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Can a virus damage hardware? Sort of, yes! Lucid Usenet thread.




From henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com Fri Dec 15 18:00:40 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: HLE <henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:00:40 GMT

I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.

Myth?

Thanks,

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From akhibs@my-deja.com Fri Dec 15 18:55:06 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: AkHibby <akhibs@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:55:06 GMT

In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>,
  HLE <henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com> wrote:
> I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
>
> Myth?
>
These days, yes.  Come on Sugien, I can't believe you haven't jumped in
yet  :)

Ian


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From mailbox2112@aol.com Fri Dec 15 19:16:34 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: mailbox2112@aol.com (Mailbox 2112)
Date: 16 Dec 2000 03:16:34 GMT

>These days, yes.

Please explain your theory and provide evidence. Thanks.

From akhibs@my-deja.com Sat Dec 16 07:30:54 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: AkHibby <akhibs@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:30:54 GMT

In article <20001215221634.26340.00004816@ng-fu1.aol.com>,
  mailbox2112@aol.com (Mailbox 2112) wrote:
> >These days, yes.
>
> Please explain your theory and provide evidence. Thanks.
>
I wasn't clear, I meant Yes, it's a myth.


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From sugien@my-deja.com Fri Dec 15 21:16:56 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 05:16:56 GMT

In article <91eli9$323$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  AkHibby <akhibs@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>,
>   HLE <henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com> wrote:
> > I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> > damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> >
> > Myth?
> >
> These days, yes.  Come on Sugien, I can't believe you haven't jumped
in
> yet  :)
>
> Ian
>
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From seeking_a_cert@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 06:24:31 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "The Night Stalker" <seeking_a_cert@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:24:31 GMT

<information filed away in the "More than I really wanted to know" file>
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Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:91ets6$8qe$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <91eli9$323$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   AkHibby <akhibs@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>,
> >   HLE <henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com> wrote:
> > > I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> > > damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> > >
> > > Myth?
> > >
> > These days, yes.  Come on Sugien, I can't believe you haven't jumped
> in
> > yet  :)
> >
> > Ian
> >
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>
> It's like beating a dead horse, and I am not up to par tonight, not
> feelin at all well, as a little TMI, my pipes are all backed up only
> went 2 times this month for a BM.
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From jasetaro@sprynet.com Fri Dec 15 20:20:04 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Jeffrey A. Setaro <jasetaro@sprynet.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:20:04 -0500

In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>, 
henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com says...
> I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> 
> Myth?
> 

Yes & no... From a purely technical standpoint no known virus is able 
to physically damage hardware. From a practical standpoint a virus 
like W95/CIH can corrupt the Flash BIOS on some systems in such a way 
that the system is unusable until the Flash BIOS is replaced.

> Thanks,
> 

Your welcome. HTH.

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From Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt Sat Dec 16 08:36:08 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:36:08 +0000

This is not physically damaging the hardware. It's a software erase/write 
of Flash Memory.

Joost
------------
In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>, 
henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com says...
> I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> 
> Myth?
> 

Yes & no... From a purely technical standpoint no known virus is able 
to physically damage hardware. From a practical standpoint a virus 
like W95/CIH can corrupt the Flash BIOS on some systems in such a way 
that the system is unusable until the Flash BIOS is replaced.

> Thanks,
> 

Your welcome. HTH.

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From casio246@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 00:09:13 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "andy" <casio246@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:09:13 -0000

You can't damage graphic card,sound card,etc with a virus. But you can mess
up the bios with a virus
<Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt> wrote in message
news:91g5o8$dtr$1@venus.telepac.pt...
> This is not physically damaging the hardware. It's a software erase/write
> of Flash Memory.
>
> Joost
> ------------
> In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>,
> henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com says...
> > I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> > damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> >
> > Myth?
> >
>
> Yes & no... From a purely technical standpoint no known virus is able
> to physically damage hardware. From a practical standpoint a virus
> like W95/CIH can corrupt the Flash BIOS on some systems in such a way
> that the system is unusable until the Flash BIOS is replaced.
>
> > Thanks,
> >
>
> Your welcome. HTH.
>
> --
> Cheers-
>
> Jeff Setaro
> jasetaro@sprynet.com
> http://home.sprynet.com/~jasetaro/
> PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99
>



