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Tattoos and "Body Art" FAQ
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Archive-name: bodyart/netiquette
Last-modified: May 26, 1994
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Welcome to rec.arts.bodyart! We're glad you're here! Please take
a moment to read this file, as it will help you (and other r.a.b.
readers) understand the standard etiquette (netiquette) for this
newsgroup. This file is posted twice a month in rec.arts.bodyart, and
once a month in news.answers and rec.answers, usually in the latter
part of the month.
Information provided in this file:
1. What is rec.arts.bodyart?
2. What types of readers do we have on rec.arts.bodyart?
3. How popular is rec.arts.bodyart?
4. Is there a mailing list, archive site or listserv for this
group?
5. Where can I get the FAQs?
6. Netiquette on rec.arts.bodyart
7. How to title your message
8. Acronyms and vocabulary
9. Trimming postings to save on bandwidth
10. Related newsgroups
11. Delurking (or "coming out of the cpu")
12. Posting binary files on r.a.b.
13. Posting anonymously on r.a.b.
14. Minors accessing r.a.b.
14a. A word of caution to minors
14b. Advice for concerned parents
14c. Suggestions for working with disapproving parents
15. Getting advice from r.a.b.
16. Selling things on r.a.b.
17. A brief history of r.a.b.
1. WHAT IS REC.ARTS.BODYART?------------------
Rec.arts.bodyart (r.a.b.) is an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup for
discussing "bodyart." Bodyart here refers to tattoos, body
pierces, brandings (on humans; not on animals) and cuttings,
although other modifications that involve some *permanent* form
of body alteration for decorative purposes also qualify. While
temporary tattoos and standard jewelry may be discussed here,
they would be discussed in the context of permanent bodyart.
Most importantly, r.a.b. offers a community and sense of
belonging for those interested in bodyart. There are many
regulars on r.a.b. who, through their personalities, serve as
jester, shaman, den mother, baby, etc. etc. Most of all, those on
r.a.b. are living, breathing, ALIVE people who love to celebrate
their bodies through decoration. Welcome!
What makes r.a.b. unique, IMHO, is that it allows lay people to
learn and discuss the topic of bodyart. While there are some
readers who are professionals or shop apprentices, this is one of
the very few open forums in the world where bodyart enthusiasts
can speak openly about the subject. There are *NO* commercial
interests or ulterior motives in r.a.b.
If you would like to discuss bodypainting, please post to
alt.sex.fetish.fashion. The exception to this is the discussion
about henna, which stays on your skin for a long time.
It is STRONGLY recommended to read the various FAQs prior to
posting a query. Your question may already be in the FAQ--in
which case you look like a novice just asking it again.Both the
tattoo and piercing FAQs carry a list of (recommended) shops in
different geographical areas. Check to see if your area is
represented.
2. WHAT TYPES OF READERS DO WE HAVE ON REC.ARTS.BODYART?-----
The majority of r.a.b.ers are related to university institutions,
or to computer jobs or companies. This means that most of its
readers do not fall under the standard old-fashioned stereotypes.
There are very few "bikers" or "convicts," for example. Many of
the readers are either in college or have already obtained their
degrees. Many are white-collar professionals, including
librarians (such as myself).
While the r.a.b. reader may not represent the general bodyart
population, it just shows that the old biases against tattooed or
pierced people no longer really hold true. The next time you have
your computer upgraded or check out a book, see if you can see a
tattoo or nipple pierce under the person's starched white shirt.
There are, however, some groups associated with certain types of
bodyart. Some pierces (nose, cartilage) may be common among the
younger "grunge" set. Navel pierces are the height of hip for the
trendies. Cuttings have been popular among lesbians, while body
piercing has been popular with the gay/les/bi population. For
this reason, r.a.b. is *very* GLB-friendly.
It is impossible to determine the average age of our readership.
We do have some minors, while many are in college. However, there
are quite a few readers who are in their 30s and 40s, and older.
Basically, age is a non-issue on r.a.b. The fact that our traffic
decreases significantly in the summers means that we probably
have many students.
As far as I am aware, there is currently no known professional
tattoo artist (read: Works full-time and makes a living
tattooing) who posts to r.a.b. regularly, although many have
email access. We also have some tattoo shop apprentices. Remember
that the purpose of this newsgroup is to provide a forum for the
general public, and not specifically for artists. From what has
filtered to me, many tattoo artists *are* aware of r.a.b.'s
existence (many through the help of r.a.b.bits such as
yourselves).
3. HOW POPULAR IS REC.ARTS.BODYART?----------
The following statistics are according to the news.lists
newsgroup's post: USENET Readership report for Nov 93:
Ranked #609 out of #2547 groups.
Estimated # of people worldwide who read the group: .61,000
Actual # of readers in sampled population:..............783
How many sites receive this group at all:................69%
Recent traffic (messages/month):......................1,038
Recent traffic (kilobytes per month):.................1,686.4
Crossposting percentage:..................................0%
Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr:................................0.03
Share: % of newsrders who read this group:................1.5%
Compared to November 1993 statistics:
-In the past two months our subscription rate has grown by 100 in
the sampled population, an increase of an estimated 10,000!
-We saw an increase in postings of almost 8%.
New feature: A comparison to other related newsgroups:
+-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
| +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
| | +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
| | | +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
| | | | +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
| | | | | +-- Crossposting percentage
| | | | | | +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
| | | | | | | +-- Share: % of newsrders
| | | | | | | | who read this group.
V V V V V V V V
12 230000 2815 64% 2568 6210.3 3% 0.03 5.5% alt.sex.bondage
609 61000 738 69% 1038 1686.4 0% 0.03 1.5% rec.arts.bodyart
1138 42000 512 26% 217 750.2 9% 0.01 1.0% alt.sex.fetish.fashion
4. IS THERE A MAILING LIST, ARCHIVE SITE OR LISTSERV FOR THIS
GROUP?
Aside from the FAQs that are archived (see below), there
currently is no other way to access r.a.b. online. There is no
bodyart listserv. Most news sites expire their articles after a
week or two, although some are even shorter than that.
If your site doesn't allow you access to the rec.* usenets, or
you do not have a full Internet gateway, you will not be able to
participate in the discussions. If this is the case, we suggest
you look into private online companies that provide full 'net
access.
Currently, Delphi (plus some smaller regional services) and
America Online are the only major national services that offer a
full Internet gateway. If you have an account with GEnie,
CompuServ or Prodigy, you can email Internet account holders--but
you still won't be able to participate in r.a.b.
5. WHERE CAN I GET THE FAQS?-------
This "What is r.a.b." netiquette file is posted semi-monthly
(twice a month) on rec.arts.bodyart, rec.answers and
news.answers. The tattoo FAQs and alternative bodyart FAQ are
posted monthly in r.a.b., news.answers and rec.answers. If your
system doesn't retain posts in r.a.b., check in news.answers or
rec.answers. You can retrieve a copy of all 11 FAQs via anonymous
ftp from "rtfm.mit.edu" in their
"pub/usenet/news.answers/bodyart" directory.
The monthly postings now have an expiration date on them that
last a month; we hope your sysops will honor these dates and keep
them in your system for the entire length, until it is replaced
by the next month's posting.
The 11 FAQs of the rec.arts.bodyart that are retrievable, and the
information provided in each:
o What is rec.arts.bodyart?
o 1/9--Introduction
o 2/9--Getting a tattoo
o 3/9--Sanitation
o 4/9--Conventions
o 5/9--Artist list
o 6/9--Care of new tattoos
o 7/9--General care/removal
o 8/9--Misc. info
o 9/9--Bibliography
o Alternative bodyart
6. NETIQUETTE ON REC.ARTS.BODYART-------------
If you are new to usenet newsgroups in general, read
news.newusers.announce for proper net behavior, or "netiquette"
before you consider posting at all. Rec.arts.bodyart is generally
"flame-free" and most "flames" tend to be aimed to specific
people (usually r.a.b. regulars) and are more humorous in nature.
Hate-ridden or ignorant "everyone with tattoos or body pierces
will burn in hell" types of posts should be ignored. NEVER FORGET
THE POWER OF SARCASM AND IRONY. These don't translate well in
this bland world of ascii text--*many* things are said tongue-in-
cheek.
Be prepared to get some nasty email if you:
-Post an empty message because you don't know what you're
doing.
-Post the same message more than once because you don't know
what you're doing.
-Post a message in all caps (because caps are usually reserved
for use with acronyms and for emphasis, when you post with the
CAPS LOCK key on, it looks like you're screaming).
-Post a "classified ad" to pick up other people.
-Post a question that is already answered in the FAQ
(frequently asked questions) files.
-Post private email to somebody over the entire newsgroup.
-Flame someone else on r.a.b. without knowing who the other
person is (e.g., there may be an inside joke you're not
familiar with yet).
-Post something nasty about somebody else who posted on r.a.b.
(when private email would do just fine)
Be prepared to be heavily flamed if you:
-Post a commercial message from an .edu address (this violates
some cardinal Internet rules so this isn't just with r.a.b.).
-Post a commercial message that has very little relevance to
r.a.b.
-Post messages that contain various "isms" (i.e. sexism,
racism, homophobism, religinism, and otherisms.) because of
ignorance, stupidity, or malice. Roasted flamebait tastes the
same regardless of purpose.
There is a lot more useful information available on the usenet
network which is not contained in this FAQ that are available in
the news.announce.newusers newsgroup.
If you have not already done so, you are strongly encouraged to
read these postings before posting any messages. In particular,
the following postings in news.announce.newusers are especially
useful for new users:
A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette
Hints on writing style for Usenet
Rules for posting to Usenet
What is Usenet?
If you cannot find these topics in the newsgroup, you can get
copies of them via email by sending a message to
mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing any or all of:
send usenet/news.answers/usenet-primer/part1
send usenet/news.answers/usenet-faq/part1
send usenet/news.answers/emily-postnews/part1
send usenet/news.answers/usenet-writing-style/part1
send usenet/news.answers/posting-rules/part1
send usenet/news.answers/what-is-usenet/part1
Other good sources of information on the USENET network are the
newsgroups news.newusers.questions (be sure to read its weekly
FAQ before posting a question yourself), and
news.newusers.announce. Also, news.answers contains most of the
FAQ's posted to each newsgroup, including the rec.arts.bodyart
FAQs.
7. HOW TO TITLE YOUR MESSAGE----------------
If you want to post a query (instead of replying to one), try to
be as descriptive as possible in your subject heading. A subject
like "Tattoos" or "Body pierce" don't help readers, since r.a.b.
*is* mostly about tattoos and body pierces. A better heading
might be something like "Need a piercer in Atlanta, Georgia" or
"Infection with eyebrow pierce--help!"
8. ACRONYMS AND VOCABULARY-------------------
People save bandwith by using acronyms for oft-used phrases.
There are some terms you may encounter on r.a.b. that you may not
see in the "real" world.
:) The colon and close-parenthesis characters are used
to show a smile (tilt your head to the left and read
sideways. Other smileys include ;) :-) 8-)
BH: Butt-Head or Better Half
BTW: By the way
FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions. Most newsgroups have FAQ
files to help lessen the amount of traffic.
FWIW: For What It's Worth
FYI: For Your Information
ga: Short for "gauge", measurement of the thickness of
jewelry.
IDTS: I Don't Think So
IMHO: In my humble opinion
IMNSHO: In My Not So Humble Opinion
JTYLTK: Just thought you'd like to know
JTYMLTK: Just thought you might like to know
MOTOS: Members of the opposite sex, as in soc.motos
MOTSS: Members of the same sex, as in soc.motss
Ob: Short for "obligatory." A person who posts something
remotely related to a newsgroup topic may add "Ob..."
at the end of their post so they put in an obligatory
word about the pertinent subject.
OTF: On The Floor
OTFL: On The Floor Laughing
OTOH: On the one hand; or, on the other hand.
PA: Prince Albert. A pierce through the urethra of a penis.
For more info on PAs, please refer to the body piercing
FAQ. There are many terms specifically regarding body
pierces but this one seems to come up most often.
ROTFL: Rolling On The Floor Laughing
RTFFAQ: Read the *friendly* FAQ.
SO: Significant Other
SSS: Stainless surgical steel. One of the more inert metals
used for body pierce jewelry.
TAFN: That's All For Now
TTFN: Ta-Ta For Now
TTYL: Talk To You Later
YMMV: Your mileage may vary.
Celtic: A style of tattooing that incorporates the delicate
knotwork designs of the Celts (pronounced with a hard
"K" and not a soft "S" as in the basketball team).
Flash: Tattoo designs that you find stapled to the walls of
tattoo studios. The opposite of this would be a custom
design you bring in on your own.
Gun: Either a tattoo gun (modern tattooing machine) or
piercing gun. In r.a.b., tatoo guns are good, piercing
guns are B-A-D and are used only for earlobes.
Lurk: Lurking. Reader of r.a.b. who doesn't post. The act of
"delurking" involves a reader who posts for the first
time, or once in a great while.
Niobium: A type of metal that is "electrified" to produce any
number/combination of rainbow hues. Also an inert metal
used for body pierce jewelry.
Septum: The tissue between your nostrils. Site of a pierce.
Squick: Verb: To gross out, feel revulsion. Example:
"She got real squicked ooking at the circus freaks
(i.e., "human pin cushion").
Tat: Short for "tattoo"
Tragus: The knob in the front of your ear. Site of pierces.
Tribal: A style of tattooing that is sometimes confused with
Celtic. Sometimes called "blackwork," involves
geometric primitive designs.
