the coils are aligned with
magnetic north and south... and drops off when the coils are aligned
toward east and west.
You are going to have a LOT of fun with this!
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10191 DATE/TIME: 12/24/94 12:18 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA has a 'magic square'
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I THINK that we have a 'magic square' relationship with the magnet,
because when it was resonated in the 'monster' test, it was almnost at
unity (with no piezo) at 144.5KHz. If we divide 144.5 by 17.5, we get
8.25KHz, and three octaves up is the mass aggregate frequency of the
MRA. Why divide by 17.5? Because it is the Khz multiple of 175KHz, the
ferroresonant frequency. Another piece of the puzzle is now in place.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10192 DATE/TIME: 12/24/94 12:34 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
I built a second 2:1 ratio MRA and began testing this morning after
conditioning the magnet and piezo through the night. Well here are the
numbers that by the way have all been verified via scope measurements
in addition to meter readings: Input; @ 34364 HZ, 1.385 VAC @ .000167A
for an output of 4.89VDC into 10,000 OHM load @ .000433A on which I
have applied no PF correction on the input which according to my
calculations yields a 9.18:1 power gain. Check the figures and
comments are welcome.
There seems to be a big debate going on in various minds as to the
application of the .707 PF correction when we are not sure of the
exact nature of this circuit ie, do we have a capacitive leading
current circuit or is it an inductive, current lagging circuit? The
way I understand PF correction is that you have to know the degree of
lead/lag relationship between the voltage trace and the current trace.
Am I correct or not in this statement?
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10194 DATE/TIME: 12/24/94 14:50 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: The Rule of Nines...revisited
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Connect two MRAs together, with the output of the second connected
across the primary of the first. Get them in resonance, and then turn
off the sig gen. They will become self-resonant exactly three octaves
above the freq that you were applying (Rule of Nines again), and the
output power will go up 200-300%. Then turn the sig gen back on, and
see how long it takes to get the circuit back "under control" of the
sig gen.
Because we are resonating each MRA at the third octave of the magnet,
that means that we are at the first octave of a greater aggregate,
which occurs as the free running frequency. Three octaves above
33.75KHz is 135KHz, the free running freq, which is equal to the
ferromagnetic 175KHz minus the magnet res freq and the piezo res freq.
Given enough drive, this bird will fly.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10196 DATE/TIME: 12/24/94 20:55 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
On the MRA parts-
That would be excellent. I can do things at work such as: take
printouts from the 500mhz dig. scope and pump them through a program
to calculate actual power, nonlinear responses and all. If the device
goes overunity, I will nail down the proof or die trying (that is, if
others haven't done it first!) I can run long lists of parameters
through it and collect results, so graphs can be collected and the
overunity operating regions put down in detail.
Thanks! ANything I can do... ----------------------------------------
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Message 10200 DATE/TIME: 12/25/94 13:30 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Creactive Effect Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The purpose of this message is to introduce a new term to describe the
type of components which are used in tuned resonant devices. In the
past, "active" has been used to describe switching parts, such as
vacuum tubes and transistors. "Passive" is used to describe components
such as carbon resistors, and "reactive" to describe coils and
capacitors, which react to changes in frequency by altering their
impedance to the flow of current. All of these devices consume power
in application.
None of these apply very well to components that consume power but
which also use resonance to tap the ether for equal or greater power
than that which they consume. Therefore, to fill the void in usable
vocabulary, I suggest the term "creactive". The term implies that
something is created, which is NOT the case...energy cannot be
created... however, the EFFECT of actively resonating material for the
TRANSLATING of energies gives the appearance of creating energy.
The components are not creactive unless and until they are in the
process of creating the effect. This should not be too confusing, as
the same relationsip exists with other components. A coil, for
example, has no impedance...only resistance...to DC current. It is
passive to DC, and reactive to AC. If anyone has a better terms to
suggest, or sees any technical problem with "creactive", please let me
know.
Thanks!
Joel ----------------------------------------
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10209 DATE/TIME: 12/26/94 10:07 From : JAMES JOHNSON -- RECEIVED -- To
: NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Chopped Sine Wave Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Norm, last month I was plotting sine waves using Mathcad trying to
determine what Keely was doing with his destructive use of harmonics.
It appeared to me that he was subtracting out the 3rd, 9th, 27th,
81st, 243rd & etc. harmonics from the 1st harmonic. The 6th harmonic
may have been added to create a shrinking effect on a molecule
however? He kept saying that large impulses were being created when he
was plucking his strings. The frequencies that were creating these
impulses seemed to be in the tetraherz range which he deduced from his
vibrating hydrogen bubbles and the refracted and reflected light
waves. Anyway, while plotting numerous combinations of harmonics a
pattern started to emerge that blew my mind.
There appeared to be the formation of a normal low frequency sine wave
that was being chopped into regular occurring parts. These parts were
created when large spikes of higher frequencies with fast rise times
would shoot up and down from the ends of each part. As each succeeding
harmonic was subtracted, the amplitude of the impulses became greater.
I was not able to go beyond the 243rd harmonic because of Mathcad's
limitations in plotting points. Keely was dealing with very high
frequencies, even though each individual harmonic at these frequencies
was not very powerful by itself the combined harmonics I feel produce
tremendous pulses that could rip apart most any substance. There
appeared also a pattern of smoothing the chopped sine wave as the
higher harmonics were being subtracted. You might be seeing these
effects on your scope when testing the MRA circuit. The dual trace
feature on the scope could be also causing trouble as already
suggested. If it is, throw the damm thing out and use a pendulum or a
pair of diving rods!
One thing that keeps popping up in Mrs. Moore's book on Keely is that
Keely seemed to be using segmented silver, gold and platinum wires as
well as some bar stock attached to his devices as band pass filters.
This appeared to allow him to pass selected frequencies to various
parts of his apparatus in the proper sequence. The idea that he
produced all frequencies at the same time does not seem to be true.
There appears to be a very definite sequence of frequencies applied
that created the required harmonics.
Those using sound boards in their computers should be aware by now
that digital producing sine waves are really chunky when dealing with
high frequencies. The Mathcad simulation that I use really brings this
home when using less points. Great numbers of points are needed to
produce the finer details that are required to observe some of the
above sine wave chopping. ----------------------------------------
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Message 10213 DATE/TIME: 12/26/94 19:56 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Retesting for Motor Drive
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Went "back to basics" today, since everything had been put away (off
the kitchen table) for Christmas. Retested the 2:1 MRA, and adjusted
the input freq to give an even 40VAC across 600 ohms, and the input
from the amp was 20VAC to the MRA primary. Disconnected the MRA from
the amp and connected the amp to the decade box, and found that the
equivalent resistance was 430 ohms. So...
MRA output = 40 / 600 = 0.067A X 40 = 2.67 X .707 = 1.89W
MRA input = 20 / 430 = 0.047A X 20 = 0.93 X .707 = 0.66W
Gain = 2.86 times unity
However, when the Pittman motor was connected, the piezo became more
conductive, and the power gain dropped to unity or less, so I tried
six other piezos to find one that would handle the motor load without
breaking down...no luck. The first piezo had a lot of miles on it from
other tests before we used it to run the motor, and these piezos are
fairly new, so it may take a lot of conditioning before they can
handle a motor, or maybe an oxide coating has to build up on the
surfaces. If the load is too heavy, detuning has no effect.
The piezo that we sent to Walt wasn't "motor tested", so if he loads
it very much, it will probably not make unity. However, under
resistive loads such as today's test, it is fine.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10214 DATE/TIME: 12/26/94 23:03 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Back in Business... Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
After trying six piezos, the seventh was good. It went through the
resistive test better than the others, and on the DC motor, gave 3X
gain, with 801mw in and 2.44W out. The input is AC RMS, and the output
is DC. Not sure why the difference with this piezo, but will try to
find out what is different about it.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10215 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 07:32 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To :
JAMES JOHNSON Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
James: Excellent report on the "sine wave chopping". See you are
verifying exactly what I have been saying all along about trying to
replicate "John Keely's" work with computer generated wave forms. It
won't work for you have to have the purest sine wave that is
obtainable to achieve the results we are looking for. The MRA circuit
is the same effect, you have to use sine wave input to set up the dual
resonance required in the piezo and magnet at 3 octave separation or
you get "NO CIGAR". Thanks for the report. I am still looking for the
"Hammond organ" sine wave generator before proceeding any further on
the "water dissosiation".
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10216 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 07:38 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA (Bill Beaty Version) Folder
: A, "Public Mail"
Joel: I set up Bill's MRA yesterday before leaving for San Antone to
visit my son and daughter. It burned in from 8:00AM till 1:00AM this
morning so it is well seasoned now for delivery to Bill. Will jot down
the parameters so he won't have any trouble booting it off for his
test. It is a carbon copy of the 12:1 I/O ratio for it has the 2:1
winding ratio like the last one I delivered to you.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10218 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 09:19 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Oxide coating and solder Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm,
Now that the MRA has been conditioned with the new piezo, the
effective impedance of the circuit is slightly over 2500 ohms, and the
power gain is 14.3, with the motor load. It came up within a half hour
of powering it up...output and input voltages both climbing until the
DC out was 15% less than max, while the voltage applied climbed until
there was no drop across the MRA.
I used the decade box across the power in, and adjusted it until the
input voltage was starting to drop, which was at 2500 ohms. It is now
tuned and balanced at 33.83KHz.
The only difference with this piezo that is visible is in the method
of soldering the leads. I dripped a ball of solder on each side, and
there is flux around its edges on the piezo. I then tinned the leads
and melted them into the solder balls. I think that this works because
it doesn't break through the oxide coating. Reminds me of Bearden's
concept, the "old wire" idea...only works if you don't scrape through
to the copper.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10220 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 15:04 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Ultimate Test Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I just did the "ultimate" test of the MRA, proving that it is over
unity even if you assume that the amplifier which feeds it is 100%
efficient. I measured actual AC current to the amplifier, both with
the MRA connected and disconnected. The difference at 120VAC is 12ma.
This means that 12ma times 120VAC = 1.44W X .707 = 1.02W into the
amplifier. The MRA is, at the same time, supplying DC output power to
a motor of 12VDC at 140ma, for 1.68W.
So, even if you assume that the amplifier is 100% efficient, which it
definitely is not, the MRA is still 61% over unity. This is a bottom
line number to cut through the haze of "power factor" questions, and
end the discussion of whether it is over unity, so we can determine
exactly HOW MUCH it is over unity. I don't think that anyone will
suggest that the Radio Shack amplifier is over unity, so the gain can
only be coming from one place, and since it's DC off the bridge, it is
true power.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10221 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 17:26 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Addendum to Ultimate Test Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm,
Went back as you suggested and checked the input from the sig gen to
the amp. The output terminals of the sig gen have 1.27VAC across them
and measuring the drop with a series resistor, there is .0013W from
the sig gen. Actually, you can remove the sig gen return line and the
MRA will stay in oscillation with no current from the sig gen except a
few microamps of leakage current, as I found out as I was connecting
the series non-inductive resistor. For all practical pur- poses, there
is no power being added to the circuit from the sig gen.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10222 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 23:19 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA testing Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Alex Peterson called, said he's a friend of Walter Rosenthal. Said
that Walter hasn't started on the MRA yet, and probably won't until
after New Year. Guess he has a full dance card.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10223 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 23:22 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : JAMES
JOHNSON Subject: Research Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi James,
That's some very fine research that you're doing! I can comprehend of
what you're seeing, but I can't comprehend of a mind that could
envision this complex harmonic relationship right down to the
sub-atomic level...and in ordered sequence for specific effects! Whew!
We need computers today just to try and "crack the code" that Keely
carried in his head, and it's still mind-boggling. The only thing that
I can add is that Western Electric made an alloy of the same materials
which Keely used in his wire, and this became known in the switch
industry as "Western Electric Alloy #1".
