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Frequently Asked Questions About Car Audio, Part 2
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3 Components
This section describes various components that you can have in
a car audio system, along with common specifications, desirable
features, some of the best and worst brands, and so on.
Be aware that there is no standardized testing mechanism in
place for rating car audio products. As such, manufacturers
are open to exaggerating, "fudging", or just plain lying when
it comes to rating their own products.
3.1 What do all of those specifications on speakers mean? [JSC,CD]
"Input sensitivity" is the SPL the driver will produce given
one watt of power as measured from one meter away given some
input frequency (usually 1kHz unless otherwise noted on the
speaker). Typical sensitivities for car audio speakers are
around 90dB/Wm. Some subwoofers and piezo horns claim over
100dB/Wm. However, some manufacturers do not use true 1W
tests, especially on low impedance subwoofers. Rather, they
use a constant voltage test which produces more impressive
sensitivity ratings.
"Frequency response" in a speaker refers to the range of
frequencies which the speaker can reproduce within a certain
power range, usually +/-3dB.
"Impedance" is the impedance of the driver (see 1.1), typically
4 ohms, although some subwoofers are 8 ohms, some stock Delco
speakers are 10 ohms, and some stock Japanese imports are 6
ohms.
"Nominal power handling" is the continuous power handling of
the driver. This figure tells you how much power you can put
into the driver for very long periods of time without having to
worry about breaking the suspension, overheating the voice
coil, or other nasty things.
"Peak power handling" is the maximum power handling of the
driver. This figure tells you how much power you can put into
the driver for very brief periods of time without having to
worry about destroying it.
3.2 Are component/separates any better than fullrange or coaxials? [JSC,DK]
Usually, yes. Using separates allows you to position the
drivers independently and more carefully, which will give you
greater control over your imaging. For best results, try to
keep the mid and tweeter as close together as possible -- this
will make the two drivers act more like a single point source
(which is ideal).
For rear fill applications, however, coaxial speakers will perform
fine, as imaging is not a primary concern. However, it is very
common to use a low pass crossover with the rear speakers (at
2500 Hz) since rear-fill is intended to produce "ambiance," and
high frequencies (> 2500 Hz) can confuse the soundstage, making
it appear that music is originating behind you.
3.3 What are some good (and bad) brands of speakers? [JSC]
People will emotionally defend their particular brand of
speakers, so asking what the "best" is is not a good idea.
Besides, the best speaker is the one which suits the
application the best. In general, however, various people have
claimed excellent experiences with such brands as Boston
Acoustics, MB Quart, a/d/s/, and Polk. Also, most people agree
that you should avoid brands like Sparkomatic and Kraco at all
costs.
3.4 What do all of those specifications on amplifiers mean? [JSC,BG]
"Frequency response" refers to the range of frequencies which
the amplifier can reproduce within a certain power range,
usually +/-3dB.
"Continuous power output" is the power output of the amplifier
into one channel into a certain load (usually four ohms) below
a certain distortion level (usually at most 1%THD) at a certain
frequency (usually 1kHz). A complete power specification
should include all of this information, e.g. "20W/ch into 4
ohms at < 0.03%THD at 1kHz" although this can also be stated as
(and be assumed equivalent to) "20W/ch at < 0.03%THD". The
amplifier should also be able to sustain this power level for
long periods of time without difficulties such as overheating.
"Peak power output" is the power output of the amplifier into
one channel into a certain load (usually four ohms) below a
certain distortion level (usually much higher than the
continuous rating level) at a certain frequency (usually
1kHz). A complete power specification should include all of
this information, e.g. "35W/ch into 4 ohms at < 10.0%THD at
1kHz" although this can also be stated as (and be assumed
equivalent to) "35Wch at < 10.0%THD". Consumer warning: some
manufacturers will state the "peak power output" rating by
including the amount of power which can be drawn from
"headroom", which means power supply capacitors. They usually
will not tell you this in the specification, however; indeed,
they tend to prominently display the figure in big, bold
letters on the front of the box, such as "MAXIMUM 200W PER
CHANNEL!!!" when the continuous rating is 15W/ch and the unit
has a 5A fuse.