9. TRIMMING POSTINGS TO SAVE ON BANDWIDTH------
Some people pay for their online time. If you are posting a
response to another person's posting, try to trim down their
quote. This gets worse as people quote upon other people's
quotes, and so on and so forth, until the quotes alone fill up a
few screens. The reader can go back and read the original posting
if s/he wants to. Posting a response to someone else's long
posting, with just a short "I agree entirely!" is a waste of
bandwidth. Refrain from posting something like this unless you
have something more to contribute to the discussion. But if you
MUST, then at least delete the bulk of the quote. Try to indicate
that you are omitting parts of the post by using the mark of
ellipses, etc. (i.e. [...], [extraneous stuff deleted], [snip
snip]).
Please delete other people's signatures. And keep yours to around
four lines or less; this is standard netiquette.
10. RELATED NEWSGROUPS-------------------------
alt.sex.bondage: The 12th highest rate of readers of ALL groups.
alt.sex.fetish.fashion: Discusses topics including latex, rubber,
high heels and corsets. Also a discussion site for temporary body
painting.
soc.bi, alt.sex.motss, and other gender orientation groups.
As a result of these related newsgroups, we get some occasional
cross-postings. If you are posting a response to such a cross-
posted message, please make sure to delete cross-posted
newsgroups should the discussion move to a more specific topic
belonging in one group.
When posting about an inquiry specific to a geographical area,
please be aware of your distribution setting. The default for
many sites is "world." If you want to know about a good artist in
Arkansas, for example, at least limit your post to "usa."
11. DELURKING (OR "COMING OUT OF THE CPU")-----
As the statistics indicate, there are apparently tens of
thousands of readers of r.a.b. (and at least several hundred that
were actually identified as subscribers). With only an average of
30 posts per day (many by the same people), the number of
"lurkers" who read but don't post, is very high. If you are
"delurking," you can either announce that you are (in which you
might get some sort of unofficial welcome from a regular), or
simply post a message. You don't have to be pierced, inked or
otherwise poked to participate in r.a.b.
If you wish to congratulate a delurker, *please* delete the
majority of their file and trim down their quote.
12. POSTING BINARY FILES ON R.A.B.-------------
*Do not post binary files in r.a.b.* This newsgroup is not set up
for these large and unwieldy files, and could force a shut-down
by the net authorities for abusing the system. If you would like
to share graphics, please post the announcement on r.a.b. and
either email directly, or have them available at an archive site.
There is currently no archive site set specifically for r.a.b.
Another rather bothersome concern with the distribution of
bodyart gifs is that many of them contain explicit bodyparts.
While the *purpose* of these gifs are not prurient or sexual,
people DO worry about access by "perverts" or of posting gifs of
nude minors (a BIG FAT no-no--can we say "child pornography"?)
13. POSTING ANONYMOUSLY ON R.A.B.--------------
Some people post anonymously to r.a.b. We would like to
discourage the use of anonymous IDs, as we do not consider
bodyart to be shameful or embarrassing. However, if you feel that
the integrity of your personal or professional life would be in
jeopardy should your participation in r.a.b. become known, then
by all means remain anonymous. If you choose to post anonymously,
you will be treated with respect if you are sincere. Those who
abuse their anon IDs by posting undesired messages are not
welcome on r.a.b.
14. MINORS ACCESSING R.A.B. ----------
While rec.arts.bodyart is not in the alt.sex.* hierarchy, there
is a need to address this because of the subjects discussed here.
First, note that in most areas (at least in the US), professional
tattoo artists and body piercers will not allow serve minors.
However, because there is no national law regarding this, each
area has its own regulations. I've tried to add information about
this, but it is still your responsibility to check the laws of
your area.
In addition, because of the subjects covered in r.a.b., we often
discuss specific body parts *explicitly* (the majority of body
pierces are done on the nipples or on the genitalia [of males and
females]).
The fact that we cannot control who reads r.a.b. makes it
impossible to monitor which of our readers are minors who aren't
yet of legal age in their community. In fact, we can't even tell
who the minors are unless they announce this to the newsgroup.
Since teenagers will often do what they want to do, regardless of
what they are told, the general concensus on r.a.b. is that it is
far better to help minors make an *informed* decision about what
to do about their bodies (preferably after they turn 18), rather
than deny information to them.
14A. A WORD OF CAUTION TO MINORS -------------
Unmoderated Internet usenets are completely open. We cannot
control who participates. Just as you can participate in r.a.b.,
so can opportunistic adults who prey on minors. Although the
numbers are very small, adult pedophiles and child molestors may
be lurking in newsgroups waiting to develop budding friendships
with you. Use some common sense in protecting yourself.
-Do not give away your home phone number or home address.
-Do not give people personal information that will help
them track you down.
-If the person wants to have a get-together with you, meet in a
public place and do not go alone (The actual advice is "Go
with your parent," but that's unrealistic for many).
14B. ADVICE FOR CONCERNED PARENTS --------------
If you are a parent, please not be alarmed that your child reads
r.a.b.; it is a good arena in which your child can obtain some
factual information about a subject not readily available. If you
do not want your child to have access to r.a.b., please discuss
this with your child's account system administrator. We cannot
take responsibility for your child's actions.
Please read 14a above about some of the dangers of going online.
14C. SUGGESTIONS FOR WORKING WITH DISAPPROVING PARENTS ----
If you are a minor interested in getting bodyart, and are living
at home with your parents (or guardians), the general advice you
will get from regulars on r.a.b. is as follows:
--If your parents are open to the idea, have them take you to a
good professional person to do the work.
--If your parents are uncooperative due to lack of information,
provide them with some articles currently available in the
mainstream media. Remember--if your parents weren't hippies in
the '60s or they are somewhat sheltered from today's youth and
alternative culture, the idea of contemporary tattoos or body
pierces is a very frightening thought. Just remember that until
about 15 years ago, the concept of men piercing their ears or
women getting two sets of pierces in their earlobes was
considered radical.
--If your parents are against your getting bodyart because they
think you are going to suffer permanently from a passing fad,
come up with a compromise with them. Make sure you pay for it
with your own hard-earned money (not allowance), and wait a while
(six months). While this may seem like an eternity, it may also
be long enough to convince your parents that this is a serious
desire on your part.
--If your parents are dead-set against it, and counter you with
threats (kicking you out of the house, losing financial support
for school/college, being disowned, etc.), then the best thing to
do is to wait until you are at least 18 and out of the house.
Your parents either think you're too young, or consider bodyart
so horrible, that doing it anyway (behind their back) will only
cause more (and serious) problems in your family relationship.
From those with personal experience on r.a.b., the advice is--
"it's not worth the grief--just wait a couple more years."
15. GETTING ADVICE FROM R.A.B.-------------
While r.a.b. offers a forum for discussion, many of the posts are
originated by people who have specific questions. Most on r.a.b.
are not professional tattooists or piercers; their advice usually
comes from personal experience or shared information. If you have
a serious medical concern, you may want to see a medical
professional. The advantage to posting on r.a.b. regarding a
medical inquiry is that there are many here who have already gone
through the same problem, and may be able to suggest a bodyart-
friendly doctor in your area. Don't forget that professional,
experienced tattooists and piercers are also good sources for
queries regarding infections.
If you need to do a school paper on bodyart, your most important
step is to go to the various libraries in your community. I have
done numerous bibliographic searches on tattoos and body pierces,
and have retrieved so many citations from recent media articles
that I can't even list them in the resources FAQ anymore (they
number in the thousands). Basic questions about the history of
tattooing, etc. should be done on your own at the library. Start
with the major encyclopedias.
16. ADVERTISING ON R.A.B.-----------
This is a rather touchy subject. Some things to note:
A. If you have an .edu address, forget it. Don't try to
run a business on r.a.b. You get your access privileges
from an educational institution and you aren't supposed
to be making money from your .edu account. Exceptions
include if you want to get rid of something bodyart-related
like your old magazines, or you want to announce a special
art gallery exhibit on bodyart, etc.
B. People don't mind if you post promos from a .com address, but
it must be specific to bodyart. With over 6,000 newsgroups,
there *will* be a more appropriate one to post to if yours is
not bodyart specific. Do *NOT* advertise frequently.
Buyer beware--We are not responsible for the legitimacy of any ad
posted on r.a.b.
17. A BRIEF HISTORY OF R.A.B.
[To conserving space, I have hacked Chris' original post,
entitled "Reflections,"--and by doing so, have taken out much of
the emotional impact it had on me initially.]
"Reflections," from Chris Wayne (cwayne@unm.edu):
RAB is now over three years old--I never thought it would last
this long. In 1990, I got on a primitives mail-list, which a gay
friend pointed me toward. I wondered why most on the list seemed
to be gay (I am straight and a Christian). I wasn't really sure
what "Modern Primitives" was. While I noticed the ritualistic
aspects, my interests lay more in the actual art of tattooing
(not yet piercing). I do have an open mind and being a tattoo
enthusiast, I guess my friend thought I'd fit in.
I was curious why the GLBs should have all the fun. Why was there
no primitives newsgroup? Karl [MacRae] said there wasn't one
because it would probably open people up to unwanted attacks and
stupidity--but I thought I'd give it a try.
Karl gave me his blessings. In November I called an RFD [Request
For Discussion] (now a CFD [Call For Discussion]) on creating a
new group. What came of the few responses was a name
(rec.arts.bodyart). I wanted it to be apart from the primitives
mail list, which included all the different permutations--with
focus on the actual art and not necessarily the ritual, and
general enough to have a wide appeal still fit into the
philosophy of Modern Primitivism. I was looking for acceptance
and education, to teach people that it's OK to accept those that
are different, and that tattooing is not disgusting. The CFV
produced a close vote, but in March 1991, RAB was created.
At first, those on the prims list were cautious for fear of
getting dumped on--but there hasn't been any of this bashing on
r.a.b. Here's an open forum that doesn't care what your color or
orientation is, or even if you're not tattooed and can share in a
common passion on neutral ground and have no fear of being
bashed. I wanted someplace to hear about all aspects of tattooing
without having to worry about someone harassing the people. I
think that this group is a beacon to the rest of the Internet,
showing that there's nothing sinister or evil in tattooing and
that criminals, queers and bikers aren't the only ones that get
tattoos. Being tattooed does not make the person; getting
tattooed reflects who the person is--good or bad.
Karl, Jeff, Lance, Ray & Barb and many others no longer here,
migrated over from the prims list and became the local experts.
They were willing and capable of answering any question. Mostly,
only those that had tattoos would post questions, but eventually
as word of this group spread, those that were just curious were
reading and posting questions. Interest grew. "Where can I get
tattooed?" "Where can I get pierced?" "What should I look for?"
"How much will it cost?" And of course "Does it hurt?" The
Internet was being introduced to Modern Primitives and being
educated that tattooing is not a fad or trend, but a commitment
(a conscious decision) for life, the courage to be different--to
stand out. Then came Lani and Ardvark and their FAQs, which are
posted (or soon to be) on other important, mainstream groups.
These FAQs even help some people along the three steps of
acceptance in getting a tattoo :-)
1) I never want one!
2) It looks good on someone else, but I still don't want one.
3) I want one!
There isn't a session that goes by that I don't see someone
asking about getting their first tattoo or where the nearest shop
is, what questions to ask and what to look for. There are also
RAB socials, get togethers at conventions, and even a wedding
invitation! There are discussions on why we get tattooed and how
a tattooed person is perceived by the public.
People are now getting tattooed because they're getting more
familiar with this art form, and the fear of an unknown is
removed. Their inhibitions and preconceptions are being changed.
People are understanding what it means to be tattooed. I guess
there are still those that think that getting a tattoo is a fad
or kewl (cool), but that's their problem. If everybody is getting
tattooed--that's not the reason to get tattooed. Everybody eats
and makes love, but that's not the reason we do it. I don't think
anybody would call sex a fad--I believe that getting tattooed
fills a basic need.
If you're a lurker out there that still aren't sure about taking
the 'plunge,' just do it. If you've repressed the urge for years,
just let go. Plan for it first, but do it. It is an experience
not soon forgotten. Probably the best thing to do is to get one
that can easily be covered up, so that you can get use to the
idea of having a tattoo and you can show it off whenever you
want. Then you can decide how to go from there. Many people will
suggest going 'large & bold', but remember, you're the one that
makes the final say. It's a decision that you will be living with
for the rest of your life, hopefully, it won't be the only such
decision you make for the rest of your life.
Unlike most groups that are for just discussion, RAB is also a
support group with a sense of community. Truly, one can find
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations in this group.
Welcome to the wonderful world of rec.arts.bodyart.
"Poke around and think ink!"
--==*-<*>-*==--
This ends the "What is rec.arts.bodyart?" file.
--
Lani Teshima-Miller (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu) "Sea Hare" o/ /_/_/
UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our
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libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant \=^-| |_| |
nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]
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Area # 2120 news.answers 05-26-94 19:10 Message # 13098
From : Lani Teshima-Miller
To : ALL
Subj : rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo
ÿ@FROM :TESHIMA@UHUNIX3.UHCC.HAWAII.EDU
ÿ@SUBJECT:rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 1/9--Introduction
ÿ@PACKOUT:05-27-94
Message-ID: <CqFn22.B3F@news.Hawaii.Edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart,news.answers,rec.answers
Organization: University of Hawaii
Archive-name: bodyart/tattoo-faq/part1
Last-modified: May 26, 1994
Posting-frequency: Monthly
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This is Part 1 of the rec.arts.bodyart non-piercing FAQ file that
is posted on a monthly basis (in the latter half of the month)
and includes information about everything but piercing that might
concern bodyart. If you would like to know what rec.arts.bodyart
is as a newsgroup, read the separate posting entitled: "What is
rec.arts.bodyart?", posted twice a month.
The rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ is broken up into 9 parts:
1/9--Introduction <---YOU ARE READING THIS FILE
2/9--Getting a tattoo
3/9--Sanitation
4/9--Conventions
5/9--Artist list
6/9--Care of new tattoos
7/9--General care/removal
8/9--Misc. info
9/9--Bibliography
There is also a short, separate FAQ on alternative bodyart, which
includes brandings and cuttings.
PURPOSE OF THIS FAQ:
This FAQ serves to disseminate information on the most frequently
asked questions about the basics of tattoos and tattooing. If you
are interested in learning more about the rec.arts.bodyart
newsgroup itself, read the "What is rec.arts.bodyart" file that I
post twice a month.
While bodyart has been around for thousands of years, it is
currently experiencing an almost unprecedented popularity in the
US and in Europe. However, the general population of developed
countries still regard it with some disdain, especially against
those who have *ALOT* of any type bodyart. The purpose of this
FAQ is *not* to raise these issues or to change such views, but
to educate those who are interested in learning more about
tattoos. Regardless of motive, tattooing is a very personal
choice. Information in this FAQ should help you make a wiser
decision about getting inked, since the reversing process is not
easy.
I have tried to include the contributor's name and email address
where possible, both for accountability reasons and for obtaining
further information. Contributions, while welcome, may not always
be added depending on whether they fit into the purpose of this
FAQ.
Copyright and dissemination:
You may freely copy and disseminate the entire set of FAQs
through the following electronic means: diskettes and email, as
well as sites that automatically mirror the ftp'able rtfm.mit.edu
news.answers FAQ archive. You may also copy and disseminate the
various parts of the FAQ electronically under the same
conditions. If you must break up the sections, break them up in
the format already separated for you. Do not create your own
sections. Do not add your own information in the FAQ. However,
any partial distribution must include this section on copyright
and dissemination.
However, you *MUST* obtain prior permission from me before you
make the FAQs available commercially, even if it is for the
minimal fee of covering your medium. but *must* include this
introductory section.
You need not obtain special permission to quote parts of this FAQ
for academic research purposes (although you must cite this FAQ).
If you are not sure how to cite electronic information, a must-
have is _Electronic Style: A Guide to Citing Electronic
Information_ by Xia Li and Nancy B. Crane (Westport, 1993). It
will tell you how to properly cite FAQs, posts, private email as
well as FTPs, etc.
*IF YOU ARE A MEDIA REPORTER OR JOURNALIST, you are explicitly
requested to email me prior to using material in, or quoting from
this FAQ.*
I will gladly accept submissions from artists interested in
discussing technique, style, or the reasons they got into the
field.
This FAQ was originally compiled by Paul Davies (Synthetic Man)
at pdavies@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca, with contributions from
various people. The rights and responsibilities to maintain this
FAQ was passed on to me in Summer 1993, and has since grown in
size by at least 300%.
If you would like to offer suggestions, ideas or submissions,
please email me at teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu. If I decide to
use the information you provide, I will mail you a special r.a.b.
Tattoo FAQ Contributor's bookmark! (what else do ya expect from a
librarian?)
If I have *any* advice for those who decide to get inked, it is:
To shop around, to ask a lot of questions, to not fret about the
cost too much, to always ask to look at the artists' sample
photos, and to get something that's custom, significant and
meaningful. That thing's gonna be with you for a looong time. Oh-
-and "Think Ink!"
Table of contents:
The 9 parts of the Tattoo FAQ files of rec.arts.bodyart, and the
information provided in each:
1/9--Introduction
2/9--Getting a tattoo
1. Does it hurt?
2. Should I get one at all?
2.1. *WHY* do I want one?
2.2. Religious (Christian) arguments
2.3. A temporary alternative?
3. Where do I find a good artist, and what should I look for
in a tattoo artist?
3.1. How to look around in the shop
3.2. Asking to see their portfolio
3.3. What to look for in their portfolio
3.4. What kinds of questions to ask
3.5. What sorts of things to look for in a shop
4. How much does it cost to get a tattoo?
3/9--Sanitation
1. Can I get infectious diseases from tattoo needles?
2. What to look for in a sanitary shop environment.
3. Can I get AIDS from tattooing?
4. Can my tattoos get infected?
4.1. How to look for sterilization
5. Are there any medical conditions that will preclude me from
getting a tattoo?
6. What is the Alliance of Professional Tattooists?
4/9--Conventions
1. Tattoo Conventions: What are they all about?
2. What types of conventions are available?
3. Why would I want to attend?
4. What's the format?
5. What's the atmosphere?
6. What kind of tattoo contests are there?
7. Can I actually get a tattoo at a convention?
8. What else can I find at these conventions?
9. When and where are upcoming conventions?
5/9--Artist list
1. Who is a good/bad tattoo artist near me?
1.1 US West Coast: Washington, California
1.2 US Southwest: Arizona
1.3 US Midwest: Ohio, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan,
Illinois
1.4 US Southeast: Louisiana, Florida
1.5 US East Coast: Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode
Island
1.6 Pacific: Hawaii (US)
1.7 Canada: British Columbia, London
1.8 EUROPE/UK: London
1.9 EUROPE/POLAND
2. Where on my body should I get a tattoo?
6/9--Care of new tattoos
1. Is using a sauna or steamroom bad for tattoos?
2. Is sunlight bad for tattoos?
3. How do I care for my new tattoo?
3.1 Suggested Method #1: The Minimal Moisturizer Method
3.2 Suggested Method #2: The Pat-with-Listerine Method
3.3 Suggested Method #3: The Wait-24-Hours-to-Take-Off-
Dressing Method
3.4 Suggested Method #4: The Coconut-Oil-Itch-Relief Method
3.5 Suggested Method #5: The Huck Spalding Method
3.6 Suggested Method #6: The Noxzema Method (NEW)
7/9--General care/removal
1. How does weight gain/loss affect a tattoo?
2. How does lifting weights affect a tattoo?
3. Can a tattoo be removed?
3.1. Get it reworked--cover-up
3.2. Get it reworked--touch-up
3.3. Get it removed--Tissue Expansion
3.4. Get it removed--Sal Abration
3.5. Get it removed--Staged Excision
3.6. Get it removed--medical lasers
8/9--Misc. info
1. Are there glow-in-the-dark tattoos?
2. Where can I get a Japanese "irezumi" tattoo?
3. When did tattooing start?
4. How does a modern tattoo gun work?
5. How long do I have to wait before I can donate blood?
6. Tattoos and allergies
7. How do I become a tattoo artist?
9/9--Bibliography
1. Are there references about tattoos I could look up?
2. Tattoos in movies and videos
3. Newspaper articles about tattoos/bodyart
4. Magazine and journal articles about tattoos/bodyart
5. Books about tattoos/bodyart (reviews where available)
6. Tattoo organizations
7. Resource material for custom tattoo design ideas
8. Current tattoo magazines in print
The one-part Alternative Bodyart FAQ has the following:
1. What is branding and how is it done?
2. What is scarring?
3. What are cuttings?
WHAT TO EXPECT IN UPCOMING REVISIONS:
--List of artists (ongoing)
--What kind of different "styles" are there?
--What kind of colors are available? What are the inks made of?
What is it about red ink that causes allergic reactions in
some?
--Where can I get good ideas for designs? Part of a
bibliography.
--How is "traditional" tattooing done--without the tattoo gun?
--What is the history behind Japanese tattoos? How is it done?
--What Polynesian islands were into tattooing?
--What tat magazines can I look at for examples of artists'
works?
--Where can I access GIF files of tats?
--Are there any tattoo museums I could visit?
--==*-<*>-*==--
This ends "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 1/9--Introduction." This
should be followed by "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 2/9--Getting
a tattoo."
--
Lani Teshima-Miller (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu) "Sea Hare" o/ /_/_/
UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our
o|<0_0>------*
libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant \=^-| |_| |
nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]
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Area # 2120 news.answers 05-26-94 19:11 Message # 13099
From : Lani Teshima-Miller
To : ALL
Subj : rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo
ÿ@FROM :TESHIMA@UHUNIX3.UHCC.HAWAII.EDU
ÿ@SUBJECT:rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 2/9--Getting a tattoo
ÿ@PACKOUT:05-27-94
Message-ID: <CqFn3B.B4A@news.Hawaii.Edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart,news.answers,rec.answers
Organization: University of Hawaii
Archive-name: bodyart/tattoo-faq/part2
Last-modified: May 26, 1994
Posting-frequency: Monthly
--==*-< >-*==--
The rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ is broken up into 9 parts:
1/9--Introduction
2/9--Getting a tattoo <---YOU ARE READING THIS FILE
3/9--Sanitation
4/9--Conventions
5/9--Artist list
6/9--Care of new tattoos
7/9--General care/removal
8/9--Misc. info
9/9--Bibliography
WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS:
This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of
questions and answers. Questions answered in this file:
Rec.arts.bodyart FAQ Part 2/9: Getting a tattoo
1. Does it hurt?
2. Should I get one at all?
2.1. *WHY* do I want one?
3. Where do I find a good artist, and what should I look for
in a tattoo artist?
3.1. How to look around in the shop
3.2. Asking to see their portfolio
3.3. What to look for in their portfolio
3.4. What kinds of questions to ask
3.5. What sorts of things to look for in a shop
4. How much does it cost to get a tattoo?
5. How should I act once I get in that chair?
GETTING A TATTOO
1. DOES IT HURT? ----------
This is the first question in this FAQ because it's usually the
first question that people ask. The answer is yes. Having needles
pierce your skin *does* hurt. But what you *really* want to know
is, "How MUCH does it hurt, and can I handle it?"
It's not nearly as bad as what you might imagine. The pain comes
from the cluster of needles on the tattoo gun piercing your skin
very rapidly. This sensation, however, doesn't feel like the
poking pain of an injection--it's more of a constant vibration.
You will be amazed at how quickly your body releases endorphins,
(pain killers), which dullens the pain significantly.
The pain will also vary according to where on your body you get
worked on. Skin right above bones (collarbone, anklebone, etc.)
tend to be more painful than other areas.
Finally, you are volunteering for the experience. The amount of
pain will depend on your psychological attitude.
NOTE: Do not drink alcohol or take illegal drugs for pain relief
purposes prior to your tattoo sessions. Both aspirin and alcohol
thin your blood and promote excessive bleeding. In addition,
artists do not appreciate dealing with drunks.
2. SHOULD I GET A TATTOO IN THE FIRST PLACE? ----------
Your reading this may mean you're already interested in getting a
tattoo, or may know someone who is. In a survey of 163 tattooed
men and women, a third of them had regretted their tattoos! While
most of this FAQ discusses the process once you've decided to get
one, let's pause for a moment.
2.1. *WHY* DO I WANT ONE? ----------
People get tattoos for different reasons. Is it to please your
partner? Is it because you want to belong to a group that has
tattoos? Do you identify with a certain subculture known for
tattoos? Do you want to show your independence, individuality or
uniqueness?
These are all valid reasons, and are the reasons many people get
tattooed. However, because of the permanency of your tattoo, try
to look at yourself in five, 10, or even 20 years. What will you
be doing at that time? You might be a free-spirited college
student now, and a web of vines on your wrist would look really
lovely. However, are you planning to work in a very conservative
field after you graduate? Will others look at your tattoo in a
bad way? Will you have to hide it with long sleeve shirts? Are
you *willing* to wear long sleeve shirts if the environment is
negative?
Do you want a tattoo of a tiger because your partner's nickname
is "Tiger," and you love the way s/he scratches your skin? Do you
think you'll be with this person in five years? If not, how will
you look at that tattoo? With fond memories, symbolizing a
special period in your life? Or a shameful or painful reminder of
somebody who hurt you and didn't care for you?
You're a headbanger (or a nose-smasher, ear-bopper or whatever)
and you *REALLY* want a tattoo all over your arms just like Axl
Rose, but you can't afford a professional artist so you get your
friend with the mail-order tattoo gun to do those designs for
you? Or perhaps you get spider webs tattooed all over your hands
(or your face, which has happened) because you want to be
"different" in school. What if you decide to "straighten out" and
get a real job; train as a chef or something, and then no
restaurant hires you?
*GETTING IT REMOVED* is *NOT* easy, and is *NOT* cheap. Expect to
pay $1,000 to remove even a fairly small sized tattoo if you're
looking at laser surgery. Expect to have a noticeable ugly scar
if you go with a non-laser technique. Expect to pay for every
penny out of your own pocket because health insurance companies
will not pay for tattoo removal. There may not be a laser surgery
specialist in your area. Then think of all those laser-surgery
doctors who are going to get rich off of a person's foolishness
or lack of careful thinking.
...Maybe tattooing isn't for you.
...Maybe you shouldn't get that $10 tattoo your friend's been
telling you he'll give you, in his garage.
...Maybe you shouldn't let your buddies tattoo your hand with
India Ink and a needle at this weekend's party.
...Maybe you should get a tattoo on your back instead of on your
neck.
...Maybe you should get a tattoo on your left wrist so it can be
covered by your watch if you have to...
...And maybe after reading this FAQ and reading r.a.b., you'll
think carefully about it, and make some informed, wise decisions
about what to do with your body.
*Tattooing can be beautiful.*
*Tattooing can be exhilarating.*
*Tattooing can open a whole new world for you.*
...but make sure to do it *right*.
2.2. RELIGIOUS (CHRISTIAN) ARGUMENTS
Written by: Chris Wayne (cwayne@unm.edu), originator of
r.a.b. and a self-professed Christian.
A word to the religious: In Leviticus 19:28, it says not to
tattoo "I am the Lord" on you (i.e. don't take the name of the
Lord in vain). It does NOT say you can't mark yourself at all,
and it does NOT say there's anything wrong about piercing. What
it DOES say is that it prohibits mutilating yourself for the
dead, which was a senseless practice at that time. But for
Christians, they are no longer bound by the Law. Remember that
it's not what you do; it's what's in your heart when you do it.