Using physical vibrations to produce tetrahertz harmonics would
require incredible precision, otherwise a small error at audio freq
would become a very large error higher up as it was multiplied.
Sort of ironic that MathCad isn't able to calculate it, and he was.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10224 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 23:53 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Re: Upload of MRAMSGS.TXT Folder
: A, "Public Mail"
I've just uploaded mramsgs.txt, about 170K of mra discussions from
internet. I've tried to cut out repetitions and big headers, but they
are not really in date order. Check out the ORIGANIZATIONS lines for
each response! ----------------------------------------
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Message 10225 DATE/TIME: 12/27/94 23:55 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: keelynet on internet Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For those on internet, a large portion of the Keelynet file libraries
are on internet WWW sites. Go to my web page at
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb for links to the sites.
One is http://www.protree.com/KeelyNet. The other is
http://www.ibg.uu.se/elektromagnum.
Go take a look. Also check out the free patent search sites!
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Message 10235 DATE/TIME: 12/28/94 12:05 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: mra measurements Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
This guy Bob Jewett on internet pointed out a measurement problem
which I had not noticed. Voltage measurements across a resistor CANNOT
be done as two measurements referenced to a third point if phase is
variable. In some common resonant circuits, the voltage on either end
of a resistor could be way out of phase with respect to common, yet
the peak and the rms voltages on the resistor ends would be identical.
So if you measure each end separately, you see the same voltage, and
assume the current is zero. But if you measure ACROSS the resistor,
you see a large (real) voltage, and discover the current is large.
So, measurements must be done with a floating meter across the
resistor, or with a dualtrace scope in differential mode and the two
probes placed across the resistor.
Or you can always move the position of the resistor in the circuit so
that one end is the same as the common point of all the test
equipment, then measure from the common point to the 'high' side with
less chance of mistakes caused by phase.
cc: Joel Mcclain
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10237 DATE/TIME: 12/28/94 13:23 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- To
: NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: MRA reduces AC line current Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I left the MRA on all night and ran the I/O test again, comparing the
AC power into the amp with the DC power out of the MRA under a motor
load.
The audio amp now draws 3ma LESS line current from the 120VAC input
when the MRA is on the output of the amplifier. The motor is running
along with 10.6VDC at 140ma of power from the MRA. The MRA is forcing
the amp's transistors out of conduction, which is seen by the line
input as a lower load requirement to the power supply of the amp, or
basically as a higher resistance to input current.
This means that the MRA is producing Mhos, which it could be using for
its own circulating current, but instead is using to drive down
current from the amp.
I compared this with the Universal Resonance Curve for series resonant
circuits by first changing the input freq until the MRA was out of
resonance, then bringing it to full output, then reducing the gain by
increasing the frequency. The MRA, out of resonance, causes a 3ma
increase in line current just by being connected to the amp.
As a series resonant circuit, the MRA has theoretical zero impedance
(limited to copper loss) at peak resonance, which is its max power
output point. DEtuning the MRA by increasing the frequency should
decrease the input current, which it does. However, at the 65% point
of relative resonance, which is where it is now, the resonance curve
intersects with the phase angle of applied current from the amp.
This is the "knee" of the input current phase angle rise. The current
should continue to rise, but is being forced down by the harmonic
content of the MRA at resonance, as seen by the decrease in input
current to the amplifier...not just below the nonresonant load of the
MRA, but below no-load.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10238 DATE/TIME: 12/28/94 14:12 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) mra measurements Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
We have tried both methods of measurement, and the problem which we
have is that there is very high voltage multiplication across both
elements of the series resonant circuit. We are dealing with typical
Q's of over 100, which is normal in a series resonant circuit, but
which make a voltage drop measurement meaningless. So, we measure the
equivalent load using a precision decade box, or as most recently we
measure the delta in input power to the audio amp, which will decrease
under the output load of the MRA at 65% of the resonant peak. Phase
isn't just variable, it's 180 degrees out relative to the individual
components.
No matter where you put a resistor in the series resonant circuit, you
will measure a drop which is the result of multiplied voltage. But you
can't fool a decade box. When you remove the MRA and put the decade
box in its place, and set the resistors to give the same delta in
applied voltage, you know EXACTLY how much current is being drawn. If
you use a current probe, which we have also done, you also see the
multiplied voltage, because the pickup of the probe is a coil. I would
think that, based upon his question, Bob Jewett is aware of these
considerations. His assumption that you will see a high voltage drop
is correct, because you are measuring the difference in multiplied
voltages...now IF you want to relate this to actual INPUT voltage,
divide this drop by the multiplication factor of the circuit, and you
will have the voltage which you can use for current measurement, and
which agrees exactly with the decade box.
You can prove this with any series resonant circuit, it doesn't have
to be the MRA.
Joel
cc: Norman Wootan
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Message 10242 DATE/TIME: 12/28/94 15:45 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel: Sure sounds like you have been busy nailimg this beast down. I
built another 2:1 for Bill and will visit later to discuss the other
test. Everyone is asking the right questions for which we already have
"plowed the ground" so have some answers. You know i "pinch" myself
all the time and ask "is this really happening?". Verification is the
answer to all the questions.
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Message 10243 DATE/TIME: 12/28/94 18:15 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: Drop current and decade current
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
Here's some numbers taken from actual measurement to help define the
primary current drawn by the MRA.
Voltage applied from amplifier = 23.38VAC Equivalent resistance
measurement = 500 ohms Current = E divided by R = 0.0468 amperes
Series drop across 2 ohm resistor = .380VAC Voltage multiplication = 4
times input voltage in the series circuit
(Note: Combined voltages across piezo and primary = four times the
voltage applied by the amplifier. If we're going to apply the cur-
rent derived by the drop to input voltage for power, then it must be
the ratio of the input voltage, not the multiplied voltage.)
Voltage of .380VAC divided by 4 = .095VAC Current = .095VAC divided by
2 ohms = .0475 amperes
Power in either case is equal to 23.38VAC times 0.47 = 1.098W RMS
power = 1.098W times 0.707 = 0.777W
Measured output from the MRA is 18.4VDC times 0.140 = 2.576W Power
gain = 3.32 times unity.
I don't know what else to do, or what other test to perform at this
point, so I'll stop here unless someone can suggest something. If
reducing AC line current in the previous test wasn't enough, then I
guess nothing ever will be for the "eternal skeptics" on the I-Net.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10246 DATE/TIME: 12/28/94 23:55 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: MRA video Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Date: 28 Dec 1994 14:49:00 +0100 From: Stefan Hartmann
<harti@shb.contrib.de> To: billb@eskimo.com Subject: Re: MRA video
tape ? . Hi Bill, . could you please ask the inventors, if they have
any access to a camcorder and could record a few short footages about
their MRA device in operation and could make it available ? . I would
like to digitize a few parts of the tape and put it onto the Internet
as an MPEG movie. SO everybody could have a look at it... . I also
have done it with the Testatika MPEG movie I did a while ago. . Maybe
you can forward this question to the inventors. . I would be happy to
pay for all expenses. Maybe they can rent a camcorder at their place
and make a tape and send it to me ? . I have all the equipment to do
the MPEG movies over here, including a NTSC VHS VCR to play US tapes.
. If they are okay with it, here is my address the tape should be send
to: . Hartmann Multimedia Service Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann
Keplerstr. 11 B 10589 Berlin, Germany phone: ++ 49 30 344 23 66 FAX:
++ 49 30 344 92 79 . Maybe you could please forward this request to
them ? They should let me know, what their expenses are and I will
send them a cheque first to compensate for their expenses. Then they
could send me the tape via airmail and I will do the MPEG immediately
and send it to you via email. Then you can put it up on your FTP site.
I will also soon have a
new FTP site and a WWW server, where I would put it up. . Regards,
Stefan. email to: harti@contrib.de
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Message 10249 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 00:42 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Pyramids and Obelisks Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For those who are familiar with the energy characteristics of both
pyramids and obelisks...pyramids focus energy up, obelisks focus it
down...you have probably already figured out that the MRA is an
electric obelisk. A Tesla coil is an electric pyramid in the same
manner.
If you're not familiar with these analogies, you might want to look up
Mary Hardy in the CONTACT1.ASC file, and order a copy of her book.
After you read it, you will also know why there is an obelisk (The
Washington Monument) next to a reflecting pool in Washington, D.C.,
and why the Pentagon is a pentagon...and why there is a pyramid on the
dollar bill..
And lots more... ----------------------------------------
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Message 10253 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 06:24 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
After successfully running the MRA on 12 Dec. Joel and I video taped
the original prototype running on his table and driving two loads ie,
light bulbs and DC motors at the same time so that no one could say
that this was RF as we have seen when experimenters run small neon
tubes. The video of course has date time stamps on the footage. This
is normal and prudent proceedures when establishing time and place of
invention.
I have had so many calls now requesting magnets and piezo's that I
cannot possibly supply them. I spent about 3 hours on the phone
yesterday talking to people across this country re- MRA.
The biggest problem that I have encountered is the fact that all who
have called have only the original MRA.ASC file and do not have the
MRA1.ASC and the most important RULE9.ASC. Without the Rule9.ASC they
do not have the theory that makes the MRA possible. Copies of the
MRA.ASC are being sent all over this country to friends and other
researchers without the RULE9.ASC.
Are you posting the MRA (public "A" ) messages to Internet each day so
that there is a constant up-date as to progress?
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10254 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 06:36 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA (Power Test) Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Joel:
I have been putting a lot of thought into the high power test of the
MRA device. Since you have determined that the circuit is creating
what we call Mhos and usually this phenomenon is associated with
vaccuum tubes in operation and going back to the work of T. Henry
Morray with his "valve" then I am setting up this 250 watt tube power
amp for the ultimate test.
Since transistors seem to not be able to take the bucking effect of
the "first harmonic" checking the input current into the circuit we
should use the vaccuum tube for this final stage of signal injection
into the MRA series resonant primary.
The "finals" tubes then are basically in the series circuit and will
survive the punishment brought on by the "hammering" effect of the
first harmonic. These large output tubes will display more of your
"Mhos" effect than simple transistors. I still believe, (I keep
dreaming about it) that the vaccuum tube should play a part in the
circuit as a "coherror" of the ZPE into the circuit. Certainly worth
trying for we are at the point where we need to push the piezo's at
their design power ratings of 50 watts at 150 Volts. There will be
some serious voltages developed in the series resonant primary for we
have already seen nearly 1000 Volts circulating with only 20 volts of
primary input. A vaccuum tube is the only animal that could survive
the punishment in a high voltage circuit like this. Bob Paddock's
indestructible transistors won't cut it in this harsh environment.
Thoughts and ideas.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10257 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 10:22 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: Testing, 1-2-3 Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
You made a suggestion a while back about going into the amplifier
output section and measuring current from an isolated point. That was
done this morning, measuring both voltage and current into and out of
the isolation transformer. It was easy, because the xfmr leads are
wire wrapped to pins on top of the pcb.
The input to the isolation transformer is consuming 2.4 watts, and the
output is measuring 1.9 watts, while the MRA is providing 2.3 watts,
which is less than the input to the isolation transformer, but more
than the output. Since the secondary of the isolation transformer is
part of the "voltage multiplied" primary of the MRA, its power at 1.9
watts may be overstated...but regardless, the MRA output is above it
by 26%, and that is DC, after a bridge rectifier. MRA primary current
was decreasing while the secondary output was increasing, but I took a
reading rather than wait all day to see exactly where it would go.
Increasing power to the MRA (went up to 20VDC out on a 19.1VDC rated
motor) increased the ratio to 30%. What this is saying is that the
gain of the MRA is high enough so that it doesn't matter whether you
measure primary current direct in-line across multiplied voltage...
it's still over unity. Now I really don't know what to test next.
Suggestions?