From genius1@mindless.com Sat Dec 16 12:44:59 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Sugien <genius1@mindless.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:44:59 GMT

In article <91gi24$578$1@uranium.btinternet.com>,
  "andy" <casio246@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You can't damage graphic card,sound card,etc with a virus. But you
can mess
> up the bios with a virus
<snip>

     What about the newer top of the line video cards which have a
flashable bios? and some even have duel flashable bios?
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From nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 16 15:30:43 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "Nick FitzGerald" <nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:30:43 GMT

Sugien <genius1@mindless.com> wrote:

>      What about the newer top of the line video cards which have a
> flashable bios? and some even have duel flashable bios?

So what?

To in any way damage such hardware a piece of software would have to
exhaust the Flash ROM's reflash life.  These days, that is a very large
number of flash cycles...

And it is debatable whether "just wearing something out" is really what
people take "software can damage hardware" to mean...


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From jasetaro@sprynet.com Sat Dec 16 10:04:29 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Jeffrey A. Setaro <jasetaro@sprynet.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:04:29 -0500

In article <91g5o8$dtr$1@venus.telepac.pt>, 
Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt says...
> This is not physically damaging the hardware. It's a software erase/write 
> of Flash Memory.
> 

I known that... That's why I said "From a practical standpoint a virus 
like W95/CIH can corrupt the Flash BIOS on some systems in such a way 
that the system is unusable until the Flash BIOS is replaced." 

For all practical purposes once the Flash BIOS has been corrupted by 
W95/CIH the hardware is "damaged". Yes the Flash ROM can be 
reprogrammed but that assumes the user has access to a Flash ROM 
burner and the Flash ROM chip(s) can be removed from the MLB... I hate 
to break this to you but there are whole hell of a lot of MLBs out 
there that have the Flash ROM chip(s) soldered in place. Try telling a 
users who has just shelled $100 for new MLB that the old one isn't 
damaged. From a purely technical point of view it isn't from a purely 
practical point of view the suckers toast.


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From sugien@my-deja.com Sat Dec 16 11:07:21 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:07:21 GMT

In article <MPG.14a5776543fd101198a130@nntp.sprynet.com>,
  Jeffrey A. Setaro <jasetaro@sprynet.com> wrote:
> In article <91g5o8$dtr$1@venus.telepac.pt>,
> Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt says...
> > This is not physically damaging the hardware. It's a software
erase/write
> > of Flash Memory.
> >
>
> I known that... That's why I said "From a practical standpoint a
virus
> like W95/CIH can corrupt the Flash BIOS on some systems in such a way
> that the system is unusable until the Flash BIOS is replaced."
>
> For all practical purposes once the Flash BIOS has been corrupted by
> W95/CIH the hardware is "damaged". Yes the Flash ROM can be
> reprogrammed but that assumes the user has access to a Flash ROM
> burner and the Flash ROM chip(s) can be removed from the MLB... I
hate
> to break this to you but there are whole hell of a lot of MLBs out
> there that have the Flash ROM chip(s) soldered in place. Try telling
a
> users who has just shelled $100 for new MLB that the old one isn't
> damaged. From a purely technical point of view it isn't from a purely
> practical point of view the suckers toast.
>
> --
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>
> Jeff Setaro
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>

I agree 100% with this post
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From nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 16 15:33:27 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "Nick FitzGerald" <nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:33:27 GMT

Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com> wrote:

> I agree 100% with this post

So do I, but the point is that technically the hardware is not
damaged.

"Ordinary users" often see things differently (and wrong).  That is
their right.  If you are going to discuss something technical with
a group of technical people though, you should expect to be held to
technical standards.


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From jasetaro@sprynet.com Sat Dec 16 17:15:37 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Jeffrey A. Setaro <jasetaro@sprynet.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:15:37 -0500

In article <01c067b7$ddfe98e0$0500000a@nick>, nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk 
says...