The Talmud even mentions that it's not the tattooing that is
wrong, but what the tattoo is of (i.e. if the tattoo is an image
of a 'false god' as opposed to just a 'design').
There are probably many 'prim & proper' Christians out there that
have had the urge to be tattooed, but have repressed it because
they believed it was a sin. Well, if you really believe that it
is a sin, then it is. But is getting tattooed really a sin? If it
draws you away from Christ or causes someone else to stumble,
then yes. But tattooing isn't any more special than anything else
we distract ourselves with.
Take things in moderation at your speed. We are to deny ourselves
of things if they cause us to lose sight of Jesus (for some, it
could be driving a car, getting married, having children, going
to work, smoking, abusing drugs & alcohol, disrespect, etc.). If
you have good discernment, you know what distracts you from
Christ and what doesn't.
Tattooing isn't inherently evil; it got it's 'evil' status
because GOD-less heathens from places like the South Pacific were
tattooed. Do what pleases GOD; and one thing that pleases GOD is
to be confident in oneself (not overly prideful, but confidence
tempered with discernment, almost bordering on arrogance).
Tattooing can bring out that confidence, because to be tattooed
requires commitment. And that's a conquering power over fear and
old ruts. GOD wants mature dynamic individuals that fear him to
fellowship with, not people cowering in fear from some rigid set
of laws. Note: fear of GOD is totally different from cowering in
fear.
Some Christians will claim that drinking any amount of alcohol is
sinful, but the medical community is saying that 2-3 drinks a day
is good for the heart. Drink responsibly. So, for those that have
repressed getting a tattoo because of family or religious
upbringing, just do it. If it's not for you, fine--but don't ruin
it for the others.
Tattooing in no way marks who's saved and who's not. If you've
seen the trilogy "A Distant Thunder," the Mark of the Beast was
tattooed on your right hand or forehead. The tattoo was 666 in
binary '6's (i.e. 1 0 11 0 11 0 1 Sort of like a UPC code), but
this doesn't mean that every tattoo is a Mark of the Beast.
People have stated that the credit card and the computer were
tools of the Devil. So what? Everybody depends on both today,
even if the Anti-Christ is to use the computer to control the
population, it doesn't mean that if you use a computer, you're a
follower of the Devil.
I believe that religion, when improperly used, is a dangerous
thing. Christianity has wasted a lot of valuable time trying to
influence people in believing that unimportant things are evil
instead of spreading the word of GOD. Christianity (or those
prideful, arrogant, self righteous leaders) has looked down on
tattooing far too long.
2.3. A TEMPORARY ALTERNATIVE?
For those who might not be ready for the plunge, but are
seriously considering what it would look/feel like to have a
tattoo, Julian (an54349@anon.penet.fi) recommends a particular
type of temporary tattoo that uses very light Japanese rice
paper. He says these are of very high quality, and last about two
weeks WITH CARE. I have had the phone number confirmed recently
so they are still in business. Note: This will the only time I'll
discuss *temporary* tattoos. :)
Don Ling's Removable Tattoos & Fantoos
P O Box 309 Butterfield, MN 56120
or
102 2nd ST. South Butterfield, MN 56120
(507) 956-2024
3. WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD ARTIST, AND WHAT SHOULD I LOOK
FOR IN A TATTOO ARTIST? ----------
The bane of the tattoo world is the shadowy, unprofessional
person called the "scratcher." A scratcher is somebody who:
--Does not have the proper training in either tattoo art or of
running a professional operation;
--Does not know and/or care to use responsible sterilization
methods;
--Promises to provide tattooing services for an incredibly low
fee, for free, or in exchange for drugs (ack!);
--Chooses not to apprentice through a legitimate tattoo shop
because of one excuse or another (but lacks the knowledge one
needs to work in or run a professional shop);
--Will hurt you because they don't know what they're doing;
--Will give you a permanent tattoo you will regret for the
rest of your life;
--You should stay away with a ten-foot pole.
Never, never, never get work from a scratcher unless you are
willing to accept all the hazards listed above.
Of those in a study by Clinton Sanders who regretted their
tattoos, more than two-thirds of them regretted their tattoo
because of poor quality!
Looking for an artist can be as easy as checking the Yellow
Pages, or as complex as checking references, magazine photos, and
reading r.a.b. There are a number of ways to find good artists,
including (but certainly not limited to):
--Perusing tattoo magazines. While not all tattoo magazines are
of the National Geographic quality, the photos will speak for
themselves. Some issues highlight specific artists' works; a good
way see the type of work someone does. Use the photos in the
magazines to compare with those of the artist you are interested
in. These magazines have done a lot to show what is *possible*.
Some things to look for in magazines:
-Style (realistic, black & grey work, tribal, etc.)
-Placement on your body
-Ideas for images
-Size in proportion to your body
-Artists whose work you like.
--Reading r.a.b. and this FAQ. It'll give you a base in which to
start. If you live in an area where an artist is not listed in
the FAQ, you might want to post a query. If you saw an artist
whose work you liked in a magazine, see if they're listed in the
FAQ. If not, post a query. Remember--the artist list FAQ is
limited because we only take first-hand recommendations from
people who read r.a.b. There are many artists who are excellent,
who have not worked on r.a.b. participants.
--Attending a tattoo convention. Read the FAQ section on tattoo
conventions for more information.
You can approach this one of two ways. You can either go to a
shop because someone recommended the artist to you, or you can go
in cold. For obvious reasons, you will have a little more
information with you if you already know something about the
artist. This may make you feel more at ease when going into a
shop for the first time.
Many of the top-notch artists recommended in this FAQ are very
busy and work on an appointment-only basis. Visit their shop
anyway--you will still learn about them even if it doesn't mean
getting work done right then and there.
Bodyart enthusiast Dr. Kai Kristensen (tattoodoc@aol.com), who is
a pathologist and a recently retired lab director of an
internationally prestigious medical center in La Jolla
(California), says the most important aspects of a good result
are to:
A. Choose an experienced, knowledgeable performer who knows about
sterilization and avoidance of infection.
B. Avoid infection during the healing process.
With both of those bases covered, healing of either should be
non-eventful and the desired appearance should be guaranteed.
3.1. HOW TO LOOK AROUND IN THE SHOP-------------
Don't let the shop intimidate you when you first walk in. You are
after all, a potential customer. Consider it window shopping.
The first thing you should do when you enter the shop, is to take
a minute to look around. Chances are, you will encounter some
flash (stock illustrations) stapled on the walls. These will most
likely lean toward the traditional. Skull and crossbones, roses
and the like.
You might also see some signs ("No minors; we ID," "We have
sanitary conditions" etc.). These signs will also be indicators
of the personality of the shop owner. If the signs seem overly
intimidating, patronizing or snobbish, they can be tip-offs of
the shop's attitude.
Note: There is no national law regarding the legal age for
tattooing. Check with the shop to find out what the local statute
regulates.
3.2. ASKING TO SEE THEIR PORTFOLIO--------------
Do not be impressed by the flash on the wall. These illustrations
are usually purchased from other places and do not represent the
work of your artist. Frankly, anyone with some experience can
easily trace the outlines of these illustrations and fill in the
colors. What you really need to look at is a book that contains a
collection of photos of the artist's work. Go to the counter and
ask to see one. If they tell you they don't have one, walk out
immediately. You are visiting the shop to commission a piece of
art to be permanently illustrated on your skin; for the artist to
tell you s/he doesn't have samples in a portfolio is insulting.
3.3. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN THEIR PORTFOLIO-------------
When you do look in their portfolio, there are a few things to
keep in mind. Do you see any photos of pieces that you recognize
in the flash (on the wall, or in a flash book)? If so, how is it
rendered in tattoo format? Before anything else, check to see
that the lines are clean. Are they well-defined? Straight where
they should be; not shaky or blurry? Do the colors seem true? Are
they bright? Proportionately correct?
Look at the people in the book. This can be an indicator of the
clientele in the shop (besides looking at the ambiance of the
shop). Is there a fair mix of women and men in the book? Are they
all sporting "biker" tats, or any one particular genre/style?
Again, keep in mind that anyone can stencil an outline of an
illustration onto your skin. The skill in the artistry comes in
the shading, use of colors and other subtle things that set an
artist apart from a simple tattooist.
Do you see anything in the portfolio that is not in the flash?
These are the custom pieces that the artists have done, and they
should be their crowning glory. How do they look? Do you like
what you see? If there is more than one artist working in the
shop, and you see some photos you like, make sure to find out
which artist did the work.
3.4. WHAT KINDS OF QUESTIONS TO ASK-------------
Whenever you ask to see their collection of photos, the person in
the shop will hopefully immediately recognize you as someone who
knows a little more about tattoos--at least enough not to be
satisfied by looking at just the flash. If the shop is not too
busy or if the artist is not in the middle of working, they might
stand on the other side of the counter to have a conversation
with you. This is a wonderful opportunity to ask questions of the
artist.
Some reasonable questions to ask in your conversation that
shouldn't take too much time for the artist to answer:
What is their favorite style?
--If what *you* are looking to get done happens to be their
specialty you are in luck; be it tribal, wildlife or whatever.
Is there any one particular subject they like to do?
--One artist, without hesitation, told me his favorite was
skulls. I would've jumped for joy had that been what I wanted.
How long has the shop been here?
--This may be an indicator of the stability of their business.
The tat industry in itself fluctuates, but continuity implies
business acumen, responsible practices and that they are not a
fly-by-night operation.
How long have they been at the shop?
--The shop may have been there for 20 years, but the artist may
only have been there for a couple of months. If they have been
there for what you consider a short period, ask them where they
were before.
How long have they been tattooing?
--It might not matter so much that the artist has only been
there for a short while, if they've been tattooing for several
years. They might come from various backgrounds--anywhere from
working on friends to having a fine arts degree. This type of
information will give you more insight into the artist's
attitude.
Do they get to do much custom work?
--This may depend on where the shop is located, but it also
depends on how good of an artist they are, and whether they have
their own style for which they are known for.
Do they use apprentices at the shop?
--It is often difficult for new artists to break into the
business, and an apprenticeship is often a very good way to learn
not only about tattooing itself, but also about the business of
operating a shop. For an artist to take apprenticeships means
they are interested in expanding the artform, in giving a new
person a break (so to speak) and feeling confident enough about
their own skills that they feel they can offer some insight and
experience for the new person. This again goes back to the
attitude of the artist and the shop.
Don't let the looks of the artist intimidate you. Tattoo artists
usually have a lot of tattoos themselves. The main thing is that
you need to talk with them and get a feel for what they are like.
As you talk with the artist and build a rapport, if you feel
comfortable you may want to broach the subject of what you're
interested in getting done. Bounce your idea off with the artist
and see what they are willing to help you with.
Remember however, that the artist is running a professional
business. Be polite--don't linger and overspend your welcome if
you don't plan on getting any work done at all.
3.5. WHAT SORTS OF THINGS TO LOOK FOR IN A SHOP------------
Looking critically at the shop is as important as choosing your
artist. Make sure the place is very clean, make sure the artist
uses an autoclave or uses disposable needles (or both even).
Don't be afraid to ask them, either.
What does the shop look like? What is its ambiance? Does it look
like a barber shop, a hair salon, dental office or an art
gallery? If you are a nonsmoker, will cigarette smoke bother you?
Look for used ashtrays as signs. Do the work areas offer you any
privacy? Do they use shower curtains, private booths or shoulder-
high room dividers?
Try to go and visit and then come back some other day. Don't feel
pressured into having to get one right then and there. Try and
talk to some people that have experience with the artist (and not
the groupies that you will find hanging around the shop). You
should feel comfortable with the artist and you should like
him/her. If you don't, then don't get a tattoo.
Make sure the artist is willing to listen to you and respects
what you want. Don't go to an artist that has an agenda of what
he/she wants to do. The artist may make suggestions, but the
final word is always yours.
Finally, make sure you take their business card with you. If the
artist you talk to does not have his/her own card, jot down the
name on the back, and perhaps some notes to yourself about the
shop and the artist.
4. HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO GET A TATTOO? ----------
This is an age-old debate, so the following is just a very basic
ballpark. You usually pay for work either by the piece, or by the
hour. The smaller pieces in the artist's flash book are "standard
stock" material that usually don't take the artist too long to
do. For these, you might find prices listed right next to the
artwork. The artist may have a "minimum" charge that might vary
depending on the artist.
Larger (or custom) pieces will usually be charged by the hour. If
you get a "stock" piece (probably about 2" x 2" in size), you
will probably not pay more than $100 and sit no longer than an
hour in the chair. Your mileage may vary.
If you bring your own design , the artist may charge anywhere
from $50 to several hundred dollars an hour, depending on the
artist. However, you may want to work with someone who charges
$100 or so an hour; after all, you DO get what you pay for. Also,
some artists charge for illustration time prior to beginning
tattoo work. If they do, this might increase your price by an
extra hour. If they tell you that your piece will be charged by
the hour, ask them how many hours they think it'll take.
Price negotiation should be up front and straightforward, a part
of your initial discussion before work begins. Some shops take
credit cards; many don't. Out-of-towners may be asked to put down
a deposit. Be particularly wary of people willing to work "for
cheap" or "for free." They are often artists just starting out,
who are still developing their skills. Caveat emptor.
Warning: Once the artist quotes you a price, *DON'T DICKER WITH
IT!* The best way to get on the artist's bad side is to try to
bargain with the price. If you think the price is too high,
renegotiate the scope of the artwork--NOT the price.