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10258 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 10:41 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: The "duck" test Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
There is a very funny cartoon where a little duck keeps flushing
things down a toilet, and saying, "...go down the ho-o-ole". I can
picture him saying "Norm go down the ho-o-ole" by putting vacuum tube
power amps on the MRA and flipping the switch. Either that, or you'll
be picking pieces of piezo out of your teeth for a while. I know that
we have to try it sooner or later, and your point about the mhos is
well taken...guess I'd rather hear a little whoosh first before the
"big one".
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10261 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 14:30 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA (Power Test) Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Joel:
Do you think I'm crazy? I had no intention ot just turn the switch on
on a 250 Watt amp drivind the piezo. What I said is that we need to
substitute a vaccuum tube amp in the circuit instead of the puny
transistors we are now useing so we can proceed in the power test.
I like you agree with caution on something we are not realy sure of
the true nature of the beast. Don't worry, there is no intention of
running very significant amounts of power at this time.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10264 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 19:52 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To :
JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry:
Hal Fox called and that bunch is so excited up in Salt Lake City that
he is already writting the article for the next NEN. I went to the
main post office and sent him the MRA1.ASC and the RULE9.ASC so he
would have enough info for the article. He sends his congratulations
and was obviously moved by our giving the tecnology to the world as
"PUBLIC DOMAIN". Please post the MRAMSGS.TXT that Bill uploaded so we
can review the Internet traffic. Thanks
Norm ----------------------------------------
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10265 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 20:30 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL Subject:
MRA measurements Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Norm and Joel: . About the current-sensing resistor position, I mean
you should try connecting it like this: . coils/ magnet piezo _______
______ _________|[]|_________________| | | | | |[]| | |out | | | |
__|____ | | load / C || C | | | | res. \ C || C | Vrms | | OSC | / C
|| C |______ | | | \ C || C 2.0ohm | | | |______|
|________/\/\/\______|___________|com | | | |_______| | | | ______ |
|____| |__| | Vrms | |______| . Even if the whole circuit is floating,
the oscillator's 'common' terminal will act as a reference point, and
the high voltages across the piezo and magnet then should not mess up
the input measurements. Simply multiply the two RMS voltage readings,
divide by 2.0 ohms, and you'll know the worstcase input power (as
close as the RMS meter can tell you, that is.)
If you've already tried the above measurement, does it give overunity
numbers? If it won't, then there may be something screwy with the
other measurements. I would trust the above setup. If a dual-channel
scope is substituted for the RMS meters (with the scope's common lead
going to the oscillator common terminal) you should be able to see the
current and voltage waveforms at the same time, so phase can be
observed directly, ending lots of arguements. Whaddaya think?
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Message 10267 DATE/TIME: 12/29/94 23:00 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: W. Rosenthal called... Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Hi Norm,
Walter Rosenthal called and he has been going over the information
which you sent him with the MRA. He hopes to begin testing soon. He
also has an item for sale if anyone is interested. It is a Tek-tronix
model P6042 current probe/amplifier, DC to 50MHz, milliamps to ten
amps, and the amplifier output is connected to a 50 ohm BNC inline
resistor on the o'scope to allow viewing the current waveform. Price
is $200.00 and it is in nice condition.
Also, Walter says that the effect of watches running slow in the
vicinity of ZPE devices is well known, and says that Tom Bearden can
describe it better than anybody. I faxed Walt the most recent message
base test data. We also talked about possibly using the MRA as an
earthquake warning device, so he may keep it after the tests to try it
for that purpose.
He also said that the method of attaching leads to the piezo is very
important, and that attaching them closer to the hole would be better
because the effect is like putting your hand on a bell...you muffle
the sound more as you get further toward the outer edges.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10268 DATE/TIME: 12/30/94 09:47 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA (Power Test) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Hey, "crazy" is a badge of honor in ZPE circles...Tesla was crazy,
Keely was crazy, what more could you ask? Look at the Egyptians... do
SANE people build 60 story tall unreinforced buildings out of rock?
We'd still be living in grass shacks if it weren't for the "crazy"
thinkers of the world. Bring on that 250W amp... we'll show 'em what
crazy really means! "Norm and Joel go down the ho-o-ole"...and enjoy
the ride...wwwhhhooossshhh.....
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10269 DATE/TIME: 12/30/94 09:48 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: (R) MRA measurements Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill, and thank you for the diagram. I'm going to tell you some
things in this message which will make no sense to you in terms of
conventional electronics...but I've put in close to 90 test hours with
the MRA so far, and these are reproducible constants for the circuit.
Tom Bearden has been quoted as saying "...think backwards" when you
are dealing with devices of this type, and in many ways this is true.
The MRA primary is a Tesla coil which is being fed by the matching
xfmr secondary of the signal generator. As with any Tesla coil, there
is voltage multiplication, and this appears across every element of
the completed primary circuit, including the signal generator's output
xfmr secondary.
Because of this, you will measure a voltage across the signal
generator output secondary which is higher under load than it is at
no-load. In a conventional xfmr, this is not possible.
After you turn on the MRA, and for a period of hours afterwards, you
will see the DC output climb in increments while the MRA primary
current drops in increments and the signal generator output secondary
voltage goes above noload. This is the opposite of a normal power
supply.
If you add a resistor anywhere in the MRA primary circuit, the primary
current will increase...also the opposite of a typical transformer,
where resistors are used to decrease current. While the primary
current is increasing, the output DC is dropping, also the opposite of
what you would expect.
The MRA can be tuned to drive down AC line current below noload, and
still produce usable power. As far as primary current, the only way
that I've been able to measure it is inline, with a meter that has a
freq range of 200KHz, and even the tiny voltage drop of the inline
meter will increase current and lower output DC.
Very few of the "old rules" apply in a circuit which is adding power
to the applied power at resonance. It's like having an external power
source in the middle of the circuit, and in fact, that is what you
have. The piezo is adding free electrons and the magnet is acting like
a generator, and the combination equals unity plus.
You will have to see this for yourself...I still do, every day in fact
just to make sure it's real. It is. Have fun!
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10271 DATE/TIME: 12/30/94 13:06 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Cool Current Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Tom Bearden and others have reported the effect of "cold current" in
free energy devices, and so the question comes up regarding the MRA,
"where's the cold current?". I've taken the MRA's temperature at all
inputs and outputs, and everything is 5-10 degrees warmer than ambient
air, except for one place. There is one place where the temp is the
same as ambient, and it is a path in the series circuit which should
read warmer, like all of the other paths...so, there is some cooling,
but not a lot of it under low level input and output.
That location is the wires connecting the piezo to the primary, which
should be as warm as the other wires in the series circuit, but these
wires stay at room temp. That is the location where we should see
"blue light" on camera film. Now that Tom has seen the schematic, if
we ask him where we should see it, I bet he'll know.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10272 DATE/TIME: 12/30/94 14:21 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Amplitude, Frequency and Range Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For those who may be interested in reproducing the work of Keely using
traditional musical instruments (including voice) here is a chart of
the frequency ranges based upon a piano keyboard.
NOTE FREQ INSTRUMENTS
A B 30 C 32 D 36 E 40 BASS VIOLA START F BASS TUBA START G 48 A B 60
BASSOON START C 64 CELLO START D 72 E 80 FRENCH HORN, BASS CLARINET
AND VOICE START F KETLE DRUM START G 96 A B 120 C 128 VIOLA START D
144 E 160 TRUMPET AND CLARINET START F KETTLE DRUM STOP G 192 VIOLIN
START A B 240 BASS VIOLA STOP C MID 256 OBOE AND FLUTE START D 280 E
320 F BASS TUBA STOP G 384 A B 480 BASSOON, FRENCH HORN AND BASS
CLARINET STOP C 512 PICCOLO START D 576 E 640 F CELLO STOP G 768 A B
960 TRUMPET STOP C 1024 D 1152 VIOLA AND VOICE STOP E 1280 F G 1536
CLARINET AND OBOE STOP A B 1920 C 2048 D 2304 FLUTE STOP E 2560 F G
3072 VIOLIN STOP A B 3840 C 4096 D 4608 PICCOLO STOP
There are variations in the amplitudes required to be audible. These
are based upon frequency, and are in between the Threshold of
Audibility and the Threshold of Feeling. The most amplitude is needed
between 20 and 100Hz, less is needed as frequency increases up to
1000Hz, and the least is needed at 5Khz. The relationship between
frequency and amplitude is very important at low amplitude and at high
frequency. ----------------------------------------
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Message 10297 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 10:48 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill: Your complete MRA is on the way and should be there by Monday. I
downloaded the Internet traffic and saw so much "negative energy"
being expended out there trying to discredit something that we offered
up in the "Public Domain" for other researchers to take a serious look
at.
The first counter statement that I will make is that Joel and I agreed
that we will not sell or accept any re-imbursement of any kind for
anything connected with the MRA device for the very reason sited in
the message traffic. No I will not sell off my small stock of
transducers.
I will give magnets and transducers only to serious researchers for
the purpose of circuit Over-unity output verification. We are not
seeking any profit from this device thus the reason for offering it as
"public domain". If those out there are so narrow minded that they
will not analyze the circuit for what it does, so be it. They are
beyond help.
To those who question why we have not "self powered" the device, we
are working on the voltage regulator, oscillator and power driver
circuit that will make this possible. Everyone thinks this can be done
overnight-"wrong"- things don't happen that fast. Our intent was to
get the fundamentals out for all to see and experiment with.
The most important document in the MRA project is the RULE9.ASC file
which explains the fundamental theory behind the MRA principle. I will
be putting out a paper shortly explaining what is going on in the
Griggs and Perkins Hydrosonic Pump for it is directly tied in to the
MRA in principle of operation and ZPE tapping effects. More on that
later.
As to the critics out there saying that measurements of input power
are defective. This is what we currently have at our disposal on our
work benches between Joel and myself.
2 ea. General Radio Precision Decade Resistor Boxes, 3 ea. Techtronic
465 Dual Trace Scopes, 2 ea. Fluke 87 true RMS meters, 1 ea. P6042
Current Probe, 2 ea P6021 Current Probes, 1 Wavetek 164 Sig Gen, 1 ea
BK Precision E310B Sig Gen, 1 ea. HP 200 CD Sig Gen, 1 HP 5383 Freq
Counter, 2 ea Simpson Freq Counters, 1ea. Wavetek DM 27X7 meter & freq
counter, and a whole bunch of the old analog Simpson and Tripplet
meters that have been cast aside with the coming of the digital world.
I realize that we do not have the sophisticated equipment that you
would find in an industrial or university lab but it gives us a good
idea as to what is fact or fiction. We have the circuit out being
tested by those that do have the latest state-of-the-art equipment so
time will tell all.
Be patient is all I have to say for now. In time the truth will be
known to all.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10298 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 12:07 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
| | NW>...replicate "John Keely's" work with computer generated wave |
NW>forms. It won't work for you have to have the purest sine wave that
is | NW>obtainable to achieve the results we are looking for. | | I'm
still not convinced of this. I have no | experience with sound boards
so you may be right there | (FM/PWM type modulation/Class D stuff I
believe). BUT | a properly done D/A followed by a good tracking filter
and | I'll bet you can't tell the difference "in a blind taste |
test". | | Also I don't trust scopes (They Lie!), and computer |
simulations even less. There good for first approximations | but they
never seem to get the Real World things right (for | example the
fellow laying out the PCB art work runs the RF | output next to the
high impedance input, THAT never showed | up in the simulation). | |
NW> I am still looking for the "Hammond organ" sine | NW> wave
generator before proceeding any further on the "water | NW>
dissosiation". | | I'll have it copied off early in the first of the |
week and on its way to you by the end of the week. | Holidays always
get in the way of the Good Stuff... This | IS the motor based one. The
70+ piano tuner I got it from | said that these motors where HEAVY,
but he had none left. | Looks like the shape of the disk on the shaft
is the main | thing sort of like this: | | /---------------------\ | /
\ | | | | | | | | | Only neater. | | | Its square with flat corners. |
\ / | \____________/ |
Well almost like that if it had came out right. I just fininshed
copying the one manual, will have the other done on/by monday.
