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Replies to E.U. Parliament voting to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms

Replies to E.U. Parliament voting to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms
Replies to E.U. Parliament voting to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms



Previous Politech message:
http://www.politechbot.com/2005/12/14/eu-parliament-votes/ 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Politech] E.U. Parliament votes to force "data retention" 
  on telecom, Net firms [priv]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:19:36 -0500
From: Jonathan Zittrain 
To: Declan McCullagh  

[pls obfuscate email address to avoid spam bots]

--

Declan,

I'm curious whether a US or other foreign market might arise for
turnkey startup-to-shutdown VPN services on European PCs, allowing
those inside Europe to render data retention moot in exchange for a
slight slowdown in network performance (as everything routes through
an overseas server) and the possibility of surveillance or retention
in that third location.  One wonders if any of the member state
implementations of the directive will seek to penalize the provision
or use of such services under an "induce" or other standard.  ...JZ

Jonathan Zittrain
Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation
   Oxford University
Jack N. and Lillian R. Berkman Visiting Professor for Entrepreneurial
Legal Studies
   Harvard Law School
 



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [Politech] E.U. Parliament votes to force "data retention" 
on telecom, Net firms [priv]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:58:31 -0500
From: Richard M. Smith  
To:  
CC: 'Declan McCullagh' , 'Richard M. Smith' 
 

Hi Ralf,

Do you have sense how long wireless carriers are typically keeping around
call data today without there being any kind of government mandate?  Also,
with cellphones, location data is available even when a call is not being
made.  Will this location data also have to kept around under the proposed
law?

Richard

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Politech] E.U. Parliament votes to force "data retention" 
on telecom, Net firms [priv]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:29:09 -0600
From: G.Waleed Kavalec  
To: Declan McCullagh  
References: <43A041B1.1070508@well.com> 

Basically this will drive business (customers) to the countries with no or
minimum requirements since their vendors will have the least cost to have to
pass on.

(d'Oh!)
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