If you are very pleased with their work and service, you are
strongly encouraged to tip the artist, even if they own the shop.
This can range from 10% to 20% of the piece, so be prepared with
cash on hand.
5. HOW SHOULD I ACT WHEN I GET IN THAT CHAIR?
Once you have settled on a design and a price that you and your
artist agree on, the work will either begin right then, or you
will be asked to come back for a later appointment (if s/he has
another client coming in in 15 minutes, for example).
Once you're in that chair, what can you expect?
Most likely, the artist will begin the long process of preparing
for your work. This is especially true if the artist is going to
do a custom design that you brought in. First, the design will
have to be worked on. Most artists will play around with the
design on paper first, although some artists will do it freehand.
"Freehand" means the artist takes an ink pen to hand and begins
drawing a design on your skin without the use of a stencil (NOT
where the artist begins work with the tattoo gun immediately--the
artist, no matter how good, still needs to envision how the work
will look on your skin--proportion, placement, etc.).
When the artist seems happy with the design, s/he might outline
the design with a piece of carbon paper, or use an old-fashioned
copy machine to get a working copy of it. This would be when the
artist would properly size the design. The artist will then clean
your skin where the work will be done (probably an alcohol or
antiseptic rub), and will swipe your skin with an "adhesive,"
which is usually Mennen Skin Bracer deodorant (for some reason
*I* haven't seen any other brands). The artist will then put the
carbon side of the design directly on your skin. When the paper
is lifted, ta-da! A carbon line drawing of the design should
appear on your skin!
The artist will probably let you look in a mirror to make sure
you are happy with the design and the placement. Once this is
agreed upon, the artist will then begin putting the supplies out.
At this point, your artist should be doing things like dispensing
various colors of ink into little disposable wells, and rigging a
new (or autoclaved) set of needles together. All the time, you
will probably try to look cool by looking around the studio walls
or occasionally looking to see what your artist is doing. Your
artist might have a radio playing, which will help distract you a
little, too.
At this point, it is easiest to try to relax. You can ask the
artists about some things, like the colors of the ink. Depending
on the work you are getting, the artist will need to mix some
colors, for example. You are probably somewhat nervous, but
excited at the same time because you are actually gonna get a
real tattoo! Whether you realize it or not, your body is probably
going through quite an adrenalin rush. Try to remain calm and not
too anxious. Because of your hyped-up condition and your anxiety
about the anticipated pain of your experience, that in itself may
trigger a fainting spell.
Just relax and try to stay calm. For women, the experience of
anxious anticipation is similar to a pelvic exam at an OB/GYN,
where you are more nervous about it while waiting for the doctor
as you lie prone on the examining table, feet in the stirrups.
Just as most exams aren't painful or really all that bad, neither
is tattooing.
The most painful part of the process will pass in a couple of
minutes, after which the area will feel abuzz with electricity
and warmth. Just try to relax and breathe deeply--enjoy the one-
of-a-kind experience that you are feeling. Oftentimes, you end up
clenching your jaws, grinding your teeth or grasping the chair
with your white-knuckled hands. But once you pass the first
couple of minutes, you'll feel silly for having worried about it
so much.
Some people try to distract themselves by trying to talk with the
artist. This is kind of like with hair stylists--some stylists
just love to gab and gab (just ask them an open-ended question),
while some stylists would rather concentrate and not screw up
your hairdo. Same with tattoo artists. While some will like to
"talk story" with you, others would rather concentrate on the
work you're paying them to do. After all, their job, income, and
reputation are on the line when they have the tattoo gun to your
skin. Often, they'll talk during easy parts, and less during
complex work. Just go with the flow and not worry about it.
The only thing I don't particularly prefer is if there's a lot of
traffic walking around in the studio and the artist has to keep
talking to them (either potential clients or tattoo groupies).
For this reason, a cubicle or dividing partition is a nice option
for privacy.
Most people can sit through over an hour of work, but if you get
uncomfortable, just ask your artist if you can take a break. If
you feel woozy, you might consider bringing some candy with you
to give you a little lift, or some water to drink.
--==*-<*>-*==--
This ends "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 2/9--Getting a tattoo."
This should be followed by "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 3/9--
Sanitation."
--
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The rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ is broken up into 9 parts:
1/9--Introduction
2/9--Getting a tattoo
3/9--Sanitation <---YOU ARE READING THIS FILE
4/9--Conventions
5/9--Artist list
6/9--Care of new tattoos
7/9--General care/removal
8/9--Misc. info
9/9--Bibliography
WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS:
This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of
questions and answers. Questions answered in this file:
Rec.arts.bodyart FAQ Part 3/9: Sanitation
1. Can I get infectious diseases from tattoo needles?
2. What to look for in a sanitary shop environment.
3. Can I get AIDS from tattooing?
4. Can my tattoos get infected?
4.1. How to look for sterilization
5. Are there any medical conditions that will preclude me from
getting a tattoo?
6. What is the Alliance of Professional Tattooists?
1. CAN I GET INFECTIOUS DISEASES FROM TATTOO NEEDLES? -------
There has been some concern recently regarding transmittable
diseases (particularly Hepatitis-B and AIDS [HIV]) and tattoo
shops. Just as in a dentist's office, as long as the area is
strictly sanitized, your chances for infection will be greatly
reduced.
2. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A SANITARY SHOP ENVIRONMENT. ----------
The current popularity of tattooing and body piercing has also
brought on an increase in potentially hazardous conditions.
R.a.b. regulars have begun posting information on unsanitary
practices. For this reason, I am posting the following guideline
of what to look out for (in this situation, "artist" refers to
both tattooists and piercers):
-Lighting: The area must be well-lit so the artist can see what
s/he is doing.
-Disposing needles: All needles must be either discarded after
EACH use (or at least with each new customer), or autoclaved.
Many body piercers operate out of small booths and may not have
spent money for an autoclaver, in which they MUST dispose of each
needle. NO EXCEPTIONS. Reusing piercing needles is equivalent to
sharing IV drugs with strangers.
-Needles touching other things: The needles, once open from their
sanitary packages, must not be placed on unsanitized surfaces.
The piercer should NOT set the needle down on the table, or,
heaven forbid, DROP THE NEEDLE ON THE FLOOR!!! If this happens,
insist they open a new needle.
-Gloves: The artist must wash their hands prior to putting on
their gloves, preferably with an antibacterial/antiseptic
solution. Once they put their gloves on, they should not touch
anything other than your skin, the needle, and the jewelry. They
should not be filling out receipts beforehand, or answering the
phone--unless these have been wiped clean beforehand.
Be particularly wary of "outdoor fair booths." While many are run
by caring, experienced artists, these booths allow fly-by-night
operators to make some fast money and disappear. If you don't
know the artist, spend time watching them work on others first.
Are they reusing needles? Do they use needles that have dropped
on the ground?
If you see any unsanitary conditions that are particularly
alarming, post them to r.a.b. (better yet--email me or Ardvark
for the Piercing FAQ)! If you feel uncomfortable "naming names,"
then withhold the specifics for private email. It is each
customer's right to guard against getting a contamination. Worse,
If you have had more than one tattoo or pierce within several
months, it will be difficult for you to prove WHICH artist was
responsible!
3. CAN I GET AIDS FROM TATTOOING? ----------
IMPORTANT NOTE: This section refers to tattooing specifically,
and not to other forms of bodyart. Some, such as piercing and
cutting, require the breaking of the client's skin to a deeper
level than what is achieved with a modern tattoo gun.
This section on AIDS & Tattooing has been contributed by Nick
"Buccaneer" Baban (Nicolas.Baban@um.cc.umich.edu), who is
currently (as of '93) a student at the Univ. of Michigan School
of Public Health, Dept. of Epidemiology. He spent the summer
researching AIDS and IV drug use in NYC. "I'm not an expert, but
I consider myself knowledgable. Any furthur questions about AIDS
can be e-mailed to me."
Obviously there is some concern about AIDS and tattooing because
when you get a tattoo, you bleed. But the mechanism of
transmission needs to be better understood.
AIDS is transmitted by intimate contact with bodily fluids, blood
and semen being the most comon. Intimate contact means that the
fluid carrying the AIDS virus (HIV) enters into your system.
Injection drug users (IDUs) use hollow medical syringes and
needles to inject drugs directly into their bloodstream. It is
common practice to withdraw a little blood back into the syringe
to delay the onset of the high. When needles are passed from IDU
to IDU and reused without sterilization, some of that blood
remains in the syringe and is passed on to the next user. If
infected blood is passed, the recipient can become infected with
HIV, which leads to AIDS.
Tattooing is VERY different from injecting drugs. The needles
used in tattooing are not hollow. They do, however, travel back
and forth through a hollow tube that acts as an ink reservoir.
The tip of the tube is dipped into the ink, which draws a little
into the tube. As the needle withdraws into the tube, it gets
coated with ink. When it comes forward, it pierces your skin and
deposits the ink. You then bleed a little through the needle
hole. This happens several hundred times a second.
You are only at risk of infection if you come in contact with
infected blood. Since it is only *your* skin that is being
pierced during the tattooing process, only *your* blood is being
exposed. This means that the only person at greater risk is the
artist, because s/he is the only one coming in contact with
someone else's (potentially infected) blood. This is why
reputable (and sane) tattoo artist wears surgical gloves while
working.
Another source of infection is through the use of infected tools.
*This is why it is IMPERATIVE that you make sure your tattoo
artist uses sterile equipment.* Needles and tubes need to be
autoclaved before EACH AND EVERY time they are used. Ink should
come from separate cups and not directly from the bottle. Any
leftover ink should be disposed of and not reused under ANY
circumstances.
The key to HIV transmission is *transfer of bodily fluids.*
Evidence indicates that infection may require a (relatively)
substantial ammount of fluid to be passed. A pin prick almost
certainly won't do it. HIV is also a very fragile virus that
cannot survive long outside the human body, and is very easy to
kill via autoclaving. (I have heard of using bleach to sterilize
needles. While bleach is an effective HIV killer, I'm not sure of
the procedures for cleaning the equipment after bleach cleaning.
As I personally have no desire to have bleach put under my skin,
I go with autoclaving as the proper way to sterilize).
If your tattooer maintains sterile conditions and proceedures,
there is almost no risk of infection. I say "almost" because any
risk, no matter how miniscule, is still a risk and must be
recognized. That said, I am the proud owner of a Jolly Roger
tattoo on my right shoulder because I knew my tattooist and knew
he had sterile conditions.
3.1. HOW TO LOOK FOR STERILIZATION ----------
Check out the shop thoroughly. Don't be lulled into a false sense
of security by a clean look. If the needles are not disposed of
after each person, then it MUST be "autoclaved." Autoclaving is a
process that pressurizes the instruments and kills any virus or
bacteria that might transmit viruses or bacteria. My dentist has
two autoclavers--one gas and one steam--both pressurizing down to
250fsw. He also has spore samples that he autoclaves and sends to
a pathology lab to make sure the machines are working.
Ask the artist how they clean their needles. If they don't say
they autoclave, you are taking your risks. If they say they do,
ask to see their machine. Note that in some states, autoclaving
is required by law. Other common-sense types of things include
throwing out the ink after each customer. Make sure the artists
have small wells for each ink color that they dispense from a
larger container, and that these are thrown out after work on you
is done. Compare the conditions of the shop to that of your
dentist--does the artist wear gloves? Are the areas sprayed
clean? Are they insured?
According to the Navy Environmental Health Center Medical Corps
in Norfolk, Virginia, each year, a few cases of Hep-B are
reported in people who've gotten tattoos within the last two
months, but they have not been able to trace the disease back to
its source, nor attribute it directly to the tattoo.
Becky Fenton (AS.RAF@forsythe.stanford.edu) says: "I spoke with a
disease infection specialist at Kaiser [Permanente--US West Coast
health care system], and there have not been any incidents (as of
1990) of HIV being spread *to* a recipient of a tattoo. If you
think about it, the tattooist is much more at risk, as s/he has
to touch the customer's blood.
David Zinner (dzinner@desire.wright.edu) notes that a blanket
statement regarding the use of autoclaves could be misleading.
While an autoclave will kill the HIV virus, it is not because of
the efficacy of the 'clave, but because of the weakness of that
particular virus. Far more insidious is Hepatitis, which is more
tenacious, and which a 'clave does not always kill. He has
gotten all of his info from CDC, by the way.
The irony, he says, is that now virtually anyone can afford a
'clave, because many hospitals are selling them secondhand for a
very good price, and switching either to disposables, or
purchasing dry-heat or chemical sterilizers. Chemical is the
best rated, and this is what Craig has. He says that his
business has increased because of the precautions he takes; and
if I were to get tattooed, it would be by him, in part, because
he is so careful (he is also a very good artist).
In response to David's well-founded concern, Milton Diamond
(diamond@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu--he is a professor here at the UH
School of Medicine who has been researching sexuality for 30
years, and has numerous publications on AIDS to his credit) says:
Hepatitis is easier to transmit than HIV but all the bugs will be
killed IF the autoclave is run properly (i.e., set hot enough &
long enough). Some instruments can not, however, be autoclaved
since they cant take the heat. These have to be sterilized with
viracides, "bug"acides and so forth. In any case, here in the
States, EVERYONE should be using disposable needles.
The chemical bath is only as effective as how fresh is it, how
concentrated, what chemicals, how "dirty" or contaminated the
instruments, how long in the bath, which particular bug is under
attack, etc. It is not the device, autoclave or chemical
bath,that is as important as the operator. There are many
different bugs out there. HIV may be one of the most deadly and
Hep among the more easily transmitted but many others have to be
considered (including Chlamydia, the infection rate of which is
20%!) and "he who aims at one, hits one". "Mo betta aim fa dem
all." If the artist or piercer is conscientious and reliable and
knowledgeable either device could serve. Again my general rule
still stands: "EVERYONE should be using disposable needles."