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Message 10300 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 12:10 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Addendum to Ultimate Test Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
| | JM> Actually, you can remove the sig gen return line and | JM> the
MRA will stay in oscillation with no current from the sig gen | JM>
except a few microamps of leakage current, as I found out as I was |
JM> connecting the series non-inductive resistor. | | Do the amp and
signal generator have three wire | plugs? This would account for the
one wire effect. Time | for isolation transformers.... This can also
cause | strange effects on scopes (any other reason why I say they |
lie)! | ----------------------------------------
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Message 10301 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 12:11 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) MRA reduces AC line current Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
| | JM> This means that the MRA is producing Mhos, which it could be
using | JM> for its own circulating current, but instead is using to
drive | JM> down current from the amp. | | I almost fell on the floor
when I read "producing Mhos". :-( | | Lecture Mode On: | | Nothing
"produces" Mhos. Mhos are now called Siemens, and given the | unit
S. [Personally I liked the humor of Mhos (Ohms backwards)]. | | Mhos
are the 'reciprocal' (mathematical opposite) of Ohms. | | R = 1/G or
G=1/R | | Where R = Resistance in Ohms | G = Conductance in Siemens
(Mhos) | | Conductance and Resistance refer to the same thing | but
from opposite viewpoints. While Resistance is the | Resistance to
current flow, Conductance is the allowance of | current flow; zero
conductance = infinite resistance. | | | I'm sure you've calculated
the total resistance (Rt) | of a number of resistors in parallel using
this formula: | | Rt = 1/( 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 .... + 1/Rx) | | What
you are really doing is adding the resistors | Conductance values
together as if the resisters where in | series. Then converting the
series Conductance value back | into the parallel resistance with the
finial 1/(). | | Also in this inverted world live: | | Susceptance, B,
the reciprocal of (1/X) | and, Admitance, Y, the reciprocal of
impedance (1/Z). | | People at work tell me I have a warped
perspective, | and tend to look at things backwards [I look at it as |
turning a negative in to a positive or a 'feature' :-)]. | | Also
while I'm in this lecturing mode (I don't like | it) is this .707
thing. | | .707 has NOTHING, ZIP, NO'DA, to do with Power | Factor, as
I explained in one of my previous messages to | Norm. .707 has to do
with converting *PURE* sine waves in | to the work equivalent of DC
(RMS). You keep talking about | harmonics so I assume that you don't
have *PURE* sine waves? | | I don't like coming across as the heavy
here all | of the time, but if you want to be taken seriously by The |
Rest Of the World then we all need to be on the Their | program....
Even if They don't get it... | | Lecture Mode Off. |
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Message 10302 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 12:13 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Drop current and decade current
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
| | JM> I don't know what else to do, or what other test to perform at
this | JM> point, so I'll stop here unless someone can suggest
something. | | A heat based power meter, or better yet a Calorimeter.
| | JM> If reducing AC line current in the previous test wasn't
enough, then | JM> I guess nothing ever will be for the "eternal
skeptics" on the I-Net. | | Don't waste time/energy on the 'eternal
skeptics' | they'll die off and a new bread will grow up in their
place | that 'Get It'. | ----------------------------------------
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Message 10303 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 12:15 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA (Power Test) Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
| | NW> Since you have determined that the circuit is creating | NW>
what we call Mhos and usually this phenomenon is associated with | NW>
vaccuum tubes in operation. | | You are thinking of Transconductance
(gm [small G | with small subscript m]), also known as Mutual
Conductance. | There are several people that make Transconductance
IC's now | (Maxim and Harris for two; good into the hundreds of
megahertz). | | In a given tube, if Eg varies by some amount the Ip |
will vary by a certain amount. Tubes having the ability of | producing
a relatively wide Ip variation with a given Eg | variation have high
values of transconductance. | | Gm = DIp / DEg (Should be small
letters with a subscript) | u = dEp / dEg | gm = u/rp | | Where gm =
transconductanc in siemens (mhos) | u = amplification factor | rp = ac
plate impedance | | Transconductance (gm) also shows up in JFETs; its
| ability to vary the output current, Id, when an | input-voltage
variation is applied (some times this is | called forward
transadmittance, yf or gf (small y/small g subscript f). | | gm =
(DELTA id/DELTA Vgs) | Vds constant | | No magic in the math here....
| | NW> A vaccuum tube is the only animal that could survive the | NW>
punishment in a high voltage circuit like this. Bob Paddock's | NW>
indestructible transistors won't cut it in this harsh environment. | |
Your right a normal transistor would never survive | this, but check
out the IGBT's and MCTs in that Harris book. | 1200 volts is no
problem. International Rectifier also has | some MOSFETs that get up
in the 1000+ range, and Motorla's | HDTMOS are getting close. I like
the TMOS ones my | self. Make sure you use the ones with the Kalvonic
contact | current sense to simplify your measurements and feedback |
control. Also you have to watch the dv/dt and di/dt not just | the
voltage. | | Did the Harris books arrive yet? I didn't have | extra
copies of the IR and Mot data books to send you, I'll | see if I can
get them. |
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Message 10307 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 14:13 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: MRA I/O Ratios Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Test date: 12-31-94
To measure apples against apples, I've tested the MRA at both of the
output levels which are important, Maximum Power and Maximum Gain,
using the resistive equivalent load method. The measurements were made
to attain the same signal source voltage drop as when the MRA is in
the circuit as well as to measure the current in series with the
decade box at those voltage drops.
The applied voltage is 23.75VAC from a signal source. At Maximum
Power, this voltage dropped to 21.9VAC. At Maximum gain, it dropped to
23.25VAC.
At Maximum Power, the equivalent resistance to obtain a signal voltage
drop to 21.9VAC is 165 ohms, and the measured current is 132ma.
At Maximum Gain, the equivalent resistance to obtain a signal voltage
drop to 23.25VAC is 595 ohms, and the measured current is 40ma.
Input power is calculated using the above measurements to be 2.04W RMS
at Maximum Power, and 658mw RMS at Maximum Gain.
The output power for this test was in rectified and filtered DC
voltage applied across a running motor which drew 140ma of current.
At Maximum Power, the output voltage was 18.38VDC, and power was
therefore 2.57W. This is a gain of .53W, or 1.26 times unity.
At Maximum Gain, the output voltage was 15.5VDC, and power was
therefore 2.17W. This is a gain of 1.51W, or 3.30 times unity.
The measurements were made in the linear output region of the signal
source, where variations in the resistive values, either higher or
lower, would cause corresponding changes in applied voltage and series
current. The pattern of current increases and decreases is the same as
is seen when "live" measurements are taken in the MRA primary circuit.
However, the live measurements in the circuit when it is reactive and
therefore has multiplied voltages present do not conform to Ohm's Law,
and are not considered to be reliable.
Any losses which occur as a result of rectifying and filtering the AC
to DC are considered as a "cost of doing business", because DC is
useful for powering a load, and 34KHz is not. Therefore, these losses
are not factored into the power gain measurement.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10308 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 14:14 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Call & Fax from Tom Bearden
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Tom Bearden sent a fax (11 pages) explaining much of the effects of
the MRA in terms of Whittaker waves and how this is causing phase
conjugate pump waves to "slip in" hyper 3-space (aetheric) energy.
Because of the materials in the MRA and the use of three octaves of
resonance, he says that the over unity effect is unavoidable. Many
other circuits can be made using the same principles, but the
difference with the MRA is that the energy is CONTROLLED and producing
work.
I called him back...I still haven't read all of the fax... and we
talked for a while. I want him to have the MRA that I'm using for test
now as his evaluation unit, and he will get it certified by
"recognized" members of the scientific community. Next time you come
over, we'll pack it up and send it to him.
Happy New Year!
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10311 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 14:29 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) Testing, 1-2-3 Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
That's excellent news on the MRA gain measurements. I am very unsure
about this voltage multiplying effect as applied to any series
resistors or components within the oscillator. In a series-resonant
circuit, the voltage across the coil and capacitor will build up
hugely because of resonant energy storage, but this will not affect
the voltage across the current-sampling resistor or across the driving
oscillator, or across the current probe coil (unless the probe coil
has a resonant frequency the same as the MRA.) But then again, o/u
physics could do all kinds of unexpected things. It sure would be
strange if o/u devices are common, but their effects make measurement
devices read incorrectly and underestimate actual energy "creation." .
The only true way to prove that the device works is to make it
function as a self-acting black box. If the o/u percentage is high
enough, the power amp could be driven from the DC out of the MRA. Or,
as someone on the Net suggested, you could connect the MRA output to a
120vac inverter, and feed that back to normal 120v drive equipment.
Big losses via inverter effeciency though. It definitely should be
possible to build a custom amp/oscillator having very low supply
requirements, so that even a low o/u percentage could be made into a
self sustaining energy source. Until this is done, there is a chance
that we are all fooling ourselves. The slowing wrist-watches and the
self-oscillation Norm observed are very good signs this is real.
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Message 10313 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 15:37 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: Your Messages Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bob,
I'll try to answer all of your messages...very thoughtful stuff, and I
appreciate the time you've put into them.
Mhos...hmmm...well, per the books, it was the closest thing I could
find to describe the effect...ok, I'll call it by it's proper name:
"energy density and energy transport in bidirectional EM wave flux to
create massless displacement current via hidden channel (Whittaker
Field) phase conjugate pumping"
Call me old fashioned, but I really prefer the humble Mho to describe
the effect... I can wrap my brain around a Mho, but it's still
stretching AWFULLY hard to get around that other stuff....
Gosh, you know, I'd hate to have the responsibility of being right ALL
of the time, like those "flamers" on the I-Net. |:+>>
Actually, I had hoped that a few would use the information for
something really mundane, like keeping warm in the winter...oh, well.
The sig gen is grounded, but its output is off of an isolation xfmr,
and the amp is ungrounded...btw, the frequency of oscillation jumps up
one octave to over 66KHz when you remove the signal return lead from
the sig gen and let it run open.
Thank you for clearing up the power factor "cosine of theta" stuff.
It's good confirmation, since we are comparing the input power with
output DC from a bridge rectifier....apples with apples.
Happy New Year, and thanks again!!
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10316 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 17:54 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To
: ALL Subject: MRAMSGS1.ASC Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Folks! The first of the InterNet flames is now online as MRAMSGS1,
giving room for 9 more....the guy towards the last seemed to be the
most rational and forward thinking of the bunch though there are mixed
response throughout....>>> Jerry
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Message 10317 DATE/TIME: 12/31/94 18:20 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To :
JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: MRAMSGS1.ASC Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry: I read the "Flames from the Internet and laughed all the way
through", most have not even read the files that were posted which is
obvious by their not understanding or getting confused on the circuit
particulars. <g> Well we expected this from that world.
I have had several (6) calls which were very supportive and from some
pretty high up researchers in industry. They are not taking this
"lightly" and want as much info that we can give them so that they can
help verify the MRA.
Thanks for posting the Internet Joke Book. What a way to start the new
year. Hope to see you at Bert's. Happy New Year. Norm
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Message 10322 DATE/TIME: 01/01/95 08:41 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : BOB
PADDOCK Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bob:
Yes I did receive the catalogs and manuals Friday. Many thanks and for
your efforts and "excellent lectures" you are getting a New Years care
package. Have fun and fill us in on results.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10376 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 00:28 From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: My MRA Folder : D, "Special
Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Joel, since I've been off for the holidays I had a chance to
tinker. I have built a version of the "MRA" circuit with components I
had on hand. Mine differs from yours in that I used a NdFe magnet
about 1" square by 1/2" thick. I could only get about 50 turns apeice
for the primary and secondary of #32 insulated wire-wrap type wire on
a magnet this size. The bridge is built from 1N4148s and the peizo is
one of the same as you have.