"Damping factor" represents the ratio of the load being driven
(that is, the speaker - usually four ohms) to the output
impedance of the amplifier (that is, the output impedance of
the transistors which drive the speakers). The lower the
output impedance, the higher the damping factor. Higher
damping factors indicate a greater ability to help control the
motion of the cone of the speaker which is being driven. When
this motion is tightly controlled, a greater transient response
is evident in the system, which most people refer to as a
"tight" or "crisp" sound. Damping factors above 100 are
generally regarded as good.
"Signal to Noise" or "S/N" is the ratio, usually expressed in
decibels, of the amount of true amplified output of the
amplifier to the amount of extraneous noise injected into the
signal. S/N ratios above 90 to 95dB are generally regarded as
good.
3.5 What is "bridging"? Can my amp do it? [JSC]
Bridging refers to taking two channels of an amplifier and
combining them to turn the amplifier into a one channel
amplifier. In normal operation, one wire which goes to a
speaker from the amplifier is "neutral", that is, the potential
never changes (with respect to another fixed point, like
ground). The other wire is "hot", that is, it carries the
fluctuating AC speaker signal. The speaker "sees" a potential
between these two leads, and so there is a voltage applied to
the speaker. When an amplifier is bridged, both leads are
"hot". However, one signal must be inverted, or else the
speaker will never see a potential, as both wires are carrying
roughly the same signal. With one signal inverted, the speaker
will see a signal that is twice as great as one signal alone.
Thus, if your amplifier does not have a switch or button of
some sort which inverts one channel, you cannot bridge your
amplifier (unless you build an external inverter). With
respect to power, the commonly accepted definition is that when
you bridge an amplifier, you add all of the characteristics of
the bridged channels together. Thus, if you bridge an
amplifier that is 50W/ch into 4 ohms at < 0.05%THD, your
bridged channel is 100W/ch into 8 ohms at < 0.10%THD.
Therefore, an amplifier which is 2 ohm stable in stereo mode is
only 4 ohm stable in bridged mono mode, and an amp which is 4
ohm stable in stereo is only 8 ohm stable in bridged mono.
3.6 What is "mixed-mono"? Can my amp do it? [JSC]
Some amplifiers which are both bridgeable and able to drive low
impedance loads also allow you to use "mixed-mono" mode. This
involves driving a pair of speakers in stereo mode as well as
simultaneously driving a single speaker in bridged mono mode
off of ONE pair of the amp's channels. What happens is that you
put your amp in bridged mode, which inverts one output signal.
You then connect the mono speaker as you normally would in bridged
mode. To the channel which is not inverted, you connect your
stereo speaker as you normally would. To the channel which is
inverted, you connect the other stereo speaker with its leads
reversed (+ to - and - to +) since the signal is inverted.
However, for this to work, the amplifier must actually use both
input channels in bridged mode. Many amplifiers, when placed
in bridged mode, will simply "copy" and invert either the left
or the right channel. This practice ensures high output to the
mono speaker, but eliminates the possibility of mixed mono
since you lose one channel.
3.7 What does "two ohm stable" mean? What is a "high-current"
amplifier? [JSC]
An x ohm stable amplifier is an amp which is able to
continuously power loads of x ohms per channel without
encountering difficulties such as overheating. Almost all car
amplifiers are at least four ohm stable. Some are two ohm
stable, which means that you could run a pair of four ohm
speakers in parallel on each channel of the amplifier, and each
channel of the amp would "see" two ohms. Some amps are
referred to as "high-current", which is a buzzword which
indicates that the amp is able to deliver very large
(relatively) amounts of current, which usually means that it is
stable at very low load impedances, such as 1/4 or 1/2 of an
ohm. Note that the minimum load rating (such as "two ohm
stable") is a stereo (per channel) rating. In bridged mode,
the total stability is the sum of the individual channels'
stability (see 3.5).
3.8 Should I buy a two or four (or more) channel amplifier? [JSC]
If you only have one line-level set of outputs available, and
wish to power two sets of speakers from a single amplifier, you
may be able to save money by purchasing a two channel amplifier
which is stable to two ohms rather than spending the extra
money for a four channel amp. If you do this, however, you
will be unable to fade between the two sets of speakers
(without additional hardware), and the damping factor of the
amplifier will effectively be cut in half. Also, the amp may
run hot and require fans to prevent overheating. If you have
the money, a four channel amp would be a better choice. You
would need to add a dual-amp balancer in order to maintain
fader capability, however, but it is more efficient than
building a fader for a two channel amp. If you wish to power a
subwoofer or additional speakers as well, you may want to
purchase a five or six channel amp.