Dr. Kai Kristensen (tattoodoc@aol.com) says: The needles that
push the ink into the skin (below the epidermis or outer covering
and into the mid-dermis or support structure under the epidermis)
can transmit disease UNLESS STERILE TO BEGIN WITH. When they have
been used on you, whatever bugs you carry in your blood can be
transmitted to the next person. The most commonly transmitted
disease by needlestick is hepatitis B (and C). Clearly AIDS could
be transmitted even though not documented yet to my knowledge.
The skin should be cleaned with antibacterial soap and water and
scrubbing before the procedure to lessen the normal population of
germs on the hide. Alcohol doesn't do much but tends to degrease
and cool, so no harm but no substitute.
4. CAN MY TATTOOS GET INFECTED? ----------
Not as long as you take care of your new tat. There is a section
in the FAQ that covers healing methods in depth. Some people have
trouble healing tattoos with colors they are allergic to. If it
gets infected and refuses to heal after a few days of using a
topical antibiotic, you may want to check with a doctor.
5. ARE THERE ANY MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT WILL PRECLUDE ME FROM
GETTING A TATTOO? ----------
If you have hemophilia. There is even a case of a man who was HIV
positive who got a tattoo--if you are HIV+ however, you will want
to inform the artist, since it's the artist that is at more risk
than you. [In the case of the HIV+ man, he was John Baldetta, a
former nursing assistant at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle,
who got a tat on his forearm that said "HIV Positive." He was
suspended for three days without pay and told he could return if
he covered up the tat. He refused and was subsequently fired,
although he was not an RN and was not doing anything that would
put patients at risk.]
6. WHAT IS THE ALLIANCE OF PROFESSIONAL TATTOOISTS?
This section was contributed by Pat Sinatra, a professional
tattoo artist and vice president of the organization. Pat can be
contacted at: patstats@aol.com:
The Alliance of Professional Tattooists (APT), Inc. is a
professional standards organization that was established in March
1992 and officially incorporated in June '92 as a non-profit
organization (contributions, fees and educational materials are
tax deductible.
Their activities:
-Continuing education to artists
-Offers accurate, up-to-date information about communicable
diseases through seminars
-Is interested in preserving tattooing as an artform
-Monitors legislative activity to prevent over-regulation
(controlled or banned)
-Believes in keeping the art of tattooing safe and legal through
education, knowledge and awareness
-Offers reliable information to tattoo lovers about safe tattoo
practices to ensure your health.
Headquartered in Maryland, its international membership has
expanded from the US to Canada, Europe and other countries. They
are currently establishing state chapters with state directors.
Their nine-hour seminar entitled, "Preventing Disease
Transmission in Tattooing," is taught by APT secretary, Dr. Kris
Sperry (Fulton County Medical Examiner, involved with tattooing
for over 10 years). Designed in 1988 to educate health care
workers (including tattooists) in the prevention of infection and
the implementation of professional standards,the program was
specifically redesigned in 1991-1992 for the needs of the
tattooist and is the standard for APT members. Since the 1991
Bloodborne Pathogens Rule, APT, Inc. has designed this manual for
tattooists.
PDTT is presented in various locations throughout the country at
a one time fee of $125.00 (APT members) or $300.00 (non-members).
This course is open to the Professional and Associate levels
only. Members are required to complete this seminar within two
years after initial application.
While we have noted that many individuals are promoting videos on
this subject, OSHA (the US Occupational Safety & Health
Association that regulates work-environment safety) says that an
infection control program cannot be taught by video, but by an
on-site knowledgable individual on site.
OSHA believes that the in-person interaction between instructor
and student is vital to the education of this serious subject,
and that individual questions regarding infection control,
universal precautions, disease transmission, pathology, etc.,
must be answered by a knowledgeable, credible instructor such as
Dr. Sperry.
--==*-<*>-*==--
This ends "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 3/0--Sanitation." This
should be followed by "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 4/0--
Conventions."
--
Lani Teshima-Miller (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu) "Sea Hare" o/ /_/_/
UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our
o|<0_0>------*
libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant \=^-| |_| |
nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]
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Archive-name: bodyart/tattoo-faq/part4
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Posting-frequency: Monthly
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The rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ is broken up into 9 parts:
1/9--Introduction
2/9--Getting a tattoo
3/9--Sanitation
4/9--Conventions <---YOU ARE READING THIS FILE
5/9--Artist list
6/9--Care of new tattoos
7/9--General care/removal
8/9--Misc. info
9/9--Bibliography
WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS:
This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of
questions and answers. Questions answered in this file:
Rec.arts.bodyart FAQ Part 4/9: Tattoo conventions
1. Tattoo Conventions: What are they all about?
2. What types of conventions are available?
3. Why would I want to attend?
4. What's the format?
5. What's the atmosphere?
6. What kind of tattoo contests are there?
7. Can I actually get a tattoo at a convention?
8. What else can I find at these conventions?
9. When and where are upcoming conventions?
1. TATTOO CONVENTIONS: WHAT ARE THEY ALL ABOUT? --------
If you want to meet others with tattoos, or would like to learn
more about tattoos, tattoo conventions may be the quickest way to
learn a *lot* and get exposed to things you normally wouldn't.
2. WHAT TYPES OF CONVENTIONS ARE AVAILABLE? ---------
The size and scope of conventions vary, and are sponsored by
different types of organizations. International and national
gatherings are usually sponsored by groups such as National
Tattoo Supply and the National Tattoo Tour, while regional and
local shows are often sponsored by tattoo shops.
3. WHY WOULD I WANT TO ATTEND? ---------
Philadelphia Eddie is quoted in a news article as saying, "...the
hoopla, the roar of the crowd, the smell of the antiseptic, the
blinking lights, the stories around the bars, the smiling faces
of my colleagues and friend--that is why I go to tattoo
conventions.
"Some people go to enter their tattoos and maybe win a small
prize. Some go to show off what they have accomplished in their
never-ending drive to be better in their chosen profession. Some
go to tattoo and earn a few dollars. Some go to sell trinkets.
The curious come to see what is going on. Some go to get away
from everyday stress. Some go looking for romance, and on and
on."
Artists attend to enhance professional reputations, do work on
old clients and develop new ones, exchange ideas with other
artists, and see what's new in the world of tattooing.
4. WHAT'S THE FORMAT? --------------
While local shows may be only for one day, regional events are 2
or 3 days long, and international and national conventions may
last 4 days. For these larger conventions, the first 2 days are
usually reserved for registrants (fees are $35-$45). The last two
days are open to the public for a single-day admission of around
$10. If you plan do more than just attend the booths, you may
want to pay for the whole weekend.
5. WHAT'S THE ATMOSPHERE? ----------------
The first two days tend to be more relaxed and less hurried when
they're closed to the public (the first 2 days at a recent San
Francisco convention had about 850 registrants). Depending on the
location of the convention and how it is advertised locally, you
can expect a mob scene when the doors open to the public. Fire
marshals were called in during the March 1993 San Diego
convention, when the crowd swelled to about 4,000 and people were
turned away at the door.
The convention floor is something akin to attending a rock
concert: A continuous parade of people who want to see, and be
seen. Many people dress outrageously to show off their work.
Expect to see LOTS of ink. Piercing has become a big part of the
tattoo scene, so you'll also see a great variety of body pierces.
Some conventions have booths where piercing supplies and services
are available. Note however, that the National Tattoo Association
has a strict code against body piercings and does not condone the
display of facial or body piercings at their conventions (rather
tough considering I saw many booth-workers with them!).
Don't let looks fool you. At first you might just see a sea of
bikers and leathers...but the atmosphere is very comfortable--
most people are very friendly, open-minded and accepting. Keep an
open mind when you go; meet people, exchange stories and above
all, have a great time.
6. WHAT KIND OF TATTOO CONTESTS ARE THERE? --------------
At the larger conventions, contests are held during the first two
days and are limited to registrants, while at the smaller ones,
they're open to everyone. Examples of categories: best black &
gray, most unusual, best tribal, best portrait, most realistic,
best overall-tattooed male, best overall-tattooed female, best
chest-back piece, best traditional piece, and best small piece.
Judging is done by a panel of artists and experts, or by audience
ballot or applause. Artists and experts are better-equipped to
base decisions on the rendering of the art, while audience-judged
contests often turn into "popularity contests," heavily
influenced by the name of the artist and the contestants'
personality/physical attractiveness. In an effort to please
everybody, some conventions hold contests by both popular vote as
well as a panel of judges.
7. CAN I ACTUALLY GET A TATTOO AT A CONVENTION? ------------
Larger shows may have as many as 50 booths, where artists and
shops from all over the world tattoo clients and sell trinkets,
t-shirts, hats, postcards and tattoo memorabilia. Try to make
arrangements with the artists several months ahead if you want
them to work on you at the larger conventions, especially if
they're well known. You should be able to get some work done even
if you don't plan ahead, and some artists will also work out of
their rooms to avoid the cost of renting booth space.
Caveat emptor: An artist told me that some artists have been
known to increase their prices during conventions to pay for
their travel expenses and booth rental fees (which can run
$500!). Your safest bet is to make prior arrangements with the
artist so you and your artist don't feel rushed.
Meet and see the work of famous artists. This will be your chance
to see some artists whose work you have only seen in the
magazines.
8. WHAT ELSE CAN I FIND AT THESE CONVENTIONS? ---------------
You can pick up books and magazines for your tattoo book library
from various booths (or be like me and collect business cards--
how Japanese of me!). Many booths have little freebies like pens
and bumper stickers. Some have their own booths to disseminate
literature, and sell books and magazines.
Many of the major tattoo magazines (and there are quite a few
these days) set up portable studios in and around the convention
center for people to get themselves photographed (no residual).
Convention sponsors may contract a video production group to
produce a tape of the show. They might set up a booth where
registrants can have their work taped.
In recent years, seminars geared towards artists have been added
at larger conventions, with topics such as "Creative Coloring",
Care and Tuning your Machine", "Spit-Shading - Watercolor",
"Tribal Tattooing", "Preventing Disease Transmission in
Tattooing"
9. WHEN AND WHERE ARE UPCOMING CONVENTIONS? -------------
--*1994*
--September 15-18: 3rd Annual Inkslinger's Ball @ the Hollywood
Palladium. Info: Tattoo Mania's Inkslinger's Ball, PO Box 2208
Redondo Beach, CA 90278, 1-800-824-8046.
--October 6-9: Tattoo Tour, San Diego, CA
Town & Country Hotel, 500 Hotel Circle North, San Diego, CA
92108, 1-800-77-ATLAS. Info: Tattoo Tour USA (see above)
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This ends "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ Part 4/9: Tattoo
Conventions." This should be followed by "rec.arts.bodyart:
Tattoo FAQ 5/9--Artist List."
--
Lani Teshima-Miller (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu) "Sea Hare" o/ /_/_/
UH School of Library & Info Studies. "Whatever the cost of our
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nation." -Walter Cronkite [R.a.b.bit--FAQ Maintainer: "Think Ink!"]
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The rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ is broken up into 9 parts:
1/9--Introduction
2/9--Getting a tattoo
3/9--Sanitation
4/9--Conventions
5/9--Artist list <---YOU ARE READING THIS FILE
6/9--Care of new tattoos
7/9--General care/removal
8/9--Misc. info
9/9--Bibliography
WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS:
This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of
questions and answers. Questions answered in this file:
Rec.arts.bodyart FAQ Part 5/9: Tattoo artist list
1. Who is a good/bad tattoo artist near me?
1.1. US West Coast/Pacific: Washington, California
1.2. US Southwest: Arizona
1.3. US Midwest: Ohio, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan,
Illinois
1.4. US Southeast: Louisiana, Florida
1.5. US East Coast: Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode
Island
1.6. Canada: British Columbia, London
1.7. EUROPE/UK: London
1.8. EUROPE/POLAND
1.9. ASIA/Japan
2. Where on my body should I get a tattoo?
1. WHO IS A GOOD/BAD TATTOO ARTIST NEAR ME? ----------
The following is a growing list of artists who are personally
recommended by readers of r.a.b. Most of the non-attributed
submissions came with the original FAQ compiled Paul Davies. In
some cases, artists have been posted here as a warning against
visiting them.
IMPORTANT NOTES ABOUT THIS SECTION OF THE FAQ:
A posting on this FAQ does *not* constitute approval, and is the
personal opinion of the reviewer. It is YOUR responsibility to
check out the artist and make sure s/he will do quality work.
Because I only accept personal recommendations, this list is
limited to those who are known to people who read r.a.b. There
are many excellent artists who have not made it on this list yet.
Just because an artist is not on this list doesn't mean they're
not recommendable. Consider the reviews in this list along the
lines of a restaurant or movie review--YMMV.
You may submit names to: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu. Include
the artist's name, address, phone number, hours, general prices
(or pricing scheme--per hour rate, etc.), specialization, and a
short review. If they have email access, please provide their
email address as well.
Do not send me a review of a "mediocre" artist and proclaim
him/her as excellent, or submit a bad review to bad-mouth
someone. Be factual--gossip and rumors are discouraged. Good
artists should have good business sense, a clean, sanitary
environment, straightforward fees, etc. Submissions by those with
self-interests (i.e. you have money invested in the business) are
highly discouraged and may be grounds for deletion in later
editions if the information you provide is grossly inflated.
I have tried to list the name and email address of each
contributor for accountability purposes, and for further inquiry.
I will not accept submissions from anonymous IDs. You must be
willing to put your name and email address behind your review.