In working with this circuit I came up with several questions and I
referred back to the message base and MRA files for information.
The firt observation I want to discuss is the "DC" output. I have not
seen it mentioned anywhere that you are using a capacitor on the
bridge to maintain a constant DC. Without a cap the output of the
bridge will always have ripple down to baseline as soon as any load is
applied. The output of the unfiltered bridge will be a series of half
wave pulses. This will complicate the measurement of the output as it
is NOT D.C. It is in fact A.C. with a lot of distortion. I strongly
suggest that the output be filtered with a large cap of say, 20-100
uF. depending on the load and power produced. I used a 20uF
electrolytic which smoothed the output nicely and will make the output
power measurements accurate.
Another observation that I made is that the first resonant frequency
of the piezo by itself was 34.660 KHz. This is very close to your
operating frequency and is very close to 1/5 the 174.9 KHz
ferro-resonant frequency discussed elsewhere.
In my circuit the magnet-coil has a verly low Q and peaks in the range
of about 2.5MHz. This is not surprising since the 'core' of this
'inductor' (the magnet) is already extremely 'saturated' and should
not contribute much to the inductance. In my circuit the resonant
characteristics of the piezo dominate and the peaks of output mostly
all correspond with the harmonics of the piezo.
I did not get any audible 'singing' from my magnet whatsover at any
frequency. Its coils are wound around the axis of the magnet's
polarity. I may try another coil using a 1"x2"x1/2" ceramic magnet
that I have. It would have to be wound across the poles on that one.
I have not begun to take power measurements yet but will start that
next. It does produce power though and I have run a small motor, LED
etc.
cc: Norman Wootan
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Message 10378 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 00:38 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: MRA Blunder??? Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I just noticed a big Oooops! in the MRA files. The Fluke 87 True RMS
meter specs in the Fluke catalog are listed as 20KHZ max. I don't know
if this means the tolerance is only good to that point, or whether
that is the half-power point. I don't have the complete spec. This
implies that the meter is not good to 200KHZ as was said earlier, and
its possible that all the readings taken with it are wrong. What say
you?
Have you tried crude calibrations of this meter versus a scope, when
both read the output of a good oscillator that's fairly constant with
frequency? Could you do a cross-check to find out where the meter
readings get REALLY bad? ----------------------------------------
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Message 10384 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 07:41 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY Subject: My MRA Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Gerald:
Well "Trace Mountain" is going to get a care package, for we can't
have Tesla experimenting with inferior parts. Ha! Ha! Just kidding,
will send you the "real" thing to experiment with.
We have been useing filters on the DC bridge, mine is bigger than
Joel's cap for I have been using 16000 UF @ 60V while Joel is using
something smaller. The only problem with a big cap is you have to be a
little more patient with changing values and adjustments for it takes
a little time for the cap to bleed of or build up with variations in
the output but it is "pure" DC. All the measurements are cross checked
by scope and the DC out from a filtered bridge is flat line DC.
Your are correct with the piezo freqs for most of these circuits
settle out with a piezo freq around 34600 range which is a fifth (1/5)
of the Ferro-magnetic-resonant freq that we derived. I wish someone
else would do some testing in this area to verify our findings. When
you get your "TET" finished you can do the same test we did and see
where and how this was done.
So far everything goes back to this fundamental freq which I am still
convinced that Tesla knew full well when he built his Colorado Springs
coil. Sounds reasonable to me that he would use a freq very close to
the natural earth ferro magnetic resonant freq to form a beat
difference of the 7.83 (that's close enough) which is the Schuman
cavity resonant freq. Back then he had it close to 8 HZ and since it
has been narrowed down even better. This would have been an "elegant"
approach to form an 8 HZ standing wave between his big coil, the earth
and the surrounding air. I would like to get the "Corum's" feed back
or comments on this idea.
Thanks for the interest in the MRA, good to hear from the "attic
workshop". Your friend Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10385 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 08:01 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
We are checking the numbers from the meters with scope back-up so we
feel comfortable so far with the measurements. Joel's total resistive
equivalence to the circuit places everything back on "OHMS LAW" for
cross checking and verification. What can you do with an animal that
is so non-linear that everything is inverted or does just the opposite
that you would normally expect from a circuit. Well the proof is in
the hands of Walter Rosenthal and Tom Bearden at this time and soon
will be on Hal Puthoff's work bench so what else can we do other than
what is already reported.
Your question as to telling all, that has been the policy all along
for Joel and I agree that it is dumb to go "Public Domain" then hold
back critical data that would impair duplication efforts of others.
Please share "all" tech notes and comments with everyone for even the
smallest clue could turn on the "light" in someone else mind and
assist to overall project. Heck, we admit we don't have all the
answers, that is the reason for making this a joint project with all
interested in a new form of energy.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10387 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 11:28 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY Subject: ALSO TO BILL BEATY...
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Gerald,
Yup, we've been using ordinary electrolytic filter caps on the output
of the bridge, same as with any other power supply. We can do this
because 34KHz is stil well within the alpha cutoff freq of diodes and
audio transistors. Good that Norm is sending you a kit, because if
your magnet is not ringing audibly, you aren't going to get the effect
of virtual rotation of the domains, and will have an ordinary series
resonant circuit. From what we've seen, you have to have the magnet
resonant range in the first octave of a three octave series. The
magnet's range is about 8-9KHz, so one octave up is 16-18KHz and the
next octave is 32-36KHz, with the piezo right in the middle of its
range at about 34KHz +/- a few hundred hertz.
In answer to Bill's question, I rechecked the "Owner's Manual" for the
Fluke #87, and it definitely says 200KHz...in fact, while you are
measuring voltage with it, you can press the "HZ" button and get an
instantaneous reading of freq and if you press it again get a reading
of the duty cycle. It's a great piece of gear. Also, since Norm and I
have both blown up test equipment with the MRA, it's a lot less to
risk for routine measurements.
If you caught that last message for Bob Paddock, you have a better
idea of the reason for measuring primary current with a resistive
equivalent circuit. There is a scalar to EM conversion going on which
manifests itself as circulating current...Bearden calls it a "ping
pong" effect, as the "inner channel" increase is bounced back by the
resonant circuit, causing yet another increase, and so on. The
components themselves and the amount of load determine amount of this
current. However, adding a series dropping resistor effectively alters
the circuit by closing the channel, which is why primary current from
the signal source increases, a direct violation of Ohm's Law
(increasing resistance should decrease current) and the result is an
ordinary series resonant circuit.
I'm going to try to get some of the info from Tom Bearden into a file
because he can describe the effects with far more scientific
authenticity than I have the knowledge or experience to do.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10392 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 17:31 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: The Fluke ain't a fluke... Folder
: A, "Public Mail"
Taken from the Fluke #87 Owner's Manual:
Introduction, Page 1
"The Fluke 87 True RMS Multimeter is a handheld, 4000 count instrument
that is designed for use in the field, laboratory, and at home. The
meter combines the precision of a digital meter with the speed and
versatility of a high resolution analog display. Frequencies between
0.5 Hz and 200 kHz can be measured with up to 0.01 Hz resolution.
How to Use the Meter, Page 12
"In the frequency counter mode, the Hz annunciator is displayed. The
frequency function autoranges over five ranges: 199.99 Hz, 1999.9 Hz,
19.999 kHz, 199.99 kHz, and greater than 200kHz."
Hope this clears up the question of freq accuracy... I also ran the
Simpson #710 freq counter along with the Fluke #87 and they track well
together, and the voltages have been 'scoped for amplitude also.
With the types of equipment that you would find in most good
electronic shops, we believe that the data that we have released
(which is everything we know, as fast as we know it) is accurate and
valid.
We are typically measuring voltages at freq's that are in the bottom
one fifth of the meter's freq range.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10394 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 18:01 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: (R) MRA (Power Test) Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
[not sure if this message in on the topic---CF]
Hi Bob! I understand it was built by two different universities, both
of which dismantled it because of the accumulation of very high
voltages....I'll keep an eye out for precisely who it was, surely they
wrote up a document detailing the venture... I remember the Von
Daniken movie, Chariot of the Gods, with William Shatner as host...I
think maybe BlockBuster Video has it....will check on it if so...>>>
Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10405 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 18:27 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: Call from Mokelumne Folder :
D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm and Joel!
Got an intriguing call from a fellow who actually lives in Mokelumne
Hill... he is an engineer who is researching free energy devices and
was interested in the MRA... he seems to have a line on the
Hendershott device that I also have, but had forgotten about....
anyway, he 'reminded' me this thing ran a 300 watt light bulb, so I
guess I'll have to dig up the circuit and post it or mail you guys a
copy... it might prove useful with the MRA as to pumping up the
power... he went through quite a detailed analysis of the circuit,
likening it to Moray's and the Tesla Switch where the energy is like
water in one glass, shifted to another empty glass... as it flows, it
induces current in windings...so you use the same energy, but tap off
the induced effect.... will see what I did with that old paper and run
off some copies.....oh, yes, I transcribed the Hudson tape and will
post it online... Cheyenne will probably have him here live in the 1st
week of February and Dean has him up to Colorado on March 7 and 8....
well, my fingers are cold...later... >>> Jerry
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Message 10406 DATE/TIME: 01/04/95 19:17 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: I SEE THE LIGHT! Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
To test Bearden's NLO theory, ie, P-channel quantum potentials forming
at light wavelengths, I loosely wrapped a strip of aluminum foil
around the windings of the MRA. This will have little or no effect on
a conventional transformer, except to shield it from ambient noise as
in TV UHF circuits. However, the MRA output dropped from 16.25VDC at
.14A to 10.0VDC at .14A... my goodness.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10417 DATE/TIME: 01/05/95 01:14 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) The Fluke ain't a fluke... Folder :
A, "Public Mail"
Whew, sigh of relief. I don't have the specs, but it sounds like your
meter is good for voltage up to 20KHz, then is not accurate at higher
frequencies to the full number of meter digits. So, accuracy depends
on how fast the meter response tails off above 20KHz. And the Fluke
literature DOES say 200KHz for the frequency counter, but 20KHz for
the Vrms part. I hate to be finding fault with your measurements, but
I'm really just trying to get more confidence in what you are seeing
(until I get a chance to try it myself.)
It still probably would be a good idea to measure voltage of a good
source with both the scope and the meter, and find where the meter
starts to fail. For example, when does its reading dip 5% below that
of a 50MHz scope? At 21KHz? probably not. At 100kHz?
Could well be.
cc: Norman Wootan
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Message 10420 DATE/TIME: 01/05/95 01:25 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of MRAMSGS2.TXT Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I've uploaded MRAMSGS2.TXT, another 150K of internet newsgroup
messages. There are a few less flames than last time, more intelligent
discussion. Still overall negative, though. Some are entertaining.
Don't know why I bothered answering back to some. The only good it
does is to draw out some stupid retorts, making the original senders
look pitiful. . As before, I've edited out all the positive,
intelligent messages. <grin> . Actually, I think I inadvertantly did
step on some positive messages, because when people came to me via
email for further info or to give advice, I suggested they use their
darn modems to actually talk on Keelynet rather than to me. Only a
couple of them did. ----------------------------------------
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Message 10423 DATE/TIME: 01/05/95 07:46 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : BILL
BEATY Subject: Document Scan Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Have you made any progress on the Internet posting of that document I
wanted to send to the "Cold Fusion" boys? After they chew on it a
while I will follow up with some findings on the Hydrosonic Pump and
propose a "Theory" that should give them something to really think
about. Ain't it fun to "dice" with Academia in an arena that they
thought was "hands-off" domain.
Joel and I were laughing last night about "blacking out several teeth
and wearing coveralls" for some pictures that were requested for
several upcoming publications of the MRA story and where do we go from
here.