[Snip]

> 
> "Ordinary users" often see things differently (and wrong).  That is
> their right.  If you are going to discuss something technical with
> a group of technical people though, you should expect to be held to
> technical standards.
> 

Absolutely... Unfortunately technical people often forget that 
"ordinary users" perceive the world differently than they do.

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From seeking_a_cert@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 10:04:36 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "The Night Stalker" <seeking_a_cert@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:04:36 GMT

Yes, but until the Flash is done, you dont use the computer.  If the Flash
is done incorrectly, the board can be rendered useless.  Top this off with
the fact that flashing the chip is often more expensive to have done than it
would be to replace the board.

Stalker Steve, MCP


<Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt> wrote in message
news:91g5o8$dtr$1@venus.telepac.pt...
> This is not physically damaging the hardware. It's a software erase/write
> of Flash Memory.
>
> Joost
> ------------
> In article <3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com>,
> henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com says...
> > I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> > damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> >
> > Myth?
> >
>
> Yes & no... From a purely technical standpoint no known virus is able
> to physically damage hardware. From a practical standpoint a virus
> like W95/CIH can corrupt the Flash BIOS on some systems in such a way
> that the system is unusable until the Flash BIOS is replaced.
>
> > Thanks,
> >
>
> Your welcome. HTH.
>
> --
> Cheers-
>
> Jeff Setaro
> jasetaro@sprynet.com
> http://home.sprynet.com/~jasetaro/
> PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99
>



From sugien@my-deja.com Sat Dec 16 11:09:38 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:09:38 GMT

In article <U8O_5.4565$7V2.133740@typhoon.austin.rr.com>,
  "The Night Stalker" <seeking_a_cert@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes, but until the Flash is done, you dont use the computer.  If the
Flash
> is done incorrectly, the board can be rendered useless.  Top this off
with
> the fact that flashing the chip is often more expensive to have done
than it
> would be to replace the board.
>
<snip>

Not to mention the newer top of the line Video cards out there that
have there own flashable bios and some that even have duel bios.
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From nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk Sat Dec 16 15:36:03 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "Nick FitzGerald" <nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:36:03 GMT

Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Not to mention the newer top of the line Video cards out there that
> have there own flashable bios and some that even have duel bios.

This is not that new at all.

The first Flash ROM I know for sure I saw on a video card was on a
very ordinary card three and half years ago.  Further, the board's
design probably pre-dated the purchase date by a good 18 months as
it was far from a "top end" card at the time.


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From genius1@mindless.com Sun Dec 17 00:17:01 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Sugien <genius1@mindless.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:17:01 GMT

In article <01c067b8$3a6ae020$0500000a@nick>,
  "Nick FitzGerald" <nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > Not to mention the newer top of the line Video cards out there that
> > have there own flashable bios and some that even have duel bios.
>
> This is not that new at all.
>
> The first Flash ROM I know for sure I saw on a video card was on a
> very ordinary card three and half years ago.  Further, the board's
> design probably pre-dated the purchase date by a good 18 months as
> it was far from a "top end" card at the time.
>
> --
> Nick FitzGerald
>

Did I say it WAS new? I don't think so, I said on the newer cards which
it is, that doesn't say I was precluding it being on older cards, for
someone whom nitpicks about reading someting into someones post that
wasn't said you sure did, now didn't you.  I said not to mention the
newer cards, and that sure doesn't preclude it also being on older
cards
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From robert.moir@ntlworld.com Sat Dec 16 17:49:27 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "Robert Moir" <robert.moir@ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:49:27 -0000


<Joost_De_Raeymaeker_nospam@rsvp.pt> wrote in message
news:91g5o8$dtr$1@venus.telepac.pt...
> This is not physically damaging the hardware. It's a software erase/write
> of Flash Memory.

Like the man said, technically no hardware damage is done.

As a practical matter, you try explaining to Joe Q. Enduser that his machine
isn't physically damaged but you are going to have to replace their
motherboard because thats the most cost effective way of dealing with the
problem and see if they understand you at the end of it all!