3.9 What are some good (and bad) brands of amplifiers? [JSC, IDB]
As with speakers, people emotionally defend their amplifier, so
choosing the best is difficult. However, some brands stand out
as being consistently good while others are consistently bad.
Among the good are HiFonics, Phoenix Gold, a/d/s/, and
Precision Power.
Generally, "good" amplifiers tend to cost more (in money/watt)
than "bad" amplifiers. So when you see an amp advertising 300W
for only $100, and are comparing an amp with 50W for $300, you
will usually find that the 50W/$300 amp will be of much higher
quality than the 300W/$100 amp.
3.10 What is a crossover? Why would I need one? [JSC]
A crossover is a device which filters signals based on
frequency. A "high pass" crossover is a filter which allows
frequencies above a certain point to pass unfiltered; those
below that same point still get through, but are attenuated
according to the crossover slope. A "low pass" crossover is
just the opposite: the lows pass through, but the highs are
attenuated. A "band pass" crossover is a filter that allows a
certain range of frequencies to pass through while attenuating
those above and below that range. There are passive
crossovers, which are collections of purely passive (unpowered)
devices - mainly capacitors and inductors and sometimes
resistors. There are also active crossovers which are powered
electrical devices. Passive crossovers are typically placed
between the amplifier and the speakers, while active crossovers
are typically placed between the head unit and the amplifier.
There are a few passive crossovers on the market which are
intended for pre-amp use (between the head unit and the
amplifier), but the cutoff frequencies (also known as the
"crossover point", defined below) of these devices are not
typically well-defined since they depend on the input impedance
of the amplifier, which varies from amplifier to amplifier.
There are many reasons for using crossovers. One is to filter
out deep bass from relatively small drivers. Another is to
split the signal in a multi-driver speaker so that the woofer
gets the bass, the midrange gets the mids, and the tweeter gets
the highs.
Crossovers are categorized by their "order" and their
"crossover point". The order of the crossover indicates how
steep the attenuation slope is. A first order crossover "rolls
off" the signal at -6dB/octave (that is, quarter power per
doubling or halving in frequency). A second order crossover
has a slope of -12dB/octave; third order is -18dB/octave; etc.
The crossover point is generally the frequency at which the
-3dB point of the attenuation slope occurs. Thus, a first
order high pass crossover at 200Hz is -3dB down at 200Hz, -9dB
down at 100Hz, -15dB down at 50Hz, etc.
It should be noted that the slope (rolloff) of a crossover, as
defined above, is only an approximation. This issue will be
clarified in future revisions of this document.
The expected impedance of a passive crossover is important as well.
A crossover which is designed as -6dB/octave at 200Hz high pass
with a 4 ohm driver will not have the same crossover frequency
with a driver which is not 4 ohms. With crossovers of order
higher than one, using the wrong impedance driver will wreak
havoc with the frequency response. Don't do it.
3.11 Should I get an active or a passive crossover? [JSC,JR]
Active crossovers are more efficient than passive crossovers.
A typical "insertion loss" (power loss due to use) of a passive
crossover is around 0.5dB. Active crossovers have much lower
insertion losses, if they have any loss at all, since the
losses can effectively be negated by adjusting the amplifier
gain. Also, with some active crossovers, you can continuously
vary not only the crossover point, but also the slope. Thus,
if you wanted to, with some active crossovers you could create
a high pass filter at 112.3Hz at -18dB/octave, or other such
things.
However, active crossovers have their disadvantages as well.
An active crossover may very well cost more than an equivalent
number of passive crossovers. Also, since the active crossover
has separate outputs for each frequency band that you desire,
you will need to have separate amplifiers for each frequency
range. Furthermore, since an active crossover is by definition
a powered device, the use of one will raise a system's noise
floor, while passive crossovers do not insert any additional
noise into a system.
Many people find it advantageous to use both active and passive
crossovers. Often, a separate amp is dedicated to the subwoofers,
to give them as much power as possible. The other amplifier is
used to power the mids and tweeters. In this scheme, an active
crossover is used to send only the sub-bass frequencies to the
sub amp, and the other frequencies to the other amp. The passive
crossovers are used to send the correct frequencies to the
individual speakers (e.g., mids and tweeters).