Tom Bearden is all "aglow" with his MRA and a third will be sent to
Hal Puthoff this week. Things will get more interesting in the next
several weeks I promise. We seem to learn more with each hour that we
spend in testing and building different configurations. Last night I
had a good friend of Walter Rosenthal call me and wanted a MRA to
test.
I cannot possibly provide complete MRA's to anyone who may want one
much less the parts. I tried to explain that there is only about a 25%
chance that he would wind up with an over-unity device for as we go we
learn that not all piezo's will give the desired results and we have
found wire sizes and turns ratios that just won't cut it. We would
recommend that all out there sit tight until Joel and I come up with a
sure fire configuration that will insure proper output results so no
one goes away "disgrundaled" or out of sorts and become firm
dis-believers.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10428 DATE/TIME: 01/05/95 13:21 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : JERRY
DECKER (SYSOP) Subject: Howdy Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry,
I've been getting messages from you...but not returning any as of yet
because I've been in constant "test mode" with the MRA. I'm sure that
you have some concerns along with a very full agenda, so I'll not ask
any favors at this point. We've really only just begun with the MRA.
I see now that it is possible to add additional quantum coupled
stages. Because the coupled potentials are instantaneous in the
self-targeting mode, they can be effectively added in 3-space to
realize EM power outside the P-channel. What is different in this
"mode" is that voltages in parallel will "add", and voltages in series
will stay the same, albeit at excess potential.
With one output on the MRA, we are limited to one set of complete
Whittaker biwave harmonic pairs. Each load will have slightly
different charactristics...and will "attract" other biwave pairs in
the MRA, as long as the loads are within the aggregate resonance.
I believe that this is similar to the concept used by Moray, with
charge coupled stages, or for that matter, with Keely in his use of
sequentially applied vibrations. Each turn of wire around a Tesla
coil, or each crossover of a caduceus coil is the same in effect.
The materials in the MRA are all optically active, which engages them
in the P-channel via the CTP process. If light is reflected away from
the MRA, or if it is optically shielded, it loses all effect. For the
record, however, we have seen most, if not, all of the "anomalous"
criteria associated with unity + devices. The piezo will lose weight.
Clocks and watches run slow. Some wires in the series path stay cool.
And, of course, there's the matter of excess potential above noload.
And still, we've only begun. The design is three weeks old. I've
refused to download the I-Net data, because I feel very strongly about
keeping focused, and don't need to hear all of CEM "rules" repeated,
as if I had never heard them before, nor the condescension of fools in
their glory. Let them enjoy their moment, as Faust did his.
Of far more importance to us all is the recognition of manna, and I
want to thank you for taking the time and energy to transcribe that
entire tape into a file. It's the most important news in two thousand
years, and it will never see newsprint, so without you, many more
people would have remained ignorant. I think that the "old growth"
forests mentioned in the "Celestine Ptophecy" radiate energetic manna,
the energy of life.
Guess that's all for now, and thank you for your posts.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10492 DATE/TIME: 01/08/95 11:05 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: MRA Parts Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
Bill:
I sent a package of MRA info to Don Smith down in Houston for he has a
similar circuit to the MRA except that it uses a Tesla coil running at
high voltages to interactwith the earth's weak ferro-magnetic field to
produce over-unity operation. A lot of people have practically given
up on Don's device for he has not powered a practical load to date
that we know of but his theory is sound as far as I can determine. An
incorporation of what we have learned about ferro-magnetic resonance
frequencies and his Tesla coil driven circuit could provide another
effective method of ZPE tapping.
Don has done some research on the piezo material and pinned down three
current manufacturers of these transducers. The first is ADDCHEM a
spin off from the PENWALT family. Then there is SOLVA and KERRA.
He also went to the speciality wire manufacturers and asked about
making a piezo type conductor that could be incorporated directly into
our circuits. The wire manufacturers were amused to say the least for
their comments were "we have been working all these years to make a
wire that produced no noise and you come along and ask for a
degenerate conductor that will make maximum noise". They are
interested in the concept though and will get back to us with the data
needed.
I would not be too quick to judge the MRA as a non reproduceable
device for between Joel and I we have built 8 of the units and have
been able to achieve the over-unity ratios that we are comfortable
with. The biggest problem that I see is that no one wants to take the
time to do the necessary reading of the messages, tech reports and go
out and find the materials.
We clearly stated that we do not have all the answers and have not
nailed down exactly what will or will not work as to magnet type or
shape.
The piezo is a big variable for we have a stack of culls which just
will not work. We expect that they have lost the poling that was done
at time of manufacturer. I know that there is someone out there on the
Internet who has experience in this area.
Dan Davidson told me that to the best of his knowledge the poling is
done at the "currie point" of the piezo material with a capacitive
discharge used to establish the required "polarity of charge". If
anyone out there has knowledge in this area please give us some input
so we can revive some of these "dead" piezo's. I'm sure others will
encounter this problem so we need more knowledge about the piezo
element.
Since the "Jury" is still out as far as testing is concerned we have
to wait but in the meantime Joel and I are still building more working
devices.
Since Joel and I have agreed not to accept any re-imbursement of any
kind you have to understand the expense we have encountered to get the
info out that we have so far sent. Each info pack that I send out is
over an inch thich and the postage and reproduction cost is roughly
$15.00 per shot. MRA shipping runs $4.10 UPS up to $13.00 FedX. Joel
and I do the best we can within our budget. So far I have expended
about $400 free gratus to a bunch of folks so I'm not int the mood to
hear a bunch of "bitching".
The whole purpose of this exercise was to "share knowledge" and
encourage others to do "research". We are not going to ship kits like
something you would expect to find down at your "FREE ENERGY" hobby
shop.
Sorry
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10506 DATE/TIME: 01/08/95 22:49 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel: Neodymimum; 15.58 excess @ 35840 P: no light S: light P:43.3L
27.72 NL .
What say?
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10508 DATE/TIME: 01/09/95 08:12 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
Alnico "8" 20.84 Excess @ 36100 P: 48.60 L P: 27.76 NL
Seems that the harder the magnet material the closer we get to the
natural resonance of the transducer. The MRA cannot tell the
difference between materials. Sorry, "Mother Nature" made all magnetic
flux the same "hyperspacial" frequency therefore the boy scout cannot
tell the scout master that the reason he got lost was because his
compass was not tuned to the right frequency.
The MRA is capable of extracting or pair coupling in the "P" channel
no matter what the source of magnetic flux be it the earth's natural
flux or some "exotic" mix of elements we call super magnets.
Don Smith is going to love this for it vendicates his valient efforts
which appeared to be dashed on the rocks of failure. "RESEARCH" is the
key.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10543 DATE/TIME: 01/10/95 12:08 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: MRA lamp Z test Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Oh no... not another MRA test report!!! When is that *@#& Joel going
to stop publishing that !#@* stuff here? Well, probably fairly soon.
Fact is, the only reason that this report is here is because of the
problems with measuring the primary current of this beast. The MRA
adds voltage to the circuit, which is nice, but it creates ALL KINDS
of current measurement problems.
So, I have appended the "grain of wheat" lamp test to give real
numbers instead of just seeing the difference in light. I put one of
the lamps directly on the signal generator output, and measured its
impedance at the frequency of the MRA under test. Why? Well, because
the lamp can thus be put into the primary, and when you measure the
voltage drop across it, you can divide that by the impedance and KNOW
the actual primary current... no need to worry about the excess
voltage, because if any of it "adds" across the lamp, primary current
will appear HIGHER, which would reduce the gain of the MRA, and help
to disprove it as an overunity device.
I'll take that chance, as long as I know the exact impedance of the
lamp.
Also, where there is a difference in measured versus calculated output
current, I've taken the lower number, also to be ultra-conservative.
So, here goes:
The "lamp test" of the MRA has been further used for the purpose of
standard "ohm's law" tests and measurements. The "bottom line" figures
are 470.0 mw input to the primary of the MRA and 751.0 mw output from
the secondary. This is a gain of 1.6 times unity at the low power end
of the resonant range. The measurements and calculations are given
below:
AC signal in = 28.94 VAC under load of the MRA AC signal in = 28.54
VAC without the MRA connected AC excess potential provided by the MRA
= 0.40 VAC
AC signal at secondary = 8.64 VAC Measured secondary current = 123 ma
Voltage drop across lamp = 2.92 VAC Calculated current = 2.92 VAC \
20.77 ohms = 140 ma with an error margin of 17 ma from measured
current Secondary power = 8.64 VAC times 123 ma times .707 = 751 mw
Bulb impedance = 20.77 ohms at the freq input to the MRA AC voltage
drop across bulb in series with primary = 0.470 VAC Primary current =
0.470 VAC \ 20.77 ohms = .0226 Amperes Primary power = .0226 Amperes
times 28.94 VAC times .707 = 462 mw Lamp power = .0226 Amperes times
0.470 VAC times 0.707 = 7.5 mw
To cross check these numbers, the total primary impedance was
calculated, and the impedance of the lamp was subtracted from it. If
accurate, the difference in power should equal the power which is
added to the primary when the lamp is not connected:
Primary impedance = 28.94 VAC divided by .0226 Amperes = 1280.53 ohms
Subtracting lamp impedance of 20.77 ohms = 1259.76 ohms Primary power
with lamp = 462 mw
Primary power without lamp = 28.94 VAC divided by 1259.76 ohms =
.02297 Amperes times 28.94 VAC = 665 times .707 = 470 mw
Calculated power of lamp = 7.5 mw and under cross check it is equal to
470 mw minus 462 mw = 8 mw, with an error margin of 0.5 mw
Because: A. The lamp impedance was measured out of circuit at the
frequency used in the circuit B. The same lamp impedance is used for
both primary and secondary current measurements C. Primary power
tracks on cross check Therefore D. Primary power = 470 mw
I THINK that nails it... at least as far as can be measurd with a low
power lamp, and assuming that the MRA should eat any differences in
measurement versus calculations which would reduce its gain. All of
the measurements are in series for current, as per ohm's law, and all
other calculations are ohm's "to the letter".
As usual, my coffee got cold, so I'll stop here. Thank you for your
continued indulgence.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10548 DATE/TIME: 01/10/95 14:53 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : ALL
Subject: Lamp Z test followup Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Just an addendum to the lamp impedance test report. Found that the
circuit would not stay at unity + indefinitely at that very low level
of input. After about an hour, the voltage drop across the lamp in the
primary went up to over a volt, and that knocked the MRA down below
unity. I think that the low level of input wasn't enough to sustain
the harmonics that had built up as the MRA was warming up.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10551 DATE/TIME: 01/10/95 17:31 From : BOB PADDOCK To : NORMAN
WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA (Power Test) Folder : A, "Public Mail"
| | NM> ..A vaccuum tube is the only animal that could survive the |
NM> punishment in a high voltage circuit like this. Bob Paddock's |
NM> indestructible transistors won't cut it in this harsh environment.
| NM> Thoughts and ideas. | | I've come across a couple of more
transistors for | crummy environments. | | Motorola's TMOS
Smartdiscret Products. | | For example 400V/10A IGBT,
MGBP20N40CL/MGB20N40CL, | "designed primarily as ignition coil drivers
to withstand | high current in a pulsed mode with out latching." | | |
Or more interestingly the 60V/1A MLP1N06CL "device | that has
integrated on-chip current limit capability, | drain-to-source voltage
clamping and gate voltage | protection." | | | Also National
Semiconductor "Overture" [TM] Audio | Power Amplifier Series with
SPiKe [TM] Protection. | | "The performance of the
876/LM3886/LM3875/LM3876, | utilizing its Self Peak Instantaneous
Temperature ('Ke) | (SPiKe[TM]) Protection Circuitry, puts it in a
class above | discrete and hybrid amplifiers by providing an
inherently, | dynamically protected Salve Operation Area (SOA). SPiKe
| Protection means that these parts are completely safeguarded | at
the output against over voltage, under voltage, overloads, | including
shorts to the supplies, thermal runaway, and | instantaneous
temperature peaks." | | Specs are 25W to 150W (Depending on part
number) of | continuous average power to 8 ohm load with 0.06% (THD+N)
| from 20 Hz-20KHz. | ----------------------------------------
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Message 10553 DATE/TIME: 01/10/95 17:35 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) MRA Tech Notes Folder : A, "Public
Mail"
JM> I think that this is related to the poling of the JM>
piezos...possibly it is lost on some in the process of JM> soldering
them.