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From kurt_wismer@netzero.net Sat Dec 16 21:50:13 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: kurt wismer <kurt_wismer@netzero.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:50:13 -0600

HLE wrote:
> 
> I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> 
> Myth?

yes, a myth... no known virus has ever damaged hardware...

-- 
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 you invoked a convenient amnesia
 you forgot how to care, you forgot how to provide
 you forgot how to work towards a meaningful life"



From genius1@mindless.com Sun Dec 17 00:22:48 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: Sugien <genius1@mindless.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:22:48 GMT

In article <3A3C5415.BABB4F@netzero.net>,
  kurt wismer <kurt_wismer@netzero.net> wrote:
> HLE wrote:
> >
> > I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> > damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> >
> > Myth?
>
> yes, a myth... no known virus has ever damaged hardware...

  But then again we get into the tiard old argument about physical
damage and damage in as much that to the adverage user if they have to
replace a mother board because of a virus that has trashed there BIOS,
and the bios is soldered in it is just plane cost effective to replace
the mother board rather than desolder and then reflash the chip.  Look
at it like a salamanders(at least I think it is a salamander) tail, you
can cut it off and he will grow another one now would that or would
that not be physical damage? the tail is completley gone so that would
be physical damage; but he will grow another tail so is it physical
damage?
> --
> "while sowing the seeds of utopia
>  you invoked a convenient amnesia
>  you forgot how to care, you forgot how to provide
>  you forgot how to work towards a meaningful life"
>
>

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From akhibs@my-deja.com Sun Dec 17 05:24:33 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: AkHibby <akhibs@my-deja.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:24:33 GMT

In article <3A3C5415.BABB4F@netzero.net>,
  kurt wismer <kurt_wismer@netzero.net> wrote:
> HLE wrote:
> >
> > I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> > damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
> >
> > Myth?
>
> yes, a myth... no known virus has ever damaged hardware...
>
Well done in avoiding the trap I fell into  :)

Ian


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From PaX@SLAM-VT.org.uk Sun Dec 17 12:07:45 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "PaX" <PaX@SLAM-VT.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:07:45 -0000

>>>>>>Well done in avoiding the trap I fell into  :)<<<<

Cant comment on many parts of this but would you all like the code posted
that overvolts an Ath cpu??

so long as you have an asus or chaintech mobo it works pretty well .....

PaX  [SLAM] Virus Team



From philpem@btinternet.com Mon Dec 18 15:13:54 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:13:54 -0000

"PaX" <PaX@SLAM-VT.org.uk> wrote in message news:91j6ck$c25$1@gxsn.com...
> >>>>>>Well done in avoiding the trap I fell into  :)<<<<
>
> Cant comment on many parts of this but would you all like the code posted
> that overvolts an Ath cpu??
>
> so long as you have an asus or chaintech mobo it works pretty well .....
Ouch... Nasty...

Virus: "MUHAHAHA"
Athlon CPU: sizzle... sizzle...
PC: <squeal>
<PC begins to smoke>
(l)user: "YEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGGHH!!!!!"


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From paul@there.com Mon Dec 18 08:29:11 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "paul" <paul@there.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:29:11 -0000


"HLE" <henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com> wrote in message
news:3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com...
> I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
>
Er guys, before you go spinning right off the planet, the original poster
was asking only about MECHANICAL damage.



From philpem@btinternet.com Mon Dec 18 15:09:10 2000
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Can a virus damage hardware?
From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:09:10 -0000

"HLE" <henry@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com> wrote in message
news:3A3ACC11.2819F1D0@progenysysteOBVIOUSms.com...
> I've seen stories about viruses that can actually cause mechanical
> damage to a computer's hardware -- presumably the hard disk.
The old Commodore floppy drives could be told to seek to the end of the
mechanical mountings due to the lack of a track 0 switch. Basically, the
head hit the spindle and got whacked out of alignment. Ouch.

> Myth?
These days, yes.

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Phil.
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