Thus, if you have extra money to spend on an active crossover
and separate amplifiers, and are willing to deal with the
slightly more complex installation and possible noise problems,
an active crossover is probably the way to go. However, if you
are on a budget and can find a passive crossover with the
characteristics you desire, go with a passive.
3.12 How do I design my own passive crossovers? [JSC,JR]
A first order high pass crossover is simply a capacitor placed
inline with the driver. A first order low pass crossover is an
inductor inline with the driver. These roles can be reversed
under certain circumstances: a capacitor in parallel with a
driver will act as a low pass filter, while an inductor in
parallel with a driver will act as a high pass filter.
However, a parallel device should not be the first element in a
set; for example, using only a capacitor in parallel to a
driver will cause the amplifier to see a short circuit above
the cutoff frequency. Thus, a series device should always be
the first element in a crossover.
When like combinations are used, the order increases: a
crossover in series followed by an inductor in parallel is a
second order high pass crossover. An inductor in series
followed by a capacitor in parallel is a second order low pass
crossover.
To calculate the correct values of capacitors and inductors to
use, you need to know the nominal impedance (Z) of the circuit
in ohms and the desired crossover point (f) in hertz. The
needed capacitance in farads is then 1/(2 x pi x f x Z). The
needed inductance in henries is Z/(2 x pi x f). For example,
if the desired crossover point is 200Hz for a 4 ohm driver, you
need a 198.9 x 10^-6 F (or 199uF) capacitor for a high pass
first order filter, or a 3.18 x 10^-3 H (or 3.18mH) inductor
for a low pass first order filter.
To build a second order passive crossover, calculate the same
initial values for the capacitance and inductance, and then
decide whether you want a Linkwitz-Riley, Butterworth, or
Bessel filter. An L-R filter matches the attenuation slopes so
that both -3dB points are at the same frequency, so that the
system response is flat at the crossover frequency. A
Butterworth filter matches the slopes so that there is a peak
at the crossover frequency, and a Bessel filter is in between
the two. For an L-R filter, halve the capacitance and double
the inductance. For a Butterworth filter, multiply the
capacitance by 1/sqrt(2) and the inductance by sqrt(2). For a
Bessel filter, multiply the capacitance by 1/sqrt(3) and the
inductance by sqrt(3).
You should realize, too, that crossovers induce a phase shift
in the signal of 90 degrees per order. In a second order
filter, then, this can be corrected by simply reversing the
polarity of one of the drivers, since they would otherwise be
180 degrees out of phase with respect to each other. In any
case with any crossover, though, you should always experiment
with the polarity of the drivers to achieve the best total
system response.
One other thing to consider when designing passive crossovers is
the fact that most passive crossovers are designed based on the
speakers' nominal impedance. This value is NOT constant, as it
varies with frequency. Therefore, the crossover will not work
as it has been designed. To combat this problem, a Zobel circuit
(also known as "Impedance Stabilization Network") should be used.
This consists of a capacitor and resistor in series with one
another, in parallel with the speaker, e.g.,
________ __
+ o----| |----o-----o + | | /
INPUT | Xover | R1 | |/
| | C1 | |\
- o----|________|----o-----o - |__| \
To calculate these values, R1 = Re (in ohms) x 1.25, and C1 =
(Lces {in henries} / Re^2) * 10^6. See 4.1 for definitions of
Re and Lces. R1 will be in ohms, and C1 will be in uF (micro-
farads). As an example, an Orion XTR10 single voice coil woofer
has Re = 3.67 ohms and Lces = 0.78 mH. So, R1 = 3.67 * 1.25
= 4.6 ohms. C1 = ( 7.8E-4 / 3.67^2 ) * 10^6 = 57.9 uF (be
careful with units -- 0.78 mH = 7.8E-4 H)
As with the definition of crossover slopes, the above
definition of the phase shift associated with a crossover is
also an approximation. This will be addressed in future
revisions of this document.
For tips on building the crossover, please see section 3.30.
