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PRIVACY Forum Digest     Tuesday, 21 December 1999     Volume 08 : Issue 21


            Moderated by Lauren Weinstein (lauren@vortex.com)         
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	BULLETIN: Public Key Competition on the Web Goes POOF?
	   (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)

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Date:    Tue, 21 Dec 99 10:17 PST
From:    lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)
Subject: BULLETIN: Public Key Competition on the Web Goes POOF?

Greetings.  Various pundits have been declaring that the time had come for
widespread adoption of public key systems for the encryption and
verification of all manner of documents and transactions in both private and
public venues.  Now comes the startling announcement that effective
competition in the critical "Certification Authority" business, crucial to
the operation of the Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) on the Web as it's now
structured, may apparently vanish, at least as far as most Web server
operators and browser users are concerned.  

This further complicates a situation which already had been raising eyebrows
in many quarters.  While it can be argued that digital certificates are not
the only mechanism suitable for providing PKI services, and that they are in
respects inadequate (see http://www.csl.sri.com/neumann/insiderisks.html for
new "CACM" articles expressing these views), the bottom line is that for the
foreseeable future you need these certificates for most PKI on the Web.

The announcement that VeriSign, Inc. (http://www.verisign.com), the largest
provider of digital certificates for PKI operations, is purchasing the
second largest provider, Thawte, Inc. (http://www.thawte.com), for stock
worth more than half a billion dollars, will mean that in the Web world,
VeriSign will control virtually the entire PKI certification business.
Since Thawte generally undercut VeriSign in terms of pricing, it's hard to
view this transaction as other than an apparent effort by VeriSign to close
down the competition.

While both companies in their press releases and announcements have stressed
the "benefits to consumers" that would result from this consolidation, it's
hard to find other examples of cases where consumers were advantaged by two
companies, each with approximately 50% market share, combining to form one
company with virtually a 100% share.  Such a state of affairs would be
intolerable in most important business sectors.

As I mentioned above, there had already been questions raised about the
state of affairs regarding such certification authorities.  Most Web users'
main contact with PKI is through the "SSL" system that is usually used to
encrypt financial transactions and purchases over the Web.  An awful lot
goes on to make that little lock icon close on your screen, and key to this
process are the "digital certificates" issued by companies such as VeriSign
and Thawte.  These certificates allow the entire public key encryption
system to operate. 

In theory, any Web user could accept a certificate from any source, and
there are many firms and even individuals that do issue such certificates.
However, the process of accepting and installing these certificates can be
confusing and a bit scary to many users, so in practice the vast majority of
transactions take place using the pre-installed certificates in the common
Web browsers.  And of the various firms that are pre-installed, only
VeriSign (whose certificates read as "RSA Data Security") and Thawte have any
significant working market share, so the entire universe of Web
server/browser certificates is basically split between them.  Interestingly,
Thawte may become the leading browser certificate authority on 1 Jan 2000,
when some browsers with VeriSign certificates will face "root" certificate
expiration, which will no doubt be incorrectly viewed by many users as a Y2K

Lack of real competition in this segment of the PKI market is bad news for
businesses, governments, and consumers.  To many observers, even before this
announcement, it was already unclear why this market in the Web world was so
tiny, and why the pricing for digital certificates, which buyers are usually
forced to renew annually, are priced at such relatively high levels. 

For users to have confidence in public key systems, which are now being
heavily promoted by commercial firms and governmental entities, it's
absolutely necessary that *viable* competition exists in this area.  The
questions concerning the current state of affairs that brought us to this
juncture need to be answered with all due haste.

Lauren Weinstein
Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com
Co-Founder, PFIR: People for Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy


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