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Access to PRIVACY Forum materials is also available through the Internet World Wide Web (WWW) via the Vortex Technology WWW server at the URL: "<A HREF="http://www.vortex.com">http://www.vortex.com</A>"; full keyword searching of all PRIVACY Forum files is available via WWW access. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- VOLUME 09, ISSUE 14 Quote for the day: "I never explain anything." -- Mary Poppins (Julie Andrews) "Mary Poppins" (Disney; 1964) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:17 PDT From: <A HREF="mailto:lauren@vortex.com">lauren@vortex.com</A> (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator) Subject: Corporations Risk All Via Insecure Online Voting? Greetings. This is going to be one of those unfortunate "so sad it's almost funny" cases. Hold on to your beanies. In a recent "People For Internet Responsibility" statement relating to Internet Voting (<A HREF="http://www.pfir.org/statements/2000-02-26">http://www.pfir.org/statements/2000-02-26</A>), I pointed out a large number of difficult problems relating to voting over the Internet/World Wide Web. While that document mainly was discussing online voting in the traditional sense of political elections (which is in its infancy), there are other aspects of online voting which have taken off bigtime over the last couple of years. One of these is voting of corporate stock (proxy voting) via the Web. Now, even if many people don't seem to care who is elected to any given office, one would think they'd at least care about their money. And it's reasonable to assume that corporations would wish to at least pay lip service to the idea that the votes of their stockholders are meaningful in some way. So it's ironic that a major firm involved in hosting such proxy votes over the Web, American Stock Transfer & Trust Company, located on Wall Street in New York City, would operate a proxy voting Web site most charitably described as laughable (<A HREF="http://www.voteproxy.com">http://www.voteproxy.com</A>). My attention was originally attracted to this situation by James Hughes (who gave his permission for his name to be used in this report) who had wanted to vote his shares of Storage Technology Corp. When he went to the designated voteproxy site mentioned above, he was quite surprised at what he found. My investigation confirmed his concerns. First off, the site isn't even accessible without javascript being enabled--an increasing security concern, especially in the light of newly announced javascript security bugs in major Web browsers. Any attempt to access the site without javascript yields the infamous blank page. (I'm planning a special report on the widespread nature of this problem and its implications, for both commercial and government Web sites, in the very near future.) All right, you reluctantly turn on javascript, and what did you get from voteproxy.com? You saw a page telling you that you could vote your stock "SECURELY" (bold, uppercase) and a slot to enter your 11 digit "control number" for your stock. No links to additional information, help, or contacts were apparent. Oh--about the use of the term "SECURELY" on that page. It was completely false. The page (and all subsequent pages) were completely in the clear and did not use Secure Sockets Layer (SSL). Nor was any SSL server even apparently running at the site. So it would be relatively trivial for a nefarious individual with the proper resources to gather up these voting control numbers as they streamed by. But it gets worse! When the control number is voted, the voter has the option of entering an e-mail address to receive a confirmation. So far, so good. But what happens if you decide to vote the same control a second time (or if someone who had surreptitiously obtained such numbers from the unencrypted Web transmissions tried such a vote?) Answer: Apparently the new vote replaces the old one. Sometimes such a duplicate vote would yield a message informing you that your new vote had replaced the old one. Other times the vote would just be accepted without any warning at all. And (as you have probably guessed by now) no attempt is made to notify the <B>original</B> voter that their vote has been replaced. I ultimately had a chat with the person in charge of the voteproxy Web site, by going through their domain registration phone number. Her initial response was that their ISP handling the system had assured them that it was operating properly, and she claimed that their voting system was more secure than using the U.S. mail. When I pointed out what I perceived to be the inaccuracies of her statement, she changed her tone somewhat, launching into a diatribe against their ISP. "We wanted to switch to SSL but our ISP ignores us." "Our ISP won't call us back." "We plan to switch to another ISP but we're waiting until July after the busy proxy voting season." "Can you recommend a good ISP?" And so on. Definitely one of those moments to make me suspect that I'm living in a Fellini movie. Obviously, there is a great deal to be concerned about regarding that site, and the proxy votes cast through it. With so many other aspects of the site in disarray, it would be natural to also be concerned about the accuracy of the vote counting itself. But they did make one immediate change in reaction to my call! They've removed the text from their site that had claimed the voting was secure! "Cut! Print." --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein <A HREF="mailto:lauren@pfir.org">lauren@pfir.org</A> or <A HREF="mailto:lauren@vortex.com">lauren@vortex.com</A> Co-Founder, PFIR: People for Internet Responsibility - <A HREF="http://www.pfir.org">http://www.pfir.org</A> Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - <A HREF="http://www.vortex.com">http://www.vortex.com</A> Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:25 PDT From: <A HREF="mailto:lauren@vortex.com">lauren@vortex.com</A> (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator) Subject: First Web Tracking, then TELEPHONE Tracking? Greetings. The following text may be of interest: "As your local telephone company, we're always interested in offering you services that will enhance your communications is new and exciting ways. That's why we're offering you a new innovation in calling, our "Getting to Know You" program! You'll receive either free basic monthly telephone service, or a substantial discount on your phone service, for being a member of this fantastic program, which has been developed in response to the rapid pace of innovations on the World Wide Web. By joining this landmark service, you'll be giving us permission to keep track (for commercial purposes) of the phone numbers and names, business types, etc. of all parties that you call, and to listen in on your calls to find out what topics most interest you. You can trust us! We'll keep track of all this information using our (patent-pending) "Digital-Shadow" anonymous ID system, and we'll only use your dialing and conversation information to target you with advertising for special offers we know you'll appreciate! Our studies have shown that people simply often don't tell the truth when asked what products they're interested in--"Getting to Know You" bypasses that problem and delivers better value to our loyal advertisers and business partners. You can read our privacy policy which describes all of the details. (Please note that the privacy policy and the manner in which we handle, sell, distribute, combine, or otherwise use the information we gather about you is subject to change at any time.) We think you'll find that "Getting to Know You" will change the way that you think about your telephone! Sign up now! (Offer void where prohibited by law.)" OK, it should be obvious by now that the above is a completely fictional scenario--for the moment, anyway. Under current law, this scheme would likely face numerous legal problems. It seems unlikely to occur in the near future, I hope! I suspect that if such a plan were announced that there'd probably be some takers (after all, there's <B>someone</B> to go along with just about anything). But it seems reasonable to assume that the overall reaction to this plan would be indignation and shock. Most people would consider it a major violation of privacy, even if "only" the dialed phone numbers were being used for this purpose and no actual call content monitoring were involved. The claim that the system did its tracking through "anonymous" profiles would be unlikely to calm many concerns--polls have shown that most people are increasingly distrustful of the claims firms make about the handling of personal information. Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are to the Internet and Web what telephone companies are to phone service. In fact, we'll see a merging of all of these facets over time--it's already begun. The Web addresses (URLs) that we enter to access Web sites are not only analogous to telephone numbers, but through their inclusion of keywords and their accessing of specific content on sites, are also not unlike the <B>content</B> of telephone calls in many respects. I do not see a great deal of difference between the growing practices of tracking on the Web and the fictional scenario above, other than the fact that such tracking and the potential for widespread information abuse is legal with the Web. As the Web becomes an increasingly primary communications vehicle in people's lives, many Web firms' apparent unwillingness to "play by the rules" of the rest of society in the non-cyberspace world is increasingly untenable and unacceptable. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein <A HREF="mailto:lauren@pfir.org">lauren@pfir.org</A> or <A HREF="mailto:lauren@vortex.com">lauren@vortex.com</A> Co-Founder, PFIR: People for Internet Responsibility - <A HREF="http://www.pfir.org">http://www.pfir.org</A> Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - <A HREF="http://www.vortex.com">http://www.vortex.com</A> Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:43:28 -0400 From: Sol Bermann <<A HREF="mailto:bermann@osc.edu">bermann@osc.edu</A>> Subject: Privacy2000 Conference Privacy is a critical national issue for both the private and public sectors. In order to ensure the broadest possible participation by speakers and attendees, the Technology Policy Group's Privacy2000 conference will now take place Tuesday, Oct. 31-Wednesday Nov. 1, 2000. Please adjust your calendars accordingly. Below are some specifics for Privacy2000: Title: Privacy2000: Information, Security & Ethics in the Digital Age Date: Tuesday, Oct. 31-Wednesday, Nov. 1, 2000 Location: Columbus, Ohio URL: <A HREF="http://www.privacy2000.org/">www.privacy2000.org</A> For information on the program and registration, please visit our website at: <A HREF="http://www.privacy2000.org/">www.privacy2000.org</A> Or contact: Sol Bermann Legal Project Manager Technology Policy Group The Ohio Supercomputer Center 1224 Kinnear Road Columbus, OH 43212-1163 614-688-4578 614-292-1992 (Fax) <A HREF="mailto:bermann@osc.edu">bermann@osc.edu</A> <A HREF="http://www.privacy2000.org/">www.privacy2000.org</A> ------------------------------ End of PRIVACY Forum Digest 09.14 ************************ </PRE> <hr> <center> <A href="/privacy"><h3>PRIVACY Forum Home Page</h3></A><p> <A href="http://www.vortex.com"><h4><i>Vortex Technology Home Page</i></h4></A><p> <A href="/privmedia"><h4>Radio, Television, and Press Contact Information</h4></A><p> </center> <p> <font size=-2>Copyright © 2001 Vortex Technology. 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