3.13 Should I buy an equalizer? [JSC]
Equalizers are normally used to fine-tune a system, and should
be treated as such. Equalizers should not be purchased to
boost one band 12dB and to cut another band 12dB and so on -
excessive equalization is indicative of more serious system
problems that should not simply be masked with an EQ. However,
if you need to do some minor tweaking, an EQ can be a valuable
tool. Additionally, some EQs have spectrum analyzers built in,
which makes for some extra flash in a system. There are two
main kinds of EQs available today: dash and trunk. Dash EQs
are designed to be installed in the passenger compartment of a
car, near the head unit. They typically have the adjustments
for anywhere from five to eleven (sometimes more) bands on the
front panel. Trunk EQs are designed to be adjusted once and
then stashed away. These types of EQs usually have many bands
(sometimes as many as thirty). Both types sometimes also have
crossovers built in.
3.14 What are some good (and bad) brands of equalizers? [HK]
Generally, companies that produce 1/3 octave (30 band) and 2/3
octave (15 band) equalizers are good. These include AudioControl,
USD, Rane, Phoenix Gold. Most people try to stay away from
equalizers that contain a "booster;" these are made by Kraco,
Urban Audio Works and others.
3.15 What do all of those specifications on tape deck head units mean?
3.16 What are features to look for in a tape deck?
3.17 What are some good (and bad) brands of tape decks?
3.18 What are features to look for in a CD head unit?
3.19 Should I buy a detachable faceplate or pullout CD player? [IDB]
It is getting difficult to find pullout CD players any more,
since detachable faceplates are much more convenient to carry
around. However, there is the obvious trade off -- it is still
possible to steal the chassis for the detachable face unit, when
that is not possible with a pullout. Although some companies
will advertise that it is very difficult to get replacement
faces without the original receipt, theives can still get the
faceplates.
Some companies, such as Eclipse, are starting to offer
alternative methods for preventing theft. Some Eclipse decks
now offer ESN (Eclipse Security Network), where the owner
chooses a "key" CD that must be inserted to "revive" the deck
should it lose power. The entire deck stays in the dash, with
nothing to carry around; this expands on the trend towards
convenience while offering the owner peace of mind.
3.20 What are some good (and bad) brands of CD head units? [HK]
Generally, Alpine, Clarion, Eclipse, McIntosh, Phillips and
Pioneer are considered to produce good quality CD head units.
They all have their problems, but these brands seem to be
common and relatively problem-free.
Bad brands include Kraco, Radio Shack, Rockwood and other
"bargain" brands.
3.21 Can I use my portable CD player in my car? Won't it skip a lot? [JSC]
You can use any portable CD player in a car provided that you
have either an amplifier with line level inputs (preferred) or
a tape deck. If you have the former, you can simply buy a 1/8"
headphone jack to RCA jack adapter and plug your CD player
directly into your amplifier. If you have the latter, you can
purchase a 1/8" headphone jack to cassette adapter and play CDs
through your tape deck. The cassette adapters tend to be far
more convenient; however, there is a significant tradeoff: by
using cassette adapters, you limit your sound to the frequency
response of the tape head, which is sometimes as much as an
entire order of magnitude worse than the raw digital material
encoded onto the CD itself.
Portable CD players which were not designed for automotive use
will tend to skip frequently when used in a car (relatively).
CD players that are specially designed for automotive use, such
as the Sony Car Discman, tend to include extra dampening to
allow the laser to "float" across the bumps and jolts of a
road. Some people have indicated success with using regular
portable CD players in a car when they place the CD player on a
cushion, such as a thick shirt or even on their thighs.
3.22 What's that weird motor noise I get with my portable CD player? [JSC]
Many people report problems while playing CDs from a portable
CD player into their car audio systems. The problem, stated
very simply, has to do with the stepping of the motor requiring
a varying amount of current and non-isolated power and audio
signal grounds. Using a liberal application of capacitors and
inductors, this voltage variance can be restricted to a window
of 8.990 to 9.005V for a 9V CD player, yet even the swing
between these two levels is enough to cause annoyingly loud
noise on the outputs. It has been reported that this entire
problem can be solved by using a true DC-DC inverter at the
power input to the CD player.
