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******************************************************* * PHILE 2: THE CHANGING PIRATE WORLD * ******************************************************* There've been some complaints this summer about the changes in pirate boards. The following was snatched and sent to us from one of the best boards in the country. We've been complaining about lamerz for a long while, and it seems they are taking over. We've shared this with some other sysops, and they pretty much agree that kids, which is a state of mind, not an age, have pretty much moved in to tie up lines. Seems there's not a lot of ideas on what to do about upgrading the quality of losers, so we thought we'd toss this out for some discussion. * * * S1: I'm almost ready to quit. Things have not been that great with us and the competition is doing pretty good. Lost a lot of good users. Now all I ever get are losers or leeches. Getting kinda fed up I guess. . . . Well I and a few of the other sysops I know have, it's all going to the kiddies now, we have seen at least 30-35 new local pirate boards and about 100 or so new pirate boards nationally spring up within the last few months, and they are all pretty much 15 and 16 year olds who run things pretty shabby in our minds. They have hurt many boards including us for competition of callers. You will start to see many old timers like us go by the wayside for awhile while they clean up, then maybe later on, we might all come back like we did a few years ago when the smoke clears. S2: Yeh, the number of "kiddie Klubs" grows as the ease of getting modem/pc gets more popular, but those I've hit have been so fuckin' lame!!! Mostly the games, which is fine, but the way that other stuff, what little there is, is uploaded--like, just collapsing a hugh file into a single data set and uploading. God! S1: Get used to it, thats what you will find on most of them from now on, as we old guys start to fold our tents up. Many of my friends have been saying that when mine and 1 or 2 other boards they call go, that might be the end of their calling days for business stuff. S2: Yeh, it gets depressing to call some board, struggle for the access and find there's nothing there. Damn. From the guys I've talked to, they also bitch about the time, the new stuff coming out and how hard it is to keep on top of it all....but these guys are the "neurotic collectors, " and not much into using it. S1: Thats right, and they usually don't support you after they get what they are looking for. Thats what has hurt us. We had some great guys for awhile that kept supporting us until they got all the stuff they wanted, then they said adios. Plus the pcp cap has hurt... S2: Isn't there a law against lamerz, or has that been protected by the constitution? I haven't pulled down anything good since school let out in the spring and my original disk sources moved home for the summer. S1: Yep, most of these new pirate boards are guys back from Illinois U that ran campus boards, so they all started up for the summer and have been murdering the good boards with their instant access and easy files deals. They have been having giant leech parties and all. If I go down, it would be for quite awhile I guess, maybe a year or so, depends on how things are I guess. I really hate to, but things are so slow, I just can't see wasting the electricity when it goes unused all day. S1: Well, maybe come the fall, it'll pick up, 'because it does seem to be slow all over on nat'l boards....but you're right about the kids going home and opening up boards---at least a half-dozen from our school did, but these were guys who leeched from boards here, and my guess is will try to leech some more when they get home...take the money and run type thing... interests me, they usally just tell me how great they are and that whoever they mention can vouch for them even though they mention they aren't into files or calling BBS's that much. So you can see why I'm a bit hesitant in granting them access, besides they never read what I put up for new user access either, so they waste both of our time. Now I just usually give access to users here I have talked to about a guy who applies first before I go any farther. Thats how I can tell that they are either kids or losers since they don't know the ropes, it always glares out of what they type when I read these things, comes from years of experience sifting thru all this BS. When I find one that looks like a winner, it's like a needle in a haystack, happens only once in a long while or wait. Yes and it pisses me off very much. As soon as I reopened membership about 6 months ago after 2 great years of none of that BS, all of a sudden I'm getting losers constantly tying up my line each day recalling for access and it has been irritating me a lot. Thats why the number has to be changed at my expense. Would go would it be, they'd just tie up the line from guys who were willing to upload instead of download, everyone who is willing to pay, is new and has nothing, or isn't on any good boards. No this is like CB's. You can get away with anything as long as your parents don't know about it and you are anonymous from the law. I'm afraid it's a plague that will haunt BBS's for awhile unless enough of them start setting up guidelines like I tried to do, and not give them access, but as you can see, it doesn't work, when most of the boards are kids anyways. Yeh. Well, maybe they'll grow up, except there always seems to be more where they came from (grin)....well, it's maybe time to get all the sysops of good boards together in a union or something. We have tried many times. It's a lost because. Bummer. Can't think of any cheery words of wisdom....just hang in there and hope they all get run over by drunken white sox fans, or something. They are drunken white sox fans. Yeh well we will hang around at least a couple more weeks, then who knows. OK---but if you go down, you'll be missed. You just don't know it. S1: Well maybe and maybe not, I know there are better boards around, but if they are getting half of what we aren't then maybe they will fade also. I hope not. Like the Joni Mitchell song..."ya don't know what ya have til it's gone." Well , Tell it to the losers. right? S2: God, how far we've come in tek in just a few years. That's impressive. Well, one thing the kids don't have going for them is high tech and perseverance. * * * Old timers have seen a lot of changes in the pirate world in the last two years. Let us know your gripes and opinion. >--------=====END=====--------<