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From sugien@my-deja.com Fri Dec 15 12:02:05 2000 Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus Subject: Warning for the future and part of a possible solution From: Sugien <sugien@my-deja.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:02:05 GMT with the advent of the NAVIDAD.EXE (or Feliz Navidad, Spanish for Merry Christmas) is a new worm, with a new twist: If you send an e-mail to someone whose computer is infected, it is designed to send you an automatic reply, with a file called navidad.exe attached. Clicking on that file will infect your PC, and it will spread after that by getting addresses from your unread e-mails and sending itself out to people who write to you. Navidad shouldn't get far because it has a major design flaw, but it has been reported "in the wild." Since it modifies the Registry incorrectly, it should simply cause an infected computer to stop functioning, and even prevent Navidad from functioning, if you restart Windows, and guess what that is the GOOD news and now for the bad news. I have just finished looking at a poc (doesn't work properly at this time thank GOD!!)that takes this a step further. It sits and not only does as above; but will also check all incoming email and if it finds and email that contains it's name it will send out one of many replies it has as part of it's programming, that says "Yes I sent you out the file NAVIDAD.EXE it is completely harmless and I just thought you might enjoy it. If however you are AFRAID!! to open it, just delete it; but you will be missing out on one of the funniest things I have seen in ages" NAVIDAD.EXE is used in the above statements about the poc I have been checking out just as an example and is NOT part of the poc I am currently looking at. The concept behind this IMHO is very insidious and will most likely infect a number of people that up to this point have been lulled into a false sense of safety by practicing safe HEX. I am posting this as a heads up so that you can be aware of what is out there and might be in the wild; because the author whom sent me the poc is very close(from what I can tell checking out the source code) to getting this to work. If he gets this to work flawlessly and releases it ITW(in the wild) which he tells me has been his intention since conception till the present time, it will most probably be VERY BAD!! I have been trying to convince the author NOT do release it upon completion, but up to this time have been unsuccessful. He only recently said I could even tell anyone. I know some will say I shouldn't care what he wants and that I should always put out a warning; BUT! if I were to do that it would not take long at all before NO ONE would send me any POC's at all; because they would (and rightly so) say I couldn't be trusted with there POC's. I have been telling him that he should send it to the AV makers and that if what he was wanting was recognition, that would garner him some small modicum of fame. I think what might slow down the release ITW of new virus would be some type of online recognition at the major online EZines and AV software web sites. Maybe some type of monthly award to the most significant NEW algorithm for virus and another for most insidious and another for best new concept, well you get the idea. Some will say this would only encourage new virus writers to start making them; but I think it would curtail the releasing of some if not a bunch of the newer ones. This however would be hard to implement unless you could get some of the major players to agree to it. This is sort of along the lines of my virus Olympics I have suggested here and else where; because there would have to be some sort of SAFE place and people in charge of testing to decide which ones would get published each month (or week depending the number of submissions). This would have to be a REAL DEAL Recognition at like maybe CNN,MSNBC,PC World and ZDNet and the likes; because these guys are nobody's fool and would know if it was some half hearted attempt to placate them into not releasing there code. Maybe even put the weekly and or monthly winners into a pool to win some type of prize at the end of the year. btw: Before you go thinking this is some type of vaporware; just remember all the warnings about getting a virus from just looking at either a web page or an email in OE that has the preview pane enabled, and how it was called the same and then think of kak,bubble boy and Melissa and the likes <flame resistant underwear enabled:o)> -- /} http://www.zoomnet.net/~quick @###{ ]::::::Dino-Soft Software::::::> \} Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/