3.23 What are some good (and bad) brands of portable CD players?
3.24 What's in store for car audio with respect to MD, DAT and DCC? [HK]
MiniDisc (MD) seems to have a better future than Digital Audio
Tape (DAT) or Digital Compact Cassette (DCC) which don't seem
to have appeal to the public. Ease of use seems to be an
important factor and the CD formats allows direct access to
musical tracks at an instant. Although MD doesn't match the
sound quality of the standard CDs it will probably be popular
since the players have a buffer to eliminate skipping. DAT
will remain as a media for ProAudio for recording purposes
before pressing CDs.
3.25 Are those FM modulator CD changers any good? What are my other
options? [PW,JGr]
Almost all manufacturers offer an FM modulator for their
changers. As with all equipment, some are good and some are not. A
person thinking about using an FM modulator must take into
consideration that the sound quality will only be as good as the
tuner in your head unit. Also, FM is limited in its frequency
response. There is usually a noticable loss of the high
frequencies, due to the nature of transmitting via FM.
If you do not want to use an FM Modulated CD changer, some
manufacturers make controllers for changers that feature
line-level (RCA) outputs. This allows you to connect the
changer directly to an amplifier, bypassing the stock system
altogether. Some models offer line-level inputs, allowing you
to connect the stock system to the changer (so you can continue
to use your radio/tape). Clarion, Sony, and Kenwood make such
units.
3.26 What are some good (and bad) brands of CD changers?
You will find that those companies who make high-quality in-dash
CD players will also make good CD changers. Refer to 3.20 for
a list.
3.27 Why do I need a center channel in my car, and how do I do it? [HK,
JSC]
If a proper center image isn't achievable via a two channel
configuration, installation of a center channel can help.
Since the majority of recordings are done in two channel, a two
channel system designed correctly should be able to reproduce a
center image which was captured during recording. A center
channel is not simply a summation of the left and right
channels, like bridging an amplifier; rather, it is an
extraction of common signals from the left and right channels.
This usually means the lead vocals, and perhaps one or two
instruments. These signals will then be localized to the
center of the stage, instead of perhaps drifting between the
left center and right center of the stage. A signal processor
is usually required in order to properly create a center
channel image. The image should then be sent to a driver in
the physical center of the front of the car, at an
amplification level somewhat lower than the rest of the
speakers. The correct frequency range and power levels will
depend on the particular installation, though a good starting
point is perhaps a pass band of 250-3000Hz at an amplification
level of half the power of the main speakers (3dB down).
3.28 Should I buy a sound field processor? [DK]
Sound field processors (also known as DSPs) are fun toys to play
with, and can have some use, but it is generally good to keep
the KISS principle in mind: Keep It Simple, Stupid.
The fewer signal processors (this includes equalizers, and active
crossovers) that are in your system, the less chance there will
be for noise to enter your system. You'll also save money, have
a lower noise floor. Surround sound processors and bass
regenerators are nothing more than bells and whistles and are
totally superflous in a properly designed system.
3.29 What are some good (and bad) brands of signal processors? [IDB]
If you do decide to buy a signal processor, try to stick with
reputable brands like: AudioControl, Clark, Crystal-Line,
Phoenix Gold, Rane or Clarion. Try to stay away from brands
such as Petras, Urban Audio Works and Kraco.
3.30 How do I build my own passive crossovers? [JSC]
This section assumes that you have a basic understanding of how
to solder, so the actual assembly of the crossover is not
discussed. Rather, tips on choosing the proper types of
capacitors and inductors are given here.
To obtain low insertion losses, the inductors should have very
low resistance, perhaps as low as 0.1 to 0.2 ohms.
Also, be sure to select capacitors with proper voltage
ratings. The maximum voltage in the circuit will be less than
the square root of the product of the maximum power in the
circuit and the nominal impedance of the driver. For example,
a 4 ohm woofer being given 100W peak will see a maximum voltage
of sqrt(100*4) = sqrt(400) = 20V. Make sure that the
capacitors are bipolar, too, since speaker signals are AC
signals. If you cannot find bipolar capacitors, you can use
two polar capacitors in parallel and in opposite polarity (+ to
- and - to +). However, there are some possible problems with
this approach: the forward voltage rating will probably not be
equal to the reverse voltage rating, and there could be a
reverse capacitance as well. Both problems could adversely
affect your circuit if you decide to use opposite polarity
capacitors in parallel.
--
Ian D. Bjorhovde UofA Div. of Neural Systems, Memory & Aging
ianbjor@NSMA.Arizona.EDU UNIX Systems Administrator
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