I talked with some one who was familiar with Ultrasonic Welding. The
said that the piezos where typical compressed a with rubber
compression setup, and contact was made with brass springs.
Would this work better/worse than soldering? Yet an other point to
experiment with...
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Message 10562 DATE/TIME: 01/10/95 19:28 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To :
NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: I Be Tired! Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Well, tomorrow is the one month birthday of the MRA, and dude, I'm
TIRED. Except for Christmas Day and New Year's Day, I've been testing
this critter seven days a week, some days all night and right on into
the next day....I've unhooked the one for Hal and will start getting
it wrapped and packed up, and then I'm going to go totally brain dead
for a while. Just read and relax.
I don't want to hear "eeeeeeee" all day and night from the piezo and
magnet for a while. While we wait to hear back from the test sites,
I'm not going to give it another thought. Suggest you might want to
try the same, as I suspect we're both getting a little worn around the
edges. C'ya,
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10569 DATE/TIME: 01/11/95 07:35 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : BOB PADDOCK Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bob:
Thanks a million for the package and the schematics. I'm very
interested in the "high performance" transistors so I really
appreciate your search efforts.
The magnets are bonded together so don't try to separate them for they
break very easily.
As to the transducers Joel and I have not figured out the .07 figure.
In the batch I bought they were sorted out and grouped under that
number ie. all the .07's were together then there would be a group of
.09's etc. Some sort of matching they did at manufacturering. I guess
they were installed in the welders in matched sets so as to have the
highest performance.
The brass strip method of providing electrical contact works for I
have several mounted this way in between two pressure plates so I can
torque them down to about 100 # pressure which Dan Davidson recommende
I try.
The other train of thought is to make the contacts in a way as to
allow the piezo to freely resonate in free air with minimum contact at
any point.
Soldering directly to the silver surface is detrimental to the piezo
as evidenced by our stack of "dead transducers". They are in effect
almost a pure capacitive device and will give off a very loud "squeal"
when they go "sour" and quit working.
I know that someone who works with these devices will eventually "jump
in" and educate us about these animals. The sooner the better.
These "OEM" items are always like that for they are manufactured for
use in a specific piece of equipment with precise specs. We come along
and try to adapt this device to one of our experiments out of
convenience since we picked them up surplus. This is OK for
experimentation and all out there should realize the facts behind what
I said. When questions arise as to data on the transducers I would say
that we really don't know what we are dealing with but they work.
When we get further along and get some "optimum" numbers we may be
able to go to the original "OEM" source and have some super piezo's
designed that will target the performance curves that we develope
through trial and error.
It would be nice if there was a computer program that could analyze
the MRA parameters and design the optimum piezo characteristics we
need. Right now all we can say is that in a circuit that does
everything "contrary" to accepted electronic and physics theory we
can't get a handle on exact and optimum design characteristics. It
will eventally take a team of specialized engineers to figure out how
to take this MRA idea and make it do usefull work.
All we have done is open the "door" to the fact that tapping the Zero
Point is real and can be demonstrated. Where and how this is developed
remains to be seen.
Once the fundamental theory is proven then very large sums of capital
will be thrown into research and all this will become reality.
All we could do was give the info to the world and let smarter folks
run with it to it's usefull application in solving our energy
problems. What more can I say.
Thanks again Bob and good luck with your MRA.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10590 DATE/TIME: 01/12/95 09:20 From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA Parts Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I scanned your document and put it on my web page on Sunday night.
Anyone coming there for MRA updates will see it. I managed to get it
down to 150K. Shall I upload a copy so you can see that the resolution
is acceptable? I'll "advertize" it in the cold fusion news area. ] I
got your package Monday, and have spent a few hours messing with it.
THANKS! Excellent packaging job, nothing damaged at all. It seems that
my signal generator can't put out a high enough voltage to get the
effect to kick in. Next I'm going to get a friend's Carver amp. My
Wavetek at work puts out 20 Vpp, but it gets pulled down to 8Vpp at
resonance, and the energy throughput is totally conventional: exactly
100% at resonance, and falling fast at other frequencies. The magnet
does NOT make any noise, and all the signals in the circuit are pure
sine waves, without any other frequencies. ] I have brochures on the
way from five separate PZT manufactures, so I should get some info on
"poling." Speaking of which: the piezos themselves behave very strange
near resonance. All kinds of pure tones appear, and turn on and off
when frequency or voltage is varied. The best freq for this seems to
be a bit higher than the resonance peak. I saw signals start small and
slowly grow, then vanish when the piezo is touched, only to slowly
grow again. I got the "death" effect, when the piezo makes a screech
and then the sounds vanish for about a half hour. Very similar to that
TVQ optoisolator device. Also similar to nonlinear optical crystals
illuminated with laser light, where conventional phase conjugation
creates closed reflection paths, optical resonances, self-organized
hologram elements, etc. I wouldn't be suprised if the innards of the
piezos were doing the acoustic version of this. I notice that when a
piezo is being silent, sometimes I can get it to sound weakly by
applying slight pressure to the leads. It seems that tiny bending
forces have a great effect on piezo audible "subharmonic" sounds. I
wonder if your piezo "culls" could be made to work by pulling or
pushing just right on the lead wires. Also, the "culls" may generate a
set of frequencies that just by coincidence miss the magnet resonant
frequency, so they are too far off for the piezo and magnet
frequencies to grab each other and start talking. The cure for this
might be to grind little flat areas on the edges to retune them. ] I
have a couple of ceramic slab magnets, so I built a plexi form and
wound a coil around it, with the magnet suspended inside. With an
extremely tiny signal applied to the coil at 11KHZ the magnet rings
VERY loud (and annoying!) If I touch the corners of the magnet slab,
the ringing goes way down and the tuning is much broader. Instead of
suspending the magnet, I found that soft foam rubber does not
interfere much with the ringing of either the magnet or the piezo.
This makes sense, since foam is mostly air, so the magnet thinks its
hanging in air.
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Message 10595 DATE/TIME: 01/12/95 10:22 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : BILL
BEATY Subject: MRA Parts Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
Glad you got everthing "intact" and you are progressing with your
research. If you stick strictly to the RULE9 doc. and make the magnet
resonate (about 8-8.5K audible) you will find the piezo running at
exactly 3 octaves up or around 34-35KHZ. Only under these conditions
will you achieve the "virtual rotation" within the crystalline lattice
of the magnet material.
Check out the "E" message from Joel about the phone call from the
engineers at Lockeed Corp that verify that the MRA does achieve
over-unity for they are getting 140% and congratulate us on our output
figures. They said that some German and Russian engineers have
achieved similar results also. last night I got a call from an
engineer down in Clearwater FL. who is getting 125% and is not
evenuseing the "cadilac" piezoe's that we are useing.
The iron content of the ferro magnet material seems to be the key to
the gains. It all goes back to what Tesla claimed when he said "A fine
grade of steel will play a very important part in tapping an infinite
source of energy for iron is a unique element in that it has 2 free
electrons in the "M" shell of the atom that can be extracted for use
only to be replinished by the ether".
About the document scan, I really appreciate your efforts with this
for in the near future you will see where this is going. By the way, I
sent Gene Mallove a set of the messages and all the info on the
Perkins Pump and my Cold Fusion test etc. This will eventually all be
tied in a nice little package for it all goes back to Joel's RULE9
document.
Please send down the scan so I can see it. Maybe with the next I-net
download would be fine. As to the I-net dialog, the worm seems to be
turning. This "Rodney" in the Biology Group is simply going to SH--
when he reads the HUDSON file from Keely_Net. What about posting
something for the Biologist to chew on and quit griping about your
postings. Real soon they will wake up and realize the tie-in to their
world. More later "flack taker", He! He!
Thanks again.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10612 DATE/TIME: 01/12/95 20:41 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : BILL
BEATY Subject: MRA Testing Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill:
I too have a wavetek sig gen and suffer the same problem as you, no
guts with these new sig gen's. Joel has the "old standby" a HP 200 cd
which really belts out the voltage sufficient to drive the MRA
directly while you and I have to use an amplifier in line to boost the
signal to the necessary driving level of around 27 V.
A lot of this transistorized gadgetry is nice to have but the old
vaccuum tube stuff is better in my mind. I guess my age is showing for
I went through a DeVry correspondence cource in electronics back in
1953 when I was 15 years old and in high school. Boy those were the
days, TV was new on the scene and I got to build my very own
oscilloscope and vaccuum tube volt meter. WOW. Soon all my friend and
relatives wanted all their electronics fixed but were too cheap to pay
me. They called it a learning experience so I gave the whole lot to my
brother in law who was building his own Heath Kit color TV. Well I
learned enough theory to satisfy a youngster anyway.
If you run into any snags on your MRA just leave Joel and I a note for
we want all to have success at duplication.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10630 DATE/TIME: 01/13/95 18:01 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: Your Message # 10589 Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
I almost missed the P.S. after your message # 10589. The source of the
harmonics is the same as the source of the surplus potential. From
Keely, we learned the importance of three octaves in order to link up
with the ether. From Bearden, we learned that the harmonics are
(Whittaker) biwave pairs, and that the ether conforms to the Coulomb
Transverse Potential.
So, when the requisite criteria is met, the biwave pairs vector into
3-space energy at the harmonic frequencies. That's it.
The rest of the MRA theory is resonance theory, as is the Rule of
Nines, and exists to describe how to use naturally occuring lattice
structures to mimic earth (and any other EM generator) in terms of the
nested tetrahedral relationships.
Why three octaves? Because we exist in 3-space, and we are creating a
7-space effect, with the fourth dimension, or p-channel, acting as a
conduit into (and out of) 3-space. Now, a trained observer will want
to see exactly where the harmonic biwave translation occurs, and will
go nuts looking, because the wave pairs exist simultaneously with our
spacetimetime and translate instantaneously...no speed of light
required.
Why nested tetrahedral relationships? Because they are the geometric
relationships which embody PHI, and PHI is the pure mathematical
constant to create resonance...musical, or any other type.
That is why you see the excess potential at the load and source
simultaneously, and it is load dependent to the extent that the load
affects harmonic interaction of the magnetic core. That is why you
have to lower gain of the MRA to close the p-channel by removing the
excess potential first.
You can't see the translation, only you can only see the effect.
I look forward VERY MUCH to your tests and comments.
Joel ----------------------------------------
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Message 10634 DATE/TIME: 01/14/95 08:25 From : NORMAN WOOTAN --
RECEIVED -- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel:
New winding set up: BaFe magnet, AWM style 1860 1/4" ribbon braided
tinned conductor for secondary, AWG 20 Ga. stranded primary yeilded,
49.20V @ 28.55V sig for 20.65 excess potential @ 36.18KHZ. We will
find that correct wire type and turns ratio yet. I,m useing 100 T on P
and 100 T on Sec. I have several more combo's yet to try so will keep
you posted.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10640 DATE/TIME: 01/14/95 10:49 From : JOEL MCCLAIN --
RECEIVED -- To : BILL BEATY Subject: PHI and the MRA Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
The last message wasn't as clear as I would have liked with regard to
PHI. I once worked out the harmonic and octave relationships as PHI
(and PI, since PI = PHI squared, times 6/5... thus PHI squared =
PI...also, 1 + 1/PHI = PHI, which is also known as the Fibonacci
Series).