Note to artists: Contact me if you find errors about your shop. I
will gladly accept a "rebuttal" from you if you get a negative
review. Depending on the situation, I may pull the original
review, or add your rebuttal into the review. However, note that
these are the personal opinions of people who say they have
received artwork from you or have some experience with you, and
can vouch for their personal experience and impressions.
Where available, I have included the information about the laws
regarding tattooing for that state. Note that some states leave
this up to the cities or municipalities. This information should
only be used for unofficial information purposes, and may change
by each legislative session--for accurate and up-to-date
information regarding the laws of your area, contact a
professional tattoo shop or the department of public health.
GREAT NEWS: More and more artists are getting email accounts. I
have posted these where available!
1.1 US WEST COAST & PACIFIC----------
**CALIFORNIA**
California law states professional tattoo artists are not allowed
to tattoo minors who are under the age of 18.
BAY AREA, CALIFORNIA (SOUTH BAY):
Berkeley
--------
--Tattoo Archive Research Center, 2804 San Pablo Ave., Berkeley,
CA 94702. (510) 548-5895
Run by C.W. (Chuck) Eldridge, archivist. Their primary mission
is to study tattoo history. They have quite a bit of historical
publications available, as well as interesting odds and ends
like postcards and repros of business cards. The $1.00 catalog
price is credited toward your first purchase. You can also
become a member of their Friends organization for $35 a year.
--Robert Roberts, Mad Dog (His name is Robert Roberts--Mad Dog
is the name of his tattooing enterprise.)
Inconsistent. While some of it is truly outstanding, others
aren't that great: It really depends on what you're getting.
Robert is great w/ all-black, but you might want to go
elsewhere if you want color.
--Tattoo City, 722 Columbus Ave, SF, CA 94133 (415) 433-9437
Contributed by Karl Elvis MacRae (batman@cisco.com)
The best in shop in SF (Actually, without a doubt the best
in the state; possibly the best in the country) "Tattoo City"
on Columbus; the shop is owned by Ed Hardy; the guys who work
there are simply great. You cannot go wrong with them.
Artists:
o Freddy Corbin: A hell of a nice guy--the single tattooist I
totally trust to do a great job on anything I want to do. He's
great at doing: People; traditional; shading (excellent,
subtle); tribal (sharpest I've ever seen). I'd say he's the
best tattooist who's work I've ever seen, and if I had to pick
a 'world's best', as of now, it would be Freddy.
o Eddie Deutsch: Does a few things really, really well. Apart
from what he does really well, he's not really my *favorite*
tattooist. He's got that psycho grafitti style down like no
one else I've ever seen; he is great with chrome and metal;
his biomechanicals are excellent. Can do great Japanese, but
it comes out not quite looking like traditional Japanese. And
he can do great traditional Sailor Jerry-style stuff. He also
does excellent, inventive tribal and good Celtic. I don't
(generally) like his people; he tends to do funny stuff with
the faces I don't care for. However, I've seen a few that he's
done a really good job on, so it's just a case of getting him
to do it like you want. Which is the big problem with Eddie;
if you want it different than he sees it, he's not easy to
work with. So if you don't share a vision with him, don't try
to get him to do it your way; he will, but it won't be as good
a job. My advice with Eddie is; do it his way, and if you
don't want it his way, do it with someone else.
--Erno Tattoo 252 Fillmore, San Francisco, CA 94117
(415)861-9206
Hours: Noon to 9pm. Appointments recommended.
Shop is clean, businesslike. Autoclaving used.
Artists:
o Nalla: Blackwork, celtic designs, excellent artist.
Also knowledgeable about piercings.
o Patrick: Good at black & celtic; specializes in high fantasy
art. Excellent dragons, fairies, etc, also sci-fi art).
o Jaime Trujillo: More traditional; good artist--ease & skill
of a seasoned pro.
San Jose
--------
--Pin Up Parlour. 520 South Second St., San Jose CA
Phone: (408) 279-3582.
Contributor: J. Eric Townsend (jet@netcom.com)
Artist: Klem
I went to Klem on the advice of Karl MacRae. Klem helped
figure out the right size of the piece I wanted (I'd brought
several pages of pre-scaled designs); talked to me quite a bit
about visual vs. physical balance of the placement of a tattoo
on people; and answered all my questions about how everything
worked, what he was doing, why he did it, etc. His speciality
seems to be in the non-geometric, like Asian fish designs
(he's got some beautiful drawings of koi in his booth).
--Steve Cameron at Zap Illustrations. 1385 W. San Carlos, #202
(408) 287-4011
Mostly custom; not for beginners. May try to talk you out of
a tat, if he doesn't think it appropriate to the rest of your
body-scheme. Very good free-hand work; likes bold, aggressive
designs. He'll put in vast amounts of design work for free,
if the design excites him.
--Pinky Yuen, Dragon Tattoo, San Jose.
Contributed by Karl Elvis MacRae (batman@cisco.com)
o Pinky Yuen (Or Yun; seen it both ways): Pinky used to be one
of the best around, and was one of the first (maybe THE first)
Hong Kong tattooist to come over here and start a shop, so I
consider it something of an honor to be wearing his work.
However in his advanced age (70s?), he's not the same he was
in his younger days. When he tattooed me (twice, the first
about 10 years ago, the second more like 7), he was still
doing OK work if he liked you, so I got some decent stuff.
Sacramento
----------
--Ken Cameron, California Tattoo Company. 7946 Auburn Blvd.,
Sacramento-Citrus Heights CA 95610. (916)723-3559
Contributor: Tim Lu (tlu@sunstroke.sdsu.edu)
This is in Sacramento not San Jose, they are kind of close
together. Maybe Ken/Steve are the same person, but maybe not.
Santa Clara
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--Eddie Lum, Eddie's Skin Works, 1207 El Camino Real, Santa
Clara (408) 554-8520
I highly recommend Pinky's brother, Eddie Lum. His forte, not
surprisingly, is Oriental stuff. Very good w/ flowing lines,
dragons,tigers, flowers. I have 2 pieces from him & am very
pleased. Warning: For custom designs, there's a
language barrier, you may have to explain it several times.
Redwood City
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--Redwood Tattoo, 846-M Jefferson Ave., Redwood City, CA
(415) 369-6365, walk-ins welcome, but appts have priority.
Closed Sun. & Mon, appts required for custom work. Cash only.
Contributor:
Rebecca Fenton (AS.RAF@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU).
Artists:
o Paco Dietz: Was at Picture Machine in San Francisco;
specializes in fantasy art, custom designs. New shop w/ lots
of new flash. Beautiful tribal and celtic designs, as well as
some unusual Native American designs. Darker style
o Karl: Apprentice, past experiences have been scratching out
of his home. Specializes in Neo-Japanese. Does very nice
custom work (my favorite of his is a butterfly with a tiger
face peering out at you through the wing designs), experience
in blackwork and fine line.
Piercer:
o Fashia Fontaine: Trained under Fakir Musafar
*WARNING*: I have received some disconcerting info from r.a.b.
regular Barbara MacRae regarding the quality and sanitary
conditions of this piercer's operations. Until I am notified
by Bay Area r.a.b.ers of improvements, this warning will
remain.
Santa Barbara
-------------
--Pat Fish, Tattoo Santa Barbara
Bar-none! I've seen some of her Celtic work (her specialty),
and she's *really good*. (I read an interview where she said
she thinks it's a genetic race-memory or something, and went
into tattooing specifically to get into Celtic work.)
Greater Los Angeles (Orange County, LA)
---------------------------------------
--Skin Works, 313 East Balboa Blvd, Newport Beach CA, 92661, ph.
714-675-8905 (in Orange County, just south of Los Angeles)
Contributor: Tim Lu (tlu@sunstroke.sdsu.edu).
Artists:
o Ardee Allen (owner): Excellent, always very professional. I
feel it's important to support women in business--been going
to her for about 5 years and she's done my entire chest &
about 3/4 of my back. Periodically attends conventions,
work has appeared in a number of tattoo magazines.
Specialties: Custom work, coverups, colorwork, sumi (Japanese
calligraphy) style grey work.
o Lynda Tobbin: Talented artist who does very nice custom work.
Piercer:
o Val: Specialize in body piercing.
--Kari Barba's Twilight Fantasy Tattoo. 3024 W Ball Rd (@ Beach),
Anaheim, CA 92804. (714) 761-8288. Contributor: Tim Lu
(tlu@sunstroke.sdsu.edu).
Artist: Kari Barba (her hours: usually 11-5pm, off Wed--shop is
open 11-10)
Extremely well-known for her work w/ nature & wildlife. Style
reminiscent of a watercolor-like quality, which sets her
apart from many other artists. Her shop wall is covered with
awards. Nice front reception area; work area behind reception
counter. Not too much privacy--individual work areas not
divided.
They also have a second shop in Riverside, although Kari Barba
works primarily out of the Anaheim shop.
Contributor: Jonathan Ward (drdrums@csld.ucr.edu):
--Twilight Fantasy Tattoo of Riverside, 5517 Van Buren Bl
(Sylvan & Van Buren), Riverside, CA. (909)688-8282
M-Th 11-10 FSS 11-11 MC VS AM Disc, cash no checks
San Diego
---------
--Avalon Gallery, 1035 Garnet Ave., San Diego, CA 92109 (in
Pacific Beach) (619) 274-7635.
*EMAIL ACCESSIBLE!* Patty Kelley: kelley@aol.com.
Needles autoclaved, new ink for each new client. Hours: Noon
to 8pm. Appts preferred--walk-ins on Sat. only. Cash only.
Each artist has a studio booth so privacy ensured.
Artists:
o Patti Kelley: Specializes in bright color work. Award winner,
booked a few months ahead.
o Fip Buchanan (her husband): Graffiti art.
o Steve Barjonas: Likes all styles but particularly enjoys
Native American gray work.
o Randy: Comic book art-style.
o Mike Strobbe:
**OREGON**
Oregon House Bill 2569: Deals with the licensing and training of
artists, who are required to pass an exam and pay an annual fee
to the Advisory Council to the Health Division for Electrolysis
(and tattoos). They are also required to continue their education
through workshops and classes.
**WASHINGTON (State)**
Seattle
-------
--Dermagraphics of Seattle, 1516 Western Ave., Seattle, WA
(206) 622 1535, by appointment only.
This is Vyvyn Lazonga's shop. Specializes in combining bold
primitive lines with colorful, flowing abstract geometrics--
lines, bubbles, etc. "A fusion of primitive & modern
tattooing" according to her card. The whole effect is very
pleasing, and rather unique, & would work well for both men
and women, I think. Also works out of San Francisco. (P.S.
According to her card, her name is spelled "Vyvyn," not
"VyVynn.")
--Seattle Tattoo Emporium, 1106 East Pike St., Seattle.
(206) 622 6895
Hostess (twinkie@u.washington.edu) says: I had a decent (if
not average) small rose tattooed by a guy named Hubba at the
Seattle Tattoo Emporium. But soon after, a girl I worked with
(who has 14-15 tattoos) told me that she and her friends had
had bad experiences from them in the past, stemming primarily
from their unprofessional behavior in trying to "hit on them"
in what they perceived as rather unflattering ways. Please
note that this did not happen to me when *I* went, although
they did not provide very good aftercare instructions.
Kat O'Bryan (kat@eskimo.com) says: Okay, I beg to differ on
this one. I got my (very beautiful) tattoo at Seattle Tattoo
Emporium. Jim Hillary was the artist. I have seen other work
he has done, and I thought it was beautiful. I don't know if I
would have gotten any of the other guys there to do it, but I
liked what I saw in his book. Plus he is a nice guy. I get
constant compliments on my tattoo (whenever I wear a shirt
that is low enough in back). I guess any place can have its
mistakes. [Kat tells me she didn't have any trouble with the
male artists there.]
Spokane
-------
--Artistic Impressions, 4901 North Market, Spokane, WA 99207
(509) 483-6545
Contributor: Victor Swan (swanv@Wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu) ["2 pieces
on biceps & a large chest piece for a total of about 13 hours."]
Artist: Duffy Moon
Review: Clean, well lit, open feeling shop. Atmosphere is
business-like, professional and congenial for both males and
females (sometimes has a female apprentice). Clientele are both
young and old; shop does not have a biker image, although bikers
do come in from time to time. Has alot of original flash, much of
it not priced. He prices this original flash after he does a
piece once. Buys original tattoo artwork from local artists.
Duffy is well worth his custom rate of $75/hour (1993) which is
the top rate in this area.He charges you less than the original
quote if it takes less time than he estimates; he never charges
more than the originally quoted price.
Technique, skill, craftsmanship are excellent. Does incredible
fine work. Seems to like the opportunity to be creative--adds
to/alters designs on the fly. I encourage this.
His personal, almost full-sleeve tattoos were full-page
pictured in _Skin & Ink_, Feb. '94, p. 61. He and his "Most
Unusual" award winning tattoo from the Chicago Tattoo Tour '93
are in a full-page picture in _Tattoo Ink_, Jan. '94, p. 64.
*HAWAII*
Oahu
----
--China Sea Tattoo, 1033 Smith, Honolulu, Hawaii, (808) 553-1603
The oldest tattoo studio in the US with a grand tradition. In
Chinatown area near Downtown Honolulu. Suggest going during
the day (hours: Noon-11pm) to avoid seedy nightlife scene.
Artists: Mike Malone, Scotty and Kandi Everett.
All excellent. Mike very active in the tat world, and attends
Kandi Everett (who is very famous) only works there on Tues,
(also works at Dragon Tattoo in Wahiawa on Mondays),
specializes in Hawaiian-style designs and has 10 years'
experience.
--Skin Deep Tattooing, 2128 Kalakaua Ave, Hon. (808) 924-7460.