The file PHI&RES.ASC has some of this information, and because the
"notes" harmonize perfectly and the octaves double exactly, this
conforms to "standard" musical scales as are used today. Using the
Fibonacci series as a starting place for note frequencies is not an
arbitrary decision.
Today, we see PHI as a methematical constant, ie, 1.618, for use in
plane geometry. To the ancient Egyptians, it was math but had a much
deeper implication...it was the symbol of rebirth throughout eternity
just as the Fibonacci series "perfects" at higher number intervals.
Also, because the use of PHI in art is very "harmonious" to view,
PHI coordinates (nested tets) were used by Michelangelo in the dome of
the Sistine Chapel, as well as by Veronese, Raphael, da Vinci, and was
even used by the architect Le Corbusier in the design of the United
Nations building.
In retrospect, I think that this must be a perfect validation of the
resonance based chart of the elements as created by Walter Russell,
although he certainly doesn't need any validation from me. The fact
is, music is math and geometry, and geometry is the yardstick for
three dimensional existance. It's all one nested relationship, and the
singular constant is PHI. If you want to create resonance and balanced
harmonics in octave groups, you must use PHI. Because we tend to
separate "music" from "science", we don't HEAR nature, and we trust
our intellect to create unnatural yardsticks. Fact is, when computers
were invented, and IBM needed programmers, they hired musicians to
train for the positions.
In an electronic circuit, semiconductors are made of silicon or
germanium, both of which are tet lattice structures, and both of which
will occasionally break into free oscillation, rich in PHI based
harmonics...that is how the Nieper ring works, because once the
material has three octaves of resonance, the particle spin is
virtually stopped... like a timing mark under a strobe... and the
effect of gravity is suspended.
Three octaves are necessary in 3-space because the each of the octaves
"fills" one dimension. The octaves interact with each other to make
harmonics at 90 degrees of phase separation, effectively "filling" a
3-space object. This is mass aggregate resonance, and it allows you to
couple biwave vectorless energy into a circuit. It also allows you to
overcome temporal effects as well as gravitic effects. That is why I
said that when you nest two tets, you have the keys to everything.
The MRA uses materials which are cube latticed, and a cube IS a nested
tet sitting on its "flat side". So, when you trap the harmonics on one
side of a phase reversed series resonant circuit, you develop a
potential which is higher than the noload voltage of the device which
is supplying the circuit. That's half of ZPE. The other half is having
ferrite in the resonating core to provide electrons to match with the
excess potential to create power to a load. And that's the MRA.
Part of the resentment to this information is simply due to the fact
that all of this was known to and possibly discovered by very ancient
peoples...and we are lagging behind them today in our comprehension of
science as nature, by the division of music and science, etc. Well,
all I really wanted to do was to provide correlations to help tie in
the octave relationships with the lattice geometry, and I hope that
this information helps. You can see how well it is received by most
people, but you can also measure the excess potential on your own MRA
so you'll have to decide for yourself.
Enjoy. ----------------------------------------
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Message 10641 DATE/TIME: 01/14/95 13:10 From : BILL BEATY To : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of MRAMSGS5.ZIP Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I upload MRAMSGS5.ZIP. The 'flames' have almost entirely died down.
There are even some interesting ones.
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Message 10647 DATE/TIME: 01/14/95 15:57 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To
: BILL BEATY Subject: (R) Re: Upload of MRAMSGS5.ZIP Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Hi Bill! Boom, they are HERE! Thanks...>>> Jerry
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Message 10660 DATE/TIME: 01/15/95 03:51 From : CHRIS FLAMIG To : ALL
Subject: MRA / octaves Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Can some one explain to me just what Keely meant by octaves, while I
am familiar with harmonics, and musical octaves, I am having a hard
time with the Rule of 9 thing.. Some math and frequency examples would
be instrumental in clearing up my confusion... or simply relating it
to music theory... I play a pretty good guitar.
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Message 10663 DATE/TIME: 01/15/95 11:52 From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) To
: CHRIS FLAMIG Subject: (R) MRA / octaves Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Chris!
Octaves are simply doublings of a note. Read the file BRINTON.ASC, it
is pure Keely and to the point.... everything Keely did was based on a
principle of THIRDS and referred to ratios as in 1:3:6, etc..... for
Octaves, if 440 is your fundamental, then 2 X 440 = 880 and would be
the 1st octave OF THAT fundamental, 2 X 880 =1760 and is the 2nd
octave of the fundamental of 440..... it all relates to what you are
using as your fundamental.... there are many music scales which also
can be confusing. The two most common were further confused by a
convention that is no longer used.
Rule of 9 is an extrapolation based on several observations and I
think when one first gets into this, one should stick to the basics
and not get off into extrapolations... they are interesting to study,
but will confuse you in the event you don't have a grounded
understanding.
A key study in this matter is Dr. Angus MacVicar's 'A Sketch of a
Philosophy', he correlates matter to geometric form, yet what you are
wanting to know is much farther up the ladder than the primary
understanding of frequency and musical intervals. Try Brinton.
As to musical scales, one system consisted of 8 whole notes with NO
half tones (flats & sharps), the other consists of 12 notes, 8 whole
and 4 half. Keely would refer to F flat, flat which would fold back
over to A sharp. A sharp is a 1/2 tone higher, a flat is 1/2 tone
lower.
Just remember it all relates to the FUNDAMENTAL of the mass aggregate
frequency and because of differences in size and character, fixed
freqs apply only to certain natural aggregates such as H2O at 42.8khz
and other elements or molecules which have their own frequencies...
>>> Jerry ----------------------------------------
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Message 10666 DATE/TIME: 01/15/95 13:21 From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED
-- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) MRA (Power Test) Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
| | NW> A vaccuum tube is the only animal that could survive the | NW>
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Message 10678 DATE/TIME: 01/16/95 02:56 From : JOHN PETERS -- RECEIVED
-- To : JOEL MCCLAIN Subject: (R) mmmmm....could be! Folder : A,
"Public Mail"
Joel--
thanks for the inciteful commentary. I've asked some math professors
about Quarterions and they haven't heard of them. As I am now
attending college fulltime, I will poke around for some info on them.
I have a couple of more things for you on the MRA:
After studying the schematic for the MRA, I noticed that the
Ultrasonic transducer would have a very high electrical "Q". To get
maximum power out of the circuit, I think the magnet and coil
combination should also have as high a "Q" as possible. Can a magnet
have a "Q"?? I understand that magnets seem to produce (resonate) an
output near 175 KHz.
Would a stronger magnet put out a higher amplitude signal at 175 KHz?
I suspect the stronger magnet (higher gauss) would have an effectively
higher "Q", thus possibly getting more out of the MRA. For a given
transducer, has anyone noted a leveling-off of output for increased
strengths of magnets?
Your input would be greatly
[ seemed to have lost the rest of this message -- CF ]
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Message 10680 DATE/TIME: 01/16/95 06:28 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : JOHN
PETERS Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
John:
Since I have been doing the testing of different winding combo's and
magnet material while Joel is doing the performance testing I may be
able to answer your questions as to a more powerful magnet material
giving a better performance. That ain't the way it works as far as we
have been able to determine.
We are dealing with a phenomenom here that is hard to grasp in that we
are generating in the primary of the MRA circuit what we term as
excess potential. This means that the voltage across the primary input
to the MRA as coming from the signal source is driven up as much as
1.9 X.
Example: I have a MRA running as we speak that has a signal source
from the amp of 20.95 VAC @36KHZ no load (MRA out of the circuit).
when I connect the MRA to the signal source the voltage goes up to
38.27 VAC for an excess potential of 17.32 V.
While stronger magnet material such as alnico 8 and neodymimum
increase the excess poterntial seen in the circuit we have not been
able to translate it into a useable output. Still some matching
problems that we may be able to work out and be able to utilize these
other magnet types. We believe the answer lies in the looseness of the
domains in the magnet and their ability to oscillate so we get the
"virtual rotation" we are looking for. I'm sure that all this will be
worked out and it may be possible to use anything that has a magnetic
field including the "old mother earth".
The whole idea of going "public domain" was to get others to
experiment with the circuit so we could sort all this out faster. If
Joel and I can find this phenomenon then others should be able to help
us "flesh it out" into something usefull.
My friend Mike down in Clearwater FL. (one of Don Kelly's group) has a
MRA running at unity but he has not seen the excess potential that I
described therefore this is an indication that his piezo is not up to
"snuff". We have found that the piezo is very sensitive in that it can
lose it's poling when you solder the input leads to it. Joel and I
have a stack of piezo's that just will not show the over-unity we are
looking for while others work just fine.
For this reason we have gone to Internet in search for someone who has
extensive knowledge of piezo's and their applications. Thus far we
have had no responses. Please experiment and help the cause.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10682 DATE/TIME: 01/16/95 07:14 From : BOB PADDOCK To : CHRIS
FLAMIG Subject: (R) MRA message base Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The problem with 10494 is it has a Control-Z in the end off it.
Happens often unfortinatily. You can download them to your capture
buffer then fix it with Nortons disk editor. Or just start reading at
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Message 10683 DATE/TIME: 01/16/95 08:38 From : NORMAN WOOTAN To : ALL
Subject: MRA Folder : A, "Public Mail"
OK, Here is the pertinent messages that led up to the development of
the MRA device. I know that many have been logging on the Keely-Net
searching in the message traffic to trace the MRA in it's early
stages.
It all started back on Oct 9, 94 in message #8832 where Joel noticed
the first "anomolous" output of a piezo when resonated. Messages #'s
9626, 9632, 9634, 9658, 9664 worked out the ferro-magnetic frequency
we needed. On Dec 5, 94 in message # 9704 the transformer effect was
noted and on Dec 6, 94 in message # 9712 Joel named the effect as
"Magnetic Resonant Amplifier".
Further development was noted in messages #'s 9772, 9800, 9801, 9806.
The MRA was "born" in messages #'s 9807 and 9812.
The MRA was posted to the Keely-Net for world wide distribution on Dec
12, 1994 in message # 9822 as MRA.ZIP.
The problem we have is that the development of the MRA device and
other proprietory research was conducted in a private channel we use
for research purposes. Jerry can pull out these messages and make them
available for others to do research and understand some of the
background behind the MRA.
Norm ----------------------------------------
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Message 10685 DATE/TIME: 01/16/95 11:28 From : JOEL MCCLAIN To : JOHN
PETERS Subject: (R) mmmmm....could be! Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi John,
Going to college full time and still finding time to ask questions
outside of your designated curriculum? I'm impressed. I'll try to make
the answers worthy of the questions.
The Q of the circuit, like any series resonant circuit at resonance,
is very high. The MRA output follows the contours of the Universal
Resonance Chart for series resonant circuits, except for the point of
intersection with input current. The current is forced low while still
in the area of its linear rise according to the chart, and is at
minimum at the 65% point where it should be at the "knee" of its peak
rise. That is manifested as a very high circuit impedance, for as you
know, a series resonant circuit is supposed to be a dead short at
resonance except for copper losses. Because there is excess potential,
ie, the voltage level across the output terminals of the signal source
which supplies the MRA is higher when connected to the MRA than it is
with nothing connected to it, the MRA is not behaving like a dead
short or even like an impedance, but more like a voltage
supply...which, as you will see, is what it is.
The magnet is merely a saturable ferrite core, except that it is also
a magnet in resonance, and its harmonics are being reflected, or fed
back into the primary by the piezo. Here is where we have to figure
this out ourselves, because there is no "prior art" that this has ever
been done before. The result is the creation of a potential which is
applied to the piezo in opposition to the supply potential, and which
literally pushes back supply current which increases supply voltage.
In the process of doing this, this created potential is converting
flux into electrons to keep this "new" current circulating in the
series p in tha t we
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