If in Waikiki, you may want to stop by; right on the main
strip. Place is run by Winona Martin & several of her
workers. Advertises heavily; may be pricy due to Waikiki
location.
1.2 Southwest --------
*ARIZONA*
--Jil, Skin Alive Tattoos, Prescott, Arizona. (602) 772-2387.
Formerly of Bodygraphics, Reno. By appointment only.
My *favorite* tattoo artist. Forte is wildlife, but good with
just about everything--would be very successful wildlife
artist in another medium. Her tattoos have an incredible
amount of life, & her detailing is incredible. 20 years'
experience. She's a custom fineline specialist, & has won
awards. Style is what I think of as "fineline steel
engraving" (as opposed to Kari Barba, who does incredible
animals, but primarily with striking colorwork). Found
her by pouncing on a total stranger & demanding to know who
did his *incredible* tats.
1.3 MIDWEST --------
*INDIANA*
--Jeannie Fritch, Personal Art Tattoos, 3453 Central Ave.,
Lake Station, IN, (219) 962-3600
--Roy Boy's Badlands, 3849 Broadway, Gary, IN 46409,
(219) 884-4965.
Needles autoclaved. I got an all-black, tribal piece (a very
even dark gray)--Design was reproduced on my skin quite
accurately. Flash is stereotypical and old-looking, though
some nice Celtic designs. Felt vaguely sleazy--badly painted
signs in the front, water-damaged ceiling panels inside.
Actual work areas were spotless, but the building doesn't
inspire confidence. Good enough, but not really anything
special, what with Guy Aitchison a few miles away.
*ILLINOIS*
Illinois Compiled Statutes Annotated @ 16-5-71 (1993):
Professional tattoo artists are not allowed to tattoo minors
under the age of *21*. Violations are considered a Class C
misdemeanor.
--Guy Aitchison, Guilty + Innocent Productions, 3105 N. Lincoln,
Chicago, IL 60657, (312) 404-6955 tattoos, 404-6963 merchandise
$1 catalog available by mail.
*EMAIL ACCESSIBLE!* Dawn Grace Russell: dawngr@rci.ripco.com
Contributor: Phredd Groves (phredd@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) and
Dawn Grace Russell (see above)
One of the most popular & well-known artists in the country.
Rates:$150.00/hr, includes consultation/drawing time. Guy is
booked a year and a half in advance--deposit required,call for
details. Award winning artist,highly skilled,very adept at
translating your wishes into reality,hot stuff! Well worth the
price and longish waiting period.
Also at GIP are Rob Koss (see Milios shop below) and Deborah,
great talents! Merchandise is available---many t-shirts,posters
and flash-for a catalog, send a buck to cover the cost of postage
to the shop.
Note 1: Dawn is Guy's apprentice. While she cannot help you
move your schedule up, she will be more than happy to help you
with information, etc.
Note 2: *GUY DOES FRACTAL WORK*! Dawn writes: Guy's been doing
quite a bit of fractal work lately. Guy says "you have to forget
everything you've ever learned about drawing, because it's a
completely different thing." Apparently the difficulty of
rendering a fractal was quite a challenge! He's mastered it now,
but it's always comforting to know that such a great talent can
get stumped! If you can't get in to see Guy, I'd HIGHLY
reccommend the guys at PRIMAL URGE in San Francisco, particularly
Timothy Hoyer and Marcus Pacheco-those guys do VERY high quality
work and really know how to lay the color in!
--Body Basics Precision Tattooing & Body Piercing, 613 W Briar,
Chicago, IL 60657. (312) 404-5838.
This is Mad Jack's place. I don't know much about his work but
I do know he's been in the business for quite a while, and that
Guy used to work there.
--Milios Hair & Skin Studio, 3205 N. Clark St, Chicago, IL 60657
(312) 549-1461.
*EMAIL ACCESSIBLE!* Adam Rybaczuk: aryba@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Contributor: Adam Rybaczuk (aryba@casbah.acns.nwu.edu)
To my knowledge the only tattoo shop in the country set in a
full service hair salon & clothing boutique! Shop also has a
pool table & a very relaxed, non-traditional atmosphere.
Flash available, but custom pieces preferred. Referenced in
the Nov. '93 issue of _Allure_ magazine. Cash only, $100/hour
(custom), deposit required. All equipment autoclaved; needles
used once & discarded. Chicago Health Dept inspected &
approved, proper licenses present.
Artists:
o Robert Koss: Main artist, works at Guy Aitchison's Guilty +
Innocent Prod 2x/week. Does mostly custom work & does fine,
fine work.
o Adam: Apprenticing under Rob. [Note: Adam the contributor is
also Adam the apprentice. While you can email him about the
shop, his account is through his "day job," so please use
some common sense as far as taking time out from his job to
reply to you. If you're in the area, it's probably better to
phone.]
--Tatu Tattoo, 1754 W. North Ave., Chicago, IL, (312) 772-TATU
Contributor: Phredd Groves (phredd@casbah.acns.nwu.edu)
--Body Basics Precision Tattooing and Body Piercings
613 W. Briar, Chicago, IL, 60657. (312) 404-5838, (a block
south of Belmont, west of Broadway), Tues.-Sat. 2 to 10pm
Contributor: Phredd Groves (phredd@casbah.acns.nwu.edu)
Run by Mad Jack and Anna, Jack does the tattoos and both do
piercings (appointment only). Can personally recommend these
guys as far as piercing & professionalism goes.
--I'm No Angel Production, 2606 W. Farmington Rd., Peoria, IL
61604. (309) 673-4930. Contributor Steven Parks
(nudnik@bucs1.bradley.edu)
Wanda Harper is the owner/artist. Open Noon to 8pm everyday.
New needles and ink for each new customer. Appointment
required. Specializes in Celtic and Native American designs,
as well as piercings. Learned from Jim Hawk (Galesburg), who
occasionally stops by for a visit, and people in town who
know him may come in for a special tat. Wanda looks out for
her customers and won't do work that won't turn out--It's all
in the reputation.
*IOWA*
The Code of Iowa @ 135.37 (1992): Professional tattoo artists
must obtain permits through the Department of Public Health. They
are not allowed to tattoo an minor, which they define as "an
unmarried person who is under 18 years of age." Violators are
guilty of a "serious misdemeanor."
*MICHIGAN*
--Suzanne, Creative Tattoos, 307 E. Liberty, Ann Arbor, MI, 48104
Contributor: Jean-Luc Reutter (reutter@igd.fhg.de)
Needles autoclaved but I don't know about new ink for every
customer.
Artist:
o Suzanne: BS, MA of Fine Art. Great custom designs, preferably
black only or celtic. Skilled artist but sometimes lacks
motivation w/ smaller pieces; results may vary in quality.
Cash only, usually no receipt. Usually by appt only, very
rarely walk-ins. Sometimes guest artists. Nice friendly
atmosphere.
Piercer:
-Barbara
Lance "Zaphod" Bailey (lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca) says: "She really
doesn't specialize in Celtic stuff. Used to, but doesn't any
more--says her old eyes aren't good enough for it. Was in her
shop yesterday and she seemed pretty disinterested in doing
Celtic stuff on me. Maybe Celtic-inspired, but it's going to take
some work from me to get a design she's willing to do, & I'm
willing to wear...sigh. But she does specialize in being good :)
I saw a wizard she did yesterday and it was so very nice.
*MINNESOTA*
--Acme Tattoo Co., 1045 Arcade St., St. Paul, MN, (612) 771-0471
*Good* but expensive. Pre-designed tats are costly & other
work is $200/hour (as of '92).
--Steve Butterfield, Tattoos by Yerkew, 3127 Nicollet Ave,
Minneapolis, MN, (612) 825-6161
Steve is real good, but the shop's owner, Dave "the fat guy"
Yerkew leaves quite a bit to be desired. Steve around after
about 6:00 pm
*OHIO*
--Marty Holcomb, Marty's Artistic Tattooing, 3160 West Broad
St., Columbus, Ohio
Marty won several national "Best Tattoo Artist" awards in the
1991.
--Dana Brunson, Designs by Dana, 4167 Hamilton Ave.,
Cincinnati, OH (513) 681-8871
--Tattoos by Woody. Toledo Tattoo, 2068 Airport Hwy,
Toledo, Ohio 43609, (419) 382 8805.
Contributor: Jean-Luc Reutter (reutter@igd.fhg.de)
Needles autoclaved but I don't know about new ink for every
customer. Good custom designs, by appointment only, very
reasonable prices. Refuses to do swastika sh*t. Clean &
friendly atmosphere.
*SOUTH DAKOTA*
South Dakota Codified Laws @ 9.34-17 (193) allows each
municipality to regulate individually. However, @26-10-19 also
states that minors may obtain tattoos with the signing of a
consent form by parents. Violation is a Class 2 misdemeanor.
*WISCONSIN*
Wisconsin Statute @ 948-70 (1991-1992) prohibits tattoo artists
from tattooing "children" (age not specified--assume 18).
Violators are guilty of a Class D forfeiture.
1.4 SOUTHEAST --------
*ARKANSAS*
Arkansas State Annotated @ 5-27-228 (1993) allows the tattooing
of minors with the written consent of the minor's parent, legal
guardian or legal custodian.
*FLORIDA*
Florida Statute @877.04 (1992) states that tattooing is illegal,
and violators are guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree.
Do NOT ask me why this shop exists--perhaps there are other laws
regarding municipalities or a grandfather clause I'm not aware
of.
--Ancient Art, (407) 855-TATU
Lance Bailey (lrb@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca) says he was happy w/ Mike.
Caroline Emmons (cemmons@garnet.acns.fsu.edu) says: "Ancient
Art" inked several of my friends, who were all quite
satisfied. I think the main guy is supposed to be kind of an
asshole, but he has a new assistant who I hear has less of an
attitude
*GEORGIA*
Official Code of Georgia Annotated @ 16-5-71 (1993) states that
it is illegal to tattoo a person under the age of 16. Violators
are guilty of a misdemeanor. Also, OCGA @ 16-12-5 states that it
is illegal to tattoo within one inch of an eye socket.
*KENTUCKY*
Tattooing is legal with a $20 annual permit.
*LOUISIANA*
Louisiana Revised Statutes 14:93.2 (1992) states that tattooing
minors under 18 is legal only with the consent of a parent.
Violators are fined $100 to $500.
New Orleans
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--Electric Expressions, 2327 Veterans Blvd. Ste B, Kenner, LA
70062. (504) 464-0053. Appointments preferred
Artists:
-Henri: Considered one of the better artists in N'Awlins area,
personally recommended by Elayne Binnie (Rings of Desire
below). We visited this shop looking to get some work done,
was told Henri lived next door to the shop. We never got any
work because Henri, knowing we were there, made us wait for
over an hour while he "took a shower" (according to his
apprentice). I looked at his flash--the work was good--however
I personally am not willing to patronize businesses that think
they can keep potential customers waiting in the lobby (he
could've easily let his apprentice tell us to come back in 2
hours). Take a pillow and a good book to read with you.
--Rings of Desire, 1128 Decatur St. 2nd fl, New Orleans, LA
70116 Above "Boomerang" (leather shop), (504) 524-6147
This is a body piercing shop--tattoos are *NOT* done here.
However the shop owner, Elayne "Angel" Binnie, is the subject
of a poster that shows a tattoo of wings on her back--she also
has her entire legs covered with multi-hued fish scales, done
by Juli Moon, that is a true marvel to behold. If you're down
in the French Quarter, visit her shop just to gawk at her
tattoos. She's off Mondays & Tuesdays.
*NORTH CAROLINA*
Carrboro
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--Choice Peach Tattoo, 304-E W. Weaver St. Carrboro, NC 27516.
(919) 932-9888 is excellent.
They do 100% original work, NO flash. By appointment only.
Review by Scott Jacobs (sjacobs@phoenix.cs.uga.edu):
I have nothing but positive recommendations on the ability of
the (as of August 1993) two artists there. They do all custom
work, no flash at all. Both artists (I wish I could remember if
it is Tom and Marshall who are the artists or if Tom Marshall is
the one who did my work and he has a partner whose name I forget.
Anyway...) have extensive photo albums of their work and
clippings from publications that have featured their work. The
shop is small and very friendly. They have an autoclave on the
premises that I jokingly quizzed Tom on. The blackwork tribal
that I recieved from Tom has some of the sharpest edges I've ever
seen on a tat, much sharper than some prievious blackwork I've
gotten. Tom's rates are reasonable, especially considering the
amount of consultations and drawings he did. They are not limited
to one style however.
*OKLAHOMA*
Oklahoma 21 OKI. St. @ 841 (1992) BANS all tattooing across the
state.
*SOUTH CAROLINA*
South Carolina Code Annotated @ 16-17-700 (1991) states that
tattooing is illegal, and violation of this is a misdemeanor.
*TENNESSEE*
One of a handful of states with extensive tattooing legislation,
perhaps to assist in the large number of military personnel
there.
Tennessee Code Annotated @ 39-14-403 (1993) states that minors
under 18 are not allowed to obtain tattoos. Violations are a
Class A misdemeanor. TCA @ 62-38-102 through -176 deals
specifically with various concerns regarding professional
tattooing. Of interest to the reader include: Training required;
permit & fee for artist; semi-annual inspections of shops;
operating room must be separate from waiting room; sterilization
required; autoclave required on site; needle sterilization
legislated (including how many minutes at what temperature); skin
care information required.
Memphis
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--Rocky's. 604 South Highland St., Memphis, TN 38111 (910) 323-
8288.
Hours: 3pm to Midnight. Walk-ins only.
Place owned by Rocky, but I only know about Kevin, who did 2
chest pieces on my husband